DePaul plays great for 30 minutes and abysmal for 10. Seton Hall plays terrible for 30 minutes and good fir 10 minutes. So, they end up pretty close..
As I see it Feb 10
- Thread starter Halldan1
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Week 12
1. SJU 17-3 8-1
Neck and neck with
2. Marquette 13-3 8-1
Clear top two teams in the conference
3. Creighton 14-6 7-2
Maybe Hurley isn't even the best #$%@%&$ coach in the Big East
4. UConn 14-6 6-3
Waiting on McNeeley
5. Xavier 13-8 5-5
Dangerous team
6. Georgetown 13-6 4-5
Youth showing
7. Nova 12-9 5-5
Loss at home to Georgetown has them trailing Hoysa
8. Providence 10-10 4-5
SHU's next victim?
9. Butler 9-11 2-7
2 wins vs home to SHU and DePaul
11. DePaul 10-11 1-9
Thank God for the Sha's
12. Seton Hall 6-14 1-8
Beginning of a 4 game win streak Tuesday 😂
1. SJU 17-3 8-1
Neck and neck with
2. Marquette 13-3 8-1
Clear top two teams in the conference
3. Creighton 14-6 7-2
Maybe Hurley isn't even the best #$%@%&$ coach in the Big East
4. UConn 14-6 6-3
Waiting on McNeeley
5. Xavier 13-8 5-5
Dangerous team
6. Georgetown 13-6 4-5
Youth showing
7. Nova 12-9 5-5
Loss at home to Georgetown has them trailing Hoysa
8. Providence 10-10 4-5
SHU's next victim?
9. Butler 9-11 2-7
2 wins vs home to SHU and DePaul
11. DePaul 10-11 1-9
Thank God for the Sha's
12. Seton Hall 6-14 1-8
Beginning of a 4 game win streak Tuesday 😂
It could be 4 game win streak or 4 game lose streak. Since we don't know who is actually healthy enough to play these days we might be lucky to even have 5 healthy kids to to get on the court.
With all due respect, he isn't the best #$%@%&$ basketball coach on his own campus.
Week 13
1. SJU 197-3 10-1
Still # 1 but the schedule will soon ramp up
2. Marquette 18-4 9-2
Not a good look home to UConn
3. Creighton 16-6 9-2
7 Ws in a row has them slightly ahead of UConn
4. UConn 16-6 8-3
Poor outing at home against DePaul. Great one against Marquette
5. Xavier 13-9 5-6
Best of the rest
6. Georgetown 14-8 5-6
Flip a coin with the rest of the 5-6 teams
7. Nova 12-10 5-6
3 Ls in a row
8. Providence 11-11 5-6
Win one by 2, lose one by two
9. Butler 9-13 2-9
Played reasonably well last week, albeit 2 losses
11. DePaul 11-12 2-10
No longer the least of the Big East
12. Seton Hall 6-16 1-10
Will get the #1 draft choice next year. LOL
1. SJU 197-3 10-1
Still # 1 but the schedule will soon ramp up
2. Marquette 18-4 9-2
Not a good look home to UConn
3. Creighton 16-6 9-2
7 Ws in a row has them slightly ahead of UConn
4. UConn 16-6 8-3
Poor outing at home against DePaul. Great one against Marquette
5. Xavier 13-9 5-6
Best of the rest
6. Georgetown 14-8 5-6
Flip a coin with the rest of the 5-6 teams
7. Nova 12-10 5-6
3 Ls in a row
8. Providence 11-11 5-6
Win one by 2, lose one by two
9. Butler 9-13 2-9
Played reasonably well last week, albeit 2 losses
11. DePaul 11-12 2-10
No longer the least of the Big East
12. Seton Hall 6-16 1-10
Will get the #1 draft choice next year. LOL
Week 14
1. SJU 21-3 12-1
No more complaints about the schedule
2. Creighton 18-6 11-2
This week will tell us a lot
3. UConn 16-7 8-4
Only because Marquette has lost 3 straight
4. Marquette 18-6 9-4
Playing the worse ball of the season
5. Nova 14-10 7-6
SJU at home will give us a clue
6. Xavier 14-10 6-7
Best of the rest
7. Georgetown 15-9 6-7
Cooled off quite a bit
8. Providence 11-13 5-8
3 L's in a row
9. Butler 11-13 4-9
Better than their record
11. DePaul 11-13 2-11
One win in last five. Guess vs who?
12. Seton Hall 6-18 1-12
Injuries hurt but this was already a disaster
1. SJU 21-3 12-1
No more complaints about the schedule
2. Creighton 18-6 11-2
This week will tell us a lot
3. UConn 16-7 8-4
Only because Marquette has lost 3 straight
4. Marquette 18-6 9-4
Playing the worse ball of the season
5. Nova 14-10 7-6
SJU at home will give us a clue
6. Xavier 14-10 6-7
Best of the rest
7. Georgetown 15-9 6-7
Cooled off quite a bit
8. Providence 11-13 5-8
3 L's in a row
9. Butler 11-13 4-9
Better than their record
11. DePaul 11-13 2-11
One win in last five. Guess vs who?
12. Seton Hall 6-18 1-12
Injuries hurt but this was already a disaster
We do not belong in a grouping with any other BE teams.
1. St. John's
2. Creighton
3. UConn
4. Marquette
5. Villanova
6. Xavier
7. Georgetown
8. Butler
9. Providence
10. Depaul
11. Seton Hall
1. St. John's
2. Creighton
3. UConn
4. Marquette
5. Villanova
6. Xavier
7. Georgetown
8. Butler
9. Providence
10. Depaul
11. Seton Hall
1. UConn (projecting a healthy McNeeley back in the fold going forward)
2. SJU
3. Creighton
4. Marquette
5. Nova
6. Xavier
7. Gtown
8. Prov
9. Butler
10. Depaul
11. Hall (if DAW, Jenkins and SM are all back)
Because of the 3 injuries I gave us the benefit of the doubt. With those 3, we are competitive with the other 3 bottom dwellers.
Agree with the above. And I'd say it closely aligns with what I'd say are the Player Salary Tiers.
Visible leaders - Keep their best players and attract the best
UConn
St. John's
The Haves - Keep their best players and attract BE talent
Creighton
Marquette
Xavier
Villanova
Georgetown
Providence
The Have Nots - Not enough to compete in the BE but puncher's chance
Butler
DePaul
Don't Have Enough and Have Not been good at spending what they have
Seton Hall
I put Creighton and Marquette right up there with Uconn and SJU.
Both Creighton and Marquette keep their best players and can/do attract BE talented players (Marquette has it seems deliberately chosen to stay away from the portal).
When it comes to keeping their best and attracting BE talent, even top tier talent, I think Nova, Xavier and Gtown are right there too. Look at Nova's past 2 offseasons. Or Gtown.
Even Providence hasn't lost anyone it seems they want from the portal. Cooley wasn't able to lure Hopkins, as an example. Nor other schools, even though Kim English had that Twitter rant over the summer where he was suggesting that other teams were openly trying to steal Hopkins from him (I thought it was Gtown, but other internet sleuths were speculating it was Depaul/Holtman).
Yeah Creighton & Marquette are right there - could put them in Tier 1. I'd say all 8 teams in the first 2 tiers have the money to compete at the top of the conference and at least an NCAA bid. Then it becomes, who uses it best, who can spend extra when they need to and which coaches develop and get the most of their teams.
Then there are the 3 bottom teams who don't have the tools to compete and would need to find underrated players, avoid injuries and have a tremendous coaching job just to finish in the middle of the conference.
We need to get in that second tier with Providence, Xavier, Gtown & Nova.
