Barbara Buono
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ugh...so that happened.
I'm curious if those of you voted for Christie are in favor of, or will be annoyed, when he focuses on running for president in 2015 and beyond. And what about if he actually wins and quits being governor?
I'm curious if those of you voted for Christie are in favor of, or will be annoyed, when he focuses on running for president in 2015 and beyond. And what about if he actually wins and quits being governor?
Not a factor. I think everyone already assumes that he will run for at least the GOP nomination. If he were to be elected Kim G would be Governor for only one year before she had to seek re-election.
By the way exit polls last night showed that even with his big win in the Governors election he would be 7% behind Hillary in NJ if they were running for President last night.
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Christie for three is infinitely better than having Buono for four; in fact having Guadigano for four would be better than Buono for four.
I figured a 20 pt. victory and looks like it'll be larger than that with Christie taking 60% of the vote. Thought it was interesting that the only two counties that carried Buono were Hudson and Essex...
Too early to tell because a lot depends on the shape of the country before 2016 election as we saw back in 2008. Christie vs. Hillary would surely be colorful after having two lame talking heads in the last Presidential election.
I figured a 20 pt. victory and looks like it'll be larger than that with Christie taking 60% of the vote. Thought it was interesting that the only two counties that carried Buono were Hudson and Essex...
Too early to tell because a lot depends on the shape of the country before 2016 election as we saw back in 2008. Christie vs. Hillary would surely be colorful after having two lame talking heads in the last Presidential election.
"Ugh, so that happened." Duh. Honestly, who the hell knew anything about Buono? Cops, teachers, and leftists who can't bring themselves to vote for anyone who is the least bit conservative voted for her, or rather against Christie.
Christie is certainly more bipartisan than most, he speaks plainly, and has the aura of an "everyman." Christie versus Hillary should be entertaining and interesting, but it will come down to mud-slinging: he will get beat up on the social issues: LGBT, abortion, being a Catholic in general. Slick Willie and Obama's tireless stumping will be hard to beat, Christie is up against the machine for sure.
Christie is certainly more bipartisan than most, he speaks plainly, and has the aura of an "everyman." Christie versus Hillary should be entertaining and interesting, but it will come down to mud-slinging: he will get beat up on the social issues: LGBT, abortion, being a Catholic in general. Slick Willie and Obama's tireless stumping will be hard to beat, Christie is up against the machine for sure.
Damn right! haha. I voted Green Party though, couldn't get behind Buono, or most Dems in general these days, and she had no shot of winning as everyone thought.
Hillary's health/age seems like the only thing to prevent her from running in 2016. If she runs, I'd imagine she is a shoe-in for the nomination. Cuomo I guess is the next option for Democrats? I LOVE the idea of Elizabeth Warren running, but unless people start to realize how far right the whole conversation has shifted over the past 13 years and aren't happy about it, I don't think a true progressive who isn't a slave to Big Money has a shot. So as usual it will most likely be two corporatists who are a few shades of grey apart except on social issues.
I wonder if any other Republican candidates will emerge and gain traction that are rational people like Christie? Right now the only people sticking their feet in the water would get destroyed in a nat'l election.
FWIW, I was meeting with the Pres/CEO of a company today that lives in Chappaqua and very much into NY politics due to the nature of his business. He knows the Cuomo's pretty well and said Mario was smart and arrogant and in his view Andrew had only one of those traits....guess which one...lol. Also said Andrew is interested in running in 2016 but will immediately defer to Hillary and drop out if she runs.
pretty embarrassing stuff for the big tough guy today. No smoking gun that ties him to knowing exactly what went down, but it'skinda hard to believe he had no idea what his own chief of staff & his HS buddy were doing. You could certainly make the argument that the chief of staff & others purposefully did keep him in the dark in case it got out (which would be smart), but if they were smart enough to do that, then why wouldnt they realize to NOT leave such an obvious paper trail for this kind of thing? Couldn't this scumbag move be set in motion through phone calls & in-person meetings only?
Def. hurts the false image that portrays him as different that the typical politician, but I doubt it will hurt him much with the presidential run. I think the bottom line is that the whole thing (the bitterness/anger that this mayor wouldnt back him is true whether or not Christie knew about the traffic lane retribution) just cements that he's kind of an asshole. Some people like that about him, others are turned off.
Also glad my new mayor (Fulop of JC) didn't cave to him. Seems like a good guy so far, and has been working hard & is very communicative with the residents.
Def. hurts the false image that portrays him as different that the typical politician, but I doubt it will hurt him much with the presidential run. I think the bottom line is that the whole thing (the bitterness/anger that this mayor wouldnt back him is true whether or not Christie knew about the traffic lane retribution) just cements that he's kind of an asshole. Some people like that about him, others are turned off.
Also glad my new mayor (Fulop of JC) didn't cave to him. Seems like a good guy so far, and has been working hard & is very communicative with the residents.
We may never get any more details about what Christie knew, but he is either someone who has no control over his staff or a complete @ss.
Either way it hurts his chances at a run for President as this will be a distraction for him in a primary as he is selling himself to a bunch of red states that don't really like the NJ attitude.
Either way it hurts his chances at a run for President as this will be a distraction for him in a primary as he is selling himself to a bunch of red states that don't really like the NJ attitude.
No doubt damaging in so many ways and petty too. This is what happens all across politics though - don't be fooled. They just got caught. I've heard a few doozy's about our current President from an insider that would make your skin crawl. Bottom line is these folks should not abuse their power. Real people get effected and their positions seem to go to their heads instead of focusing on the real work in front of them. Getting reelected is high on any politicians mind and this shows how stupid that is. Just get the job done and that usually is enough to get reelected instead of stooping low like this.
We have learned that politicians from both parties do stupid and childish things, so although we'll never know, I wouldn't be surprised if Christie had at least some knowledge of it.
The real dopes are the ones who actually were stupid enough to exchange the emails. In this day and age of emails, texts, pics, etc., coming back to haunt you, what person with half a brain would send those messages. Dumb, dumb, dumb!!! They deserve to be fired.
Buono should actually call Christie and thank him for making her relevent for a day.
This post was edited on 1/9 1:19 PM by HALL85
The real dopes are the ones who actually were stupid enough to exchange the emails. In this day and age of emails, texts, pics, etc., coming back to haunt you, what person with half a brain would send those messages. Dumb, dumb, dumb!!! They deserve to be fired.
Buono should actually call Christie and thank him for making her relevent for a day.
This post was edited on 1/9 1:19 PM by HALL85
Hmm, how come this same logic doesn't apply to the president or Hilary Clinton? Notice the duplicity here and in the media?
Whoever did this though should be fired, reprimanded, etc. as this was a horrible thing to do. Same should apply to the president and Hilary as well.
It really depends on what happens from here in my opinion. I don't think he is done at all. But if they find out he knew about this he is done in so many ways. Should be interesting. I don't really trust any politician.
He is not done... yet. It really depends who he is running against in the primaries and if they are effective on the campaign trail.
He was already perceived as a bully in NJ and I really don't think this will play well at all outside of NJ... but then again, if he is up against Cain, Bachman, Santorum, Perry et al... he can pretty much admit to shutting down Fort Lee and say he wants to do it again and he would win the nomination easily.
If he is up against people like Mitch Daniels, Rubio, Jeb Bush and Portman... this will hurt his chances.
With that said...It doesn't really matter. Christie would not beat Hilary if she runs.
what are you referring to? Benghazi? I didn't follow that much, and I'm a bit wary of any conspiracy stuff getting pushed that hard by Fox News. I'm no fan of either Obama or Hillary though.
Outstanding, just outstanding! And coming from the rocker that Christie idolizes. Couldn't be better. Better than The Daily Show.
Yup, much more talented and Leno isn't going to get him tossed like he did to Conan because he does't want to sit home anymore.
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