Good showing . Seeds aren’t great ofc, but getting back to 5/11 programs in is good after last year’s circus.
Big East
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Reminder big east won 2 postseason events last season
Can we get three teams in the Sweet Sixteen? I guess SJU best possible for an Elite 8. It could be tough for them to advance to
the Final 4 because of free throw shooting. They may be able to overpower teams. The former Hall PG is going to be tough to handle for some of those schools.
the Final 4 because of free throw shooting. They may be able to overpower teams. The former Hall PG is going to be tough to handle for some of those schools.
5 should be the minimum for BE. 3 was a slap in the face.
Can't complain getting 5 teams in. Was the conference that much better this year that only 3 got in last year? I get bid stealers but this is all about NET.
Bid stealers IMO. One of the BE teams that got left out last year had a terrific NET. It wasn’t us - it was either Prov or SJU
SEC had a dominating year, hard to fathom 14 out of 16 teams get a bid? That's nuts. Give them credit, they invest the most money and will get the return. They dominated OOC play with an 89% overall winning %.
They got 2 teams in who went 6-12 in conference play and 4 more who went 8-10. I think they may have actually helped themselves by playing 18 conference games instead of 20. It allows those 6 teams above to get more total Wins. Oklahoma, for example was 13-0 OOC and 6-12 in SEC.
Also helps that they don't have any terrible teams that hurt the overall rating. Their 2 bottom teams had a #69 and #88 KP rating.
They got 2 teams in who went 6-12 in conference play and 4 more who went 8-10. I think they may have actually helped themselves by playing 18 conference games instead of 20. It allows those 6 teams above to get more total Wins. Oklahoma, for example was 13-0 OOC and 6-12 in SEC.
Also helps that they don't have any terrible teams that hurt the overall rating. Their 2 bottom teams had a #69 and #88 KP rating.
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Big East was far better last year, but last year had an abnormally high number of bid stealers.
Definitely better teams but better for the conference to get more in, then we what happens.
The BE was much better last year from top to bottom so it is strange to me that 5 got in. Let's see how well or poorly the teams do that got in. Frankly I don't feel St Johns is in the same class as UConn was last year. I expect them to bomb against good competition in the dance.
Drake a sleeper to me here...can the D2 kids and coach play up to the P4 types under the lights. St. John's not as deep at UConn was last year. St. John's can't shoot the 3.
I want to know a team in the 3pt era that made a final four with lowest percentage.
It’s all relative to the larger, national scene and then the subjectivity of the room for the final spots.
Even with 5 flukes last year, only Seton Hall was part of the First 4 out. St. John’s and Providence weren’t close.
True, but in the final seed list it was Oklahoma then SHU in the first four out after the five bid stealers.
Also St. Johns routinely plays defense by violating the cylinder rule. The BE refs let them get away with that but if games are called more tightly in that regard in the NCAA Tournament, then the Johnnies could have big problems.
Right. The NET wasn’t the be all end all. Committee seems to pick and choose and weigh a number of factors.
He's not wrong. Glad we got 5 this year, but there are lots of reasons on and off the court this seems to make sense.
It's the same issue that every hard nosed, aggressive team has faced in the past with the NCAA T. Whether that be Gtown back in the day, Huggins teams at Cincy or WVU, Sampson's current Houston teams, some of Pitino's Louisville teams. The Zebra-crew assigned can always impact those types of teams, one way or the other.
