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Clarence Thomas


Serious ethical lapses all over but don’t call for one’s head without calling another/all of them.
is calling it a lapse accurate? this isnt an oopsie moment.
 

Serious ethical lapses all over but don’t call for one’s head without calling another/all of them.
Go back to the top of the page and I posted about ethical lapses in an article that I posted about many of the Justices. However, there is not one Justice more blatant than Thomas. The scope and magnitude of the issues that Thomas is compromised on is far greater than any other Justice.
 
Yeah, I'm not a deadbeat lol.
Sorry dude, there’s millions of parents who can’t send their kid to their dream school because of finances and would take the offer in a second for their kids. Tons of parents who would prefer to send their kids to private rather than public. Millions of deadbeats in this country by your standards. You might want to talk to people and find out how many grandparents, not parents are paying for tuition.
 
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Sorry dude, there’s millions of parents who can’t send their kid to their dream school because of finances and would take the offer in a second for their kids. Millions of deadbeats in this country.

Millions of Americans live beyond their means as well, education just isnt a priority for alot of people. However, pretty sure Clarence Thomas has plenty of means to pay for tuition, hence he's a deadbeat.
 
Millions of Americans live beyond their means as well, education just isnt a priority for alot of people. However, pretty sure Clarence Thomas has plenty of means to pay for tuition, hence he's a deadbeat.
these justices were at one point big earning lawyers. Who leaves a big paying job to make $230k a year? They all do it for the perks. They’re all being taken care of in other ways because the system hasn’t stopped it. They all have the means to do what they want. They’re all worth about 20 million and they get taken care of by bigger money people. I guess you’re only a deadbeat when other people pick up the tuition tab. Non deadbeats just let the rich pay for things not tuition.
 
One heck of a mic drop there.
The bigger issue is the whole system is a joke and has been for years. I’ll bet nobody wants a justice like Thomas, RBG, and Breyer taking gifts. The question is why are they going after Thomas for doing the same things their icon RBG or Breyer did? If it was the other way around it would have been determined already it’s because of his race, clearly the left would never do such a thing.
 
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Sorry dude, there’s millions of parents who can’t send their kid to their dream school because of finances and would take the offer in a second for their kids. Tons of parents who would prefer to send their kids to private rather than public. Millions of deadbeats in this country by your standards. You might want to talk to people and find out how many grandparents, not parents are paying for tuition.

Good Lord, that has nothing do do with the substance here. Justice Thomas and his wife make more than enough money to send this kid to private school if that’s what they want to do.

If they still want a billionaire to subsidize it, fine.. disclose it.

Justice Thomas and his wife make enough money to pay for his mothers house and neighboring properties.. if they want a billionaire to subsidize that cost as well for them… fine.. disclose it.

Another conservative activists hid payments to pay Ginni Thomas.

The lack of disclosure here is the problem. There is a pattern of behavior which has the appearance that Justice Thomas is actively trying to hide this from the public.
 
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Good Lord, that has nothing do do with the substance here. Justice Thomas and his wife make more than enough money to send this kid to private school if that’s what they want to do.

If they still want a billionaire to subsidize it, fine.. disclose it.

Justice Thomas and his wife make enough money to pay for his mothers house and neighboring properties.. if they want a billionaire to subsidize that cost as well for them… fine.. disclose it.

Another conservative activists hid payments to pay Ginni Thomas.

The lack of disclosure here is the problem. There is a pattern of behavior which has the appearance that Justice Thomas is actively trying to hide this from the public.
Actually try reading what I responded to which said what kind of deadbeat has others paying for school?
 
Were they family vacations on private jets and yachts which went undisclosed, or were they business trips which were disclosed?

Good effort to obfuscate though senator Cruz… it’s working.
We don't know. We don't know how extreme these trips were. We don't know how much these 3rd parties took care of them beyond necessary. It's all the same game.

Then we coould loook at the ethics of these 2...Why didn't sotomayor and gorsuch recuse themselves on a case involving their publisher? We can go on and on and on about the lack of transparency.
 
We don't know. We don't know how extreme these trips were. We don't know how much these 3rd parties took care of them beyond necessary. It's all the same game.

No, it’s not, because they were disclosed.
Thomas is the outlier here.

.Why didn't sotomayor and gorsuch recuse themselves on a case involving their publisher? We can go on and on and on about the lack of transparency.

Because the interpretation was that it was not required under the rules, whereas Breyer had investment holdings with the company where recusal was required.
 
No, it’s not, because they were disclosed.
Thomas is the outlier here.

They disclosed business trips. Nobody knows about personal trips because it never had to be disclosed until March of 2023. There was a personal hospitality exemption. God only knows what we would find. Not to mention they never had to disclose how lavish their business trips were. I imagine the billionaires didn't go cheap.
 
hey disclosed business trips. Nobody knows about personal trips because it never had to be disclosed until March of 2023. There was a personal hospitality exemption.

"except that any food, lodging, or entertainment received as personal hospitality "

I'm missing where that says transportation, and especially transportation on private a private jet?
 
Were they family vacations on private jets and yachts which went undisclosed, or were they business trips which were disclosed?

Good effort to obfuscate though senator Cruz… it’s working.
"except that any food, lodging, or entertainment received as personal hospitality "

I'm missing where that says transportation, and especially transportation on private a private jet?
So all of the disclosed trips by other justices were for business. Ok, let's go with that. Do you really believe none of them took a private jet for personal use? Am I to believe Thomas is the only justice to take private jet for personal use. That would be shocking. Nobody with a private jet ever offered lodging in their European or tropical home to a justice and didn't provide the travel? Yeah ok. If all the other trips on private jets were business sounds like if they ever took a private jet for personal trips they didn't disclose it either.
 
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Guess we should overlook Sotomayor deciding cases revolving her publisher that gave her $3 million for her book.After all she is a women,hispantic,and a democrat so I should be cancelled for bringing it up Hiw racist and misogynistic of me.
 
Am I to believe Thomas is the only justice to take private jet for personal use. That would be shocking.

For a personal vacation? You're free to believe whatever you want and I'm sure every conservative media outlet is doing their best to uncover anything if there is something there.

If all the other trips on private jets were business sounds like if they ever took a private jet they didn't disclose it either.

That would not be part of hospitality though since they were traveling for something business related.

The “personal hospitality” exemption means judges and justices don’t have to disclose certain gifts, including accommodations and food, when the person involved is a friend. The new interpretation made it clear that travel by private jet and stays at resort-type facilities owned by private entities have to be disclosed.

When things aren't clear, err on the side of caution. Disclose more than needed, not less.
 
Guess we should overlook Sotomayor deciding cases revolving her publisher that gave her $3 million for her book.

As mentioned previously, the interpretation was that relationship did not require recusal which is why she and Gorsuch did not recuse themselves. What has required recusal was investment holdings of the company which is why Breyer did recuse himself.

The argument being that Sotomayor and Gorsuch were continuing to earn royalties from their books, though the outcome of a case before the court would not impact those royalties whereas Breyer holding an investment of the punisher would have a vested interest in the outcome of the case.
Seems reasonable.
 
For a personal vacation? You're free to believe whatever you want and I'm sure every conservative media outlet is doing their best to uncover anything if there is something there.
Agree 100%. And they liberal media has needed about 15 years to uncover this on Thomas, so it will take time. But I'm not naive to enough to think these people aren't getting personal/family perks. If you want to look at the perspective of it's not out there so I'll you can't assume that's fine. I kind of look at it from the perspective of I never saw a college basketball player actually get paid 10 years ago but I'm not naive to think because I didn't see it didn't happen.
 
"except that any food, lodging, or entertainment received as personal hospitality "

I'm missing where that says transportation, and especially transportation on private a private jet?
Really getting into the weeds here, but does it matter if it's a personal jet or a first class ticket? Harlan Crowe owns a jet and that's how he travels.
As mentioned previously, the interpretation was that relationship did not require recusal which is why she and Gorsuch did not recuse themselves. What has required recusal was investment holdings of the company which is why Breyer did recuse himself.
But isn't that also a "bad look" to be accepting money from the publisher and not recusing yourself?
The argument being that Sotomayor and Gorsuch were continuing to earn royalties from their books, though the outcome of a case before the court would not impact those royalties whereas Breyer holding an investment of the punisher would have a vested interest in the outcome of the case.
Seems reasonable.
The timing of the payments also was not a good look.
 
One heck of a mic drop there.
Why is this a mic drop? Breyer went on trips to evaluate architecture which were awards done by the Pritzker family. Yes there was travel. Yes, it was paid for by a billionaire. But Pritzker was not paying buying a house from the Justice and letting their family stay there. He was not paying for relatives tuition in the tune of $100k a year. Many justices as I point out had some potential conflicts from Roberts to Sotomayor. None are as egregious as Thomas who is being paid by a billionaire ideologue involved in cases before the Supreme Court and donating to foundations that pay Thomas' wife.

I think ethical rules need to be tightened up for the entire Court but no Justice is pulling the shit Thomas is pulling.
 
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Oh my gosh people are looking at Dem justices paid for trips.Breyer had over 200 reports are saying.I think we should look at him as a corrupt justice if Thomas is ,oh he is liberal dem so there can’t possibly be any corruption.Hypocrisy thy name is the main stream media.
 
but no Justice is pulling the shit Thomas is pulling.
Something tells me you'll be eating these words one day in the not too distant future. How many times do we hear about how horrible one side is and then a couple months later there's proof the other side was doing the same thing.
 
and then a couple months later there's proof the other side was doing the same thing.

You think we'll find someone else doing the same thing?

You think we'll find another Justice that had a billionaire pay for their family vacations, pay for their mothers home (and for their mother to continue to live there) pay for the neighboring houses so their mother wouldn't have to put up with having to live next to said neighbors, pay for their relatives to go to private school, pay for their spouse to start up a non-profit ($500k) ... etc? and then that Justice thinking that any and all of this stuff falls outside of disclosure requirements?

Extremely unlikely.
 
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You think we'll find someone else doing the same thing?

You think we'll find another Justice that had a billionaire pay for their family vacations, pay for their mothers home (and for their mother to continue to live there) pay for the neighboring houses so their mother wouldn't have to put up with having to live next to said neighbors, pay for their relatives to go to private school, pay for their spouse to start up a non-profit ($500k) ... etc? and then that Justice thinking that any and all of this stuff falls outside of disclosure requirements?

Extremely unlikely.
That’s just silly…the exact same things? You know what he meant.
 
Something tells me you'll be eating these words one day in the not too distant future. How many times do we hear about how horrible one side is and then a couple months later there's proof the other side was doing the same thing.
If that’s true, then that Justice should go too. I don’t care if it’s an R or a D or an I.
 
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