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#COACHFRAGILE

chickenbox

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Kevin Willard thinks and acts like a victim. He believes that everything that goes wrong is either a) unique to his situation or b) beyond his control.



"It's a tough way to end the year, but I can't say a bad thing about those kids -- the amount of freshmen we played"



Yes, you a lot of freshman played this year. And do you know why so many freshman played? Because YOU DECIDED TO PLAY A LOT OF FRESHMEN. YOU signed a bunch freshman because YOU had a lot of scholarships to give out because of how YOU have recruited and then YOU - no one else - decided to play many of those freshman a lot of minutes. That's one of the things about being a head coach: YOU and ONLY YOU decide a) who gets to be on your team, b) who on your team gets to play, and c) how many minutes they get to play.



"and some of the stuff we had to go through, it was very tough on them,"



Yes, your players "had to go through" some stuff that I am sure it was tough on them - stuff like a divided locker room and players almost fighting and possibly bullying each other, and who knows what else. And do you know who is responsible for either 1) making sure that stuff doesn't happen in the first place or b) shutting it down when it does? IT'S YOU!



And, as you know, one reason YOU decided given even more freshman even more minutes was because one of your non-freshman starting guards left the team midseason because he decided he didn't want to spend another minute in the locker room YOU manage.



"We became very fragile in the second half of the year, which sometimes happens."



Yes, it does sometimes happen. In fact, it seems to happen every year. And do you know why it happens? Because YOU allow it to happen. YOU have to demand that players keep playing hard and within your system and if they don't YOU have to sit them down until they do. There's no guarantee that doing this will result in wins, but failing to do it guarantees losses.



Mind you, all these quotes are from a SINGLE POSTGAME. There are countless others from across five seasons.



"When guys bank shots in on you a couple of times, their fight and their grit is still there, they're not mentally able to get over that hump."



Yes, sometimes players on the other team make lucky shots - and sometimes players on Seton Hall make lucky shots, too! And yes, sometimes your players will feel defeated when "something went bad" and that's why YOU have to change that mindset so it doesn't defeat them.



Ugh, I'm actually already burned out on this - will just post the quotes - I'm sure you can see for yourself the many layers of victim mentality.



"When you have as many young guys who never really had to go through what they've went through, playing great competition every night, playing older stronger kids every night, I just think experience counts, I think it's one of the reasons the league is so good because it's so senior- and junior-laden."



"I think the thing I'm frustrated the most of, the only year I went gone into Big East play without anyone hurt was my 2nd year ... I think that's my frustration, I think we've gotten to a pretty good point, but once you're going into the toughest part of your season we're adjusting and then we're constantly adjusting and that's the only frustrating part."



"He's not as confident as he was in the beginning of the year, he just hasn't had enough time to practice, enough time to play. He's part of a fragile group."



"It's tough for them to end the year this way because they deserve a little bit better, they've earned a little bit better, they've worked hard, the attitude has been great, we just got really fragile toward the end of the year."



Obviously, Willard thinks going with #TEAMFRAGILE will make the players look worse than the coach. I really, really, really hope he's wrong.
 
Originally posted by chickenbox:

Kevin Willard thinks and acts like a victim. He believes that everything that goes wrong is either a) unique to his situation or b) beyond his control.
Well stated.

Said more crudely, he's got a losing mentality.

Its not hard to see how and why he's unable to manage the tide when it rolls in. Sadly he's taken a group of kids who were from winning HS programs and mired them in his own confused, losing mentality.
 
I've run out of words. Willard is a pathetic coach and should be fired before lunch time tomorrow. There is no defending his utter failure as our HC. How he in conscience can continue to take a salary is beyond me. Kevin Willard, have you no shame, sir?
 
I feel Sina left because the locker room turned on him because he no longer had Willard promising him all the minutes anymore. Willard had to convince him to come back and did it by giving him guaranteed PT. Once the train started to come off the rails, Willard was forced to back on his word, Sina then leaves because he feels Willard didn't have his back which let other players be tough on Sina.

This is not met as a bash on Sina rather emphasizing the point Willard lacks the ability to coach at this level since he doesn't know how to manage his own players.
 
from reading those quotes, he speaks in the third voice... like an observer, not someone involved.... the kids probably picked up and that arms length approach and the results were what the results were
 
That's a great post, 'box. Really hammers the point home. There is a lot of gratuitous Willard-bashing on the board (which is unnecessary, given all the legitimate gripes we have), and much redundancy, but this paints a very vivid picture of an excuse-making loser, a coach who would have us believe his is the first team every to be young or experience injuries.

It's ridiculous.
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And it's not just that we're young, it's as if he's not responsible for our youth. Having a team full of freshman logging major minutes is a CHOICE, and like almost every other choice made regarding the team, it's a ultimately a choice HE as head coach made. This is the issue he either doesn't understand or hopes we don't understand. This is the victim mentality.
 
Chickenbox,

I find it really ironic that you haven't been on the board for a few years and now you post constantly. As a matter of fact, the last time you were this active was when the Gonzo era was coming to an end. In all seriousness, do you just get off -trying to flame or are you a loyal fan/ alumnus of the program? The fact that you didn't know that Karlis was a senior leads me to believe that you are really enjoying this.
 
No, I am not enjoying this. Also, I knew Karlis was a senior. What I didn't realize, until I posted that thread, was that the next game was our senior night, not that one. My absence was for health reasons - I wasn't doing much posting anywhere for a couple years, I'm afraid.
 
Originally posted by Burnsly:
Chickenbox,

I find it really ironic that you haven't been on the board for a few years and now you post constantly. As a matter of fact, the last time you were this active was when the Gonzo era was coming to an end. In all seriousness, do you just get off -trying to flame or are you a loyal fan/ alumnus of the program? The fact that you didn't know that Karlis was a senior leads me to believe that you are really enjoying this.
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dude has 11,000 posts.
 
Oh, and I'm no program alumnus. In fact, I have no connection to the program other then being a fan of its basketball program since I was a child, what, over 25 years ago and decided I liked the team sitting lots of threes and wearing blue that had a pirate. Believe me, if you choose to, a non alumnus, non New Jerseyian, no family connection to the school or program guy now living in California for eight years doesn't follow the hall for decades for giggles or because he's a bandwagoner. I love the Hall, but this is unfortunately not a glory program casual fans follow. I'm a true fan and because I am, I care about the state/fate of the program, and because I care, I spend the time pointing out, often in detail, how I think it is being harmed, because I don't want it to be harmed. I want it to prosper. That is the intention behind this thread. While they're have been others like it, I think it presents a slightly new take (the victimhood) on what I believe is going on and why it's a problem.
 
Chickenbox is the best Seton Hall fan there is ... A guy from another state who became a fan of the program only from watching the team on TV in the 1990s.. and he still does.

Duke has tens of thousands of fans like that, and they are front runners. Seton Hall has one, and he's loyal.

Chickenbox, I salute you!
 
Originally posted by lloyde dobler:

Chickenbox is the best Seton Hall fan there is ... A guy from another state who became a fan of the program only from watching the team on TV in the 1990s.. and he still does.

Duke has tens of thousands of fans like that, and they are front runners. Seton Hall has one, and he's loyal.

Chickenbox, I salute you!
80s, actually, and thanks!
 
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