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Convalescent Plasma for COVID-19 treatment

Can we revisit this next week to see if that actually happens? Have you heard Gavin Newsome’s assessment? DiBlasio? Trump isn’t the only politician that says irresponsible things. Actions and results matter.

DiBlasio has been horrible. He went to the gym the day they announced non essential businesses would close.
 
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De Blasio and Cuomo said NY/C will run out of ventilators by early next week. Is the job getting done?

What happened to the National Defense Production Act?

I never said he's getting the job done. I'm just saying there's bigger things than wording and tone.

I'm disgusted with the SBA right now and the 2.2 trillion PPP. 16% of that is going to the "backbone" of the economy. The wording is nice, the action sucks.
 
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Amazing the few angry elfs that never contribute anything of substance...
 
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Did they mention it at the briefing today? I watched but to be honest I wasn't paying close attention. Don't remember hearing about it though.
I only saw part of it but don’t think Pence covered it. The FDA release was supposed to be last night but got delayed to today, so it may have missed the cut on today’s briefing.
 
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Why do countries like Hungary, Slovakia, Belarus have minimal numbers, even though they are on a continent that has some of the most horrendous numbers.

That's an easy one - the tremendous healing powers of goulash. Aunt Tekla always made me a bowl whenever I had a cold. In the alternative maybe we could have done more testing early on so we too would have minimal numbers. Let's revisit this nugget from March 14 -

South Korea who has tested the most people has 5x the infection rate as the US with 1/7 of our population. Our focus on containment and social distancing should and is a priority. We also have a very different culture. Results ultimately will matter most.

I would like to see more tests available but the obsession with testing in some circles is over the top, especially with the way this disease manifests itself.

Three weeks later we unfortunately have 27 times as many cases as South Korea and 41 times as many deaths. Your ability to be spectacularly wrong is impressive. I fear for the people of Hungary, Slovakia and Belarus.
 
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That's an easy one - the tremendous healing powers of goulash. Aunt Tekla always made me a bowl whenever I had a cold. In the alternative maybe we could have done more testing early on so we too would have minimal numbers. Let's revisit this nugget from March 14 -



Three weeks later we unfortunately have 27 times as many cases as South Korea and 41 times as many deaths. Your ability to be spectacularly wrong is impressive. I fear for the people of Hungary, Slovakia and Belarus.
Trolls gonna troll.
 
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Trolls gonna troll.

That said... Countries around the world will have different results. Some due to cultural differences and some due to different actions. But, just like assuming Spain and Germany were growing faster than the US, it's more a matter of what the virus got to each area and what it looked like when the virus hit a critical mass to start to have exponential growth.

Belarus for example had 94 confirmed cases a week ago. Increasing by more than 20% per day since then and their government is not taking it seriously. No reason to think they will be spared.
Hungry appears low on testing capacity. They are larger than Austria, yet Austria has performed more than 5x the amount of tests. Assuming their mortality rates should be similar, it would appear Hungary is under reported right now.

Those countries and other with low numbers have the benefit of seeing what is happening in America so they could take it more seriously than thinking it was just a problem with certain countries... I'm hopeful the citizens there all take it seriously.
 
That said... Countries around the world will have different results. Some due to cultural differences and some due to different actions. But, just like assuming Spain and Germany were growing faster than the US, it's more a matter of what the virus got to each area and what it looked like when the virus hit a critical mass to start to have exponential growth.

Belarus for example had 94 confirmed cases a week ago. Increasing by more than 20% per day since then and their government is not taking it seriously. No reason to think they will be spared.
Hungry appears low on testing capacity. They are larger than Austria, yet Austria has performed more than 5x the amount of tests. Assuming their mortality rates should be similar, it would appear Hungary is under reported right now.

Those countries and other with low numbers have the benefit of seeing what is happening in America so they could take it more seriously than thinking it was just a problem with certain countries... I'm hopeful the citizens there all take it seriously.
I agree that it’s difficult to draw any conclusions right now. That’s why I was suggesting that when all this passes it would make sense to analyze factors across all countries especially if the rates vary significantly.
 
50,000 doses are being transfused each month and they want to ramp up to 100k because it’s working. You have something against lives being saved. 35% improved survival rate.
I realize a lot of this is on the fly seems good enough to implement for wider range now. Trump has played this FDA guy like a fiddle though.
 
50,000 doses are being transfused each month and they want to ramp up to 100k because it’s working. You have something against lives being saved. 35% improved survival rate.
Hall85 you like to twist numbers here when it suits your narrative. By no way am I seeking for covid deaths although its sad that 200k seems inevitable. However, I read this evening that this 35% number is not absolute by varied sources.
 
Hall85 you like to twist numbers here when it suits your narrative. By no way am I seeking for covid deaths although its sad that 200k seems inevitable. However, I read this evening that this 35% number is not absolute by varied sources.
I posted what has been good news in terms of a therapy that has shown promising results over the past six months; the FDA and BARDA continue to fund and fast track the utilization. What does the number of fatalities have to do with anything? If more people that have recovered from COVID, would donate, we’d help a lot more patients suffering from the disease. Did Trump announce this today to set himself up for the convention? Sure he did. But the Mayo Clinic data is very good and it’s working.

Expanded access is a way to treat more patients (and continue to collect data) in an emergency type situation like we have.
 
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If those were the only words he uttered on the subject and let the experts take it from there, I might agree with your average assessment.
Unfortunately, he did not stop there and I am including them in my assessment.

Things like
The heat will kill it
We’re down to 5 cases which will be down to 0
It’s going to disappear like a miracle
Asking if a flu vaccine will help
Those infected can get better at work
Responding pathetically about what to say to Americans who are scared...

He has had 2-3 days of good presses conferences / speeches out of about 30.
I’m in the middle of the road, left lean. But the anti trumpers and protrumpers continually discredit themselves. CONSTANTLY. I’m not really referring to people here BTW
 
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