And that comes back to the concern from the very beginning of Sha's tenure that he did not hire an experienced assistant coach that could talk some sense into him
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I think this is as bogus a comment we get on here since Whitehead coached the team. Sha was making 300K a couple years ago. He's now making 2.5mil. Does anyone think he's ok doing something that's going to cause him back to making 300K a year?
The guy went from a basketball savant 21 months ago to someone who can't figure out the right lineups today? I think the reason Dawes gets such a lease speaks more to the depth or lack of than anything else.
I don't feel bad for him at all. He's a selfish player, overrated shooter, and the coach is letting him do this without consequence. Most coaches would have sat him down by now.
Lol stop that. Ridiculous comment.
1. Whitehead revived the program and was a top player in the country. Can’t even compare the 2
2. Sha needs someone to tell him that if this continues he will go back to making 300k. Coaches can sometimes get blinded by these things and their biases show and that’s when you need an experienced assistant to pull him aside. Whether this is his relationship with the player / advisor or just some form of unconscious bias, there is something not beneficial to the program there
3. You say we lack depth except coleman has been playing well and is a super high potential player. Not to mention sanders who we don’t know yet because he has 0 confidence as he’s never in the game long enough to get a flow and the second he does something wrong he knows he’s out of the game
1. Great player. Deserved/earned tons of accolades. But he didn't coach the team. I wasn't comparing Dawes and Whitehead. I was comparing the ridiculousness of the 2 comments.
2. Sorry I think this guy puts winning above all. He's a hardcore competitor. He went after DC postgame but isn't going to go after Dawes? Give me a break.
3. Watching last night when Sanders was in he get beat off the dribble rather easily. Throw Coleman in there and you stretch the opponents D how?
What is obvious is that Sha is not putting his best lineup on the floor to start games and that’s a prescription for disaster on many levels . Someone has to get into Sha’s ear and find out what’s behind the deal with Dawes.
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He definitely has an unlimited green light to shoot. Very strange.
To me Dawes is your typical AAAA player. Good enough to generally shine in places like Buffalo, Norfolk and Reno but not good enough consistently to play in New York, Los Angeles or Chicago. I also think it's pretty well known that Dawes is our only real threat from three and is defended accordingly. Naturally, the better teams do a better job at it. It's the same reason what works against FDU and Wagner doesn't work as well against USC and Baylor.
While I won't completely agree with the idea that he's doing what the staff is telling him to do, I do believe Dawes is filling the role of what he was brought here to do. Shoot the three and run the offense at times. Unfortunately, if he's not making threes he's not helping much.
He struggled last night, to be sure, but did some nice things too. He had four assists, a couple of which were very nice. Frankly, other than Richmond, the guards/wings did very little last night. Addae-Wusu was ok while Coleman and Sanders combined for one shot in 22 minutes. As well as he played early on, Richmond was nearly invisible the last 12 minutes or so.
I don't like the idea of benching Dawes because it strips the starting unit of the one guy who has the ability to shoot the ball from distance. I like Coleman but swapping him for Dawes changes three roles because it slides Addae-Wusu to the two which miscasts him as "the shooter."
While I won't completely agree with the idea that he's doing what the staff is telling him to do, I do believe Dawes is filling the role of what he was brought here to do. Shoot the three and run the offense at times. Unfortunately, if he's not making threes he's not helping much.
He struggled last night, to be sure, but did some nice things too. He had four assists, a couple of which were very nice. Frankly, other than Richmond, the guards/wings did very little last night. Addae-Wusu was ok while Coleman and Sanders combined for one shot in 22 minutes. As well as he played early on, Richmond was nearly invisible the last 12 minutes or so.
I don't like the idea of benching Dawes because it strips the starting unit of the one guy who has the ability to shoot the ball from distance. I like Coleman but swapping him for Dawes changes three roles because it slides Addae-Wusu to the two which miscasts him as "the shooter."
Yeah I don’t think Dawes has gone rogue. I think he’s got the green light and that’s the deal here. Why Sha leaves it. The hope is you take the bad decisions with good 3PT shot making. It’s not happening and it’s killing the team right now. And that’s just his offense! With the way Dawes has performed you could change the rotation around at least to start the games because he’s first halves are the worst of it all and we’re constantly down big early in large part because of it. But so far Holloway is resistant to that.
Help is not coming aboard. This is the team with its limitations. Maybe Holloway can tinker enough to improve Dawes’ level of play because we need it and he’s reluctant to go anywhere else to adjust the rotation, at least right now. This could go on all year. We’ve seen it before. We’ll see.
The team has played 8 games, 3 against good competition. I see mostly what we expected from each player, probably overall a little bit better because Bediako and Coleman have been good and it looks like maybe EHE and Tubek can be reliable reserves. Dawes is really the only one that jumps out to the other side that’s hurt, which is a bit surprising the extent. Sanders I know had some hype, but I don’t see it.
Help is not coming aboard. This is the team with its limitations. Maybe Holloway can tinker enough to improve Dawes’ level of play because we need it and he’s reluctant to go anywhere else to adjust the rotation, at least right now. This could go on all year. We’ve seen it before. We’ll see.
The team has played 8 games, 3 against good competition. I see mostly what we expected from each player, probably overall a little bit better because Bediako and Coleman have been good and it looks like maybe EHE and Tubek can be reliable reserves. Dawes is really the only one that jumps out to the other side that’s hurt, which is a bit surprising the extent. Sanders I know had some hype, but I don’t see it.
His drives to the basket drive me nuts .out of control with no hope to score or get the call in traffic.
Only thing it does is gives the opponent an easy 2 the other way.
I can forgive missing a contested 3 but this I cant
Only thing it does is gives the opponent an easy 2 the other way.
I can forgive missing a contested 3 but this I cant
It’s almost like he forgets who he’s playing against. This isn’t high school where I’m sure he made a living off of those acrobatic prayers some would call layups. He drives into the trees and literally throws it into waiting defensive hands. Why?????
Right does he realize you are allowed to pull up or how about jump stop and pump fake and get your man in the air or pass to an open teammate.
Sha doesn't have a lot of answers. He is hoping the light goes off and Dawes turns it around. He most likely sees it every day in practice but when the lights go on Al becomes Al. If Sanders stepped up, I do not doubt Sha would be playing him more but his defense has not improved enough and he seems a step slow. We can go without Dawes but then we have no real shooters on the floor and teams will just pack it in.
Again the roster is flawed. Sha needs to prioritize shooters and other guys need to shoot better like Kadary and Wusu or this offense will continue to struggle to score 60 points a game.
What is perplexing is how bad Dawes D has become. He was never a plus defender but he was decent. This year he seems lost on the floor. I am afraid to say we will go up or down as Dawes goes.
Again the roster is flawed. Sha needs to prioritize shooters and other guys need to shoot better like Kadary and Wusu or this offense will continue to struggle to score 60 points a game.
What is perplexing is how bad Dawes D has become. He was never a plus defender but he was decent. This year he seems lost on the floor. I am afraid to say we will go up or down as Dawes goes.
Dawes is best at catch and shoot. His worst performances come when he tries to create on his own.
If he can say Richmond was “resting” in the corners because he was tired and should have asked out to rest, he can absolutely say that he’d like to see some better shot selection from Dawes.
yeah. But you need to be able to do more than that as a starting SG in major D-1 basketball. Or at least shoot it around 50% if that’s all you can do…
Coleman had a bad game and Sanders has yet to show he is a P6 level player (he’s been here for over a year).
Dude, I’d pay Brown over him at this point. Brown was a late signing. I’d be willing to bet he has more upside at this point. He shows a very nice stroke from deep. He’s also showed a few nice drives where he actually finished. Dawes can’t even make layups. His overall FG% is almost the same as His 3pt%.
I feel like Sha may have a bit better idea of how to push people's performance buttons than this board. Richmond has tremendously improved under Sha and he is pushing for more.
Dawes is all about hitting one of his first shots. We need him to come around for any semblance of a good season and Sha knows that. Ripping Dawes on radio when he is in a massive shooting slump may not be the best course, but the coach knows better than this board.
Totally disagree. Sanders is supposed the be “the best shooter” on the team. Let him catch fire. He’s defense can’t possibly be worse than what Dawes displayed last night. Play Coleman. His defense is far better AND he is the future. Dawes is gone end of year.
We tried to play Coleman last night. It was his worst game of the season. Sanders defense is significantly worse than the poorest defense played by Dawes.
I get there is a narrative out there, but Sha did go to Coleman fairly early and it was not good.
When has he gotten any extended run? I don’t care what happens in practice, you don’t get better there. You learn from game experience. Our coaches past and present need to learn to develop players. Richmond has developed but has done so by playing. You may sacrifice and have to live with some mistakes but it’s the only way we as a team will get better. We can’t keep expecting to scrape the barrel of the portal for plug and play stars. There is a reason they didn’t work out on their previous team. We need to develop young players.
Sorry I didn’t see Coleman as playing that poorly. Ran nothing for him. He needs to learn on the job so to speak. Let him have his growing pains. We’re wasting our time with Dawes. They aren’t firing Sha for his record anytime soon. Take your lumps and let the younger players grow.
Watch the tape. 2 backdoor lay ups
Turnovers
Losing man on defense.
Turnovers on fast break at critical point in game.
Coleman Big East frosh of week twice. Seems like he is getting plenty of time and developing well.
Maybe he is just stubborn and doesnt listen to others. He got a job making 2;5 mill on his own and maybe on his own is how he sees things.
Dawes had a bad TO, fouled a 3 pt shooter, at least 1 and 1 Olay defensive play and if I’m not mistaken, 2. 0-8 from the fl. 1 airball 1 horrible 3 that lead to a fast break. Overall we would have been better playing 4 on 5. He was that bad. The team was markedly better with him on the bench. I sadly was hoping he’d foul out to save Sha the decision.
I don't disagree with Dawes was bad last night and we were better with him on bench. I was responding to we should have played Coleman. We tried to do that.
Did you see Sanders get beat off dribble twice on consecutive plays against Northeastern right in front of Sha? He needs to help himself. What do you think Baylor guards would have done? And I agree he should play more because we need his shooting .
He doesn’t get more run is because he is too slow, can’t get open because he’s too slow and he can’t play D. It’s like when an NFL team is going bad, the fan’s favorite player is the back up QB.
This situation with Dawes is the Zach Wilson version applied to SHU!
I think the same thing was said about Willard. I think the same thing was said about Gonzo. I think the same thing was said about Orr. Is it something in the water they give to the ADs that they keep hiring people with that same trait?
PJ too and Bobby Knight and how many more...maybe it is a common trait of coaches?
Northeastern game. We also play that Willard hybrid match up late in shot clock best I can tell.
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