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[SHUisNJsTeam]

Where do you see me making that statement? Do you read or just feel the need to respond angerly to every post!

I fully agree with many of the comments made on this thread and in fact that was my main reason to start it. I wanted to bring a subject up that has fallen into the background and place the blame squarely on all of our shoulders.

We share failure together as we do success. It's a team effort.

My comment above doesn't even hint at the lack of communication no longer being relevant. Instead I noted that HERE that is no longer the case as we are all reading this long thread and in short those that do cannot use the excuse of ignorance moving forward.

That said, I will be donating again to Mike Walsh's group as he will be passing that money along to the Challenge. I do that because Mike has been there since day one for the 'little guy,' most of which are contributors from this board.

I ask those reading this to support Hall Hands on Deck in like fashion. Give what you can, even if the amount is small as that amount will be doubled. Let's show our support for both Hall Hands on Deck as well as Seton Hall.

Just remember please do so before September 4th!!!!!!!

Home | Hall Hands on Deck

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Um, you said it right here…

At least here the lack of communication regarding the Challenge is no longer relevant.

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Hall Ball is that weak link. They don’t communicate and still don’t. It seems you have friends in that group, including others like Felt, and they are either leaning on you to promote this or you are the one who can see that this is a disaster and you are trying to help them save face out of the goodness of your heart. Either way, Hall Ball is not the one reaching out because they never do, especially to the level of the majority of the people here who are donors.

I would be curious to know, since your original post in this thread, how many have donated to Hall Ball who has not reached out (you have asked but they haven’t) and how many have donated to HHOD because Mike reached out here on behalf of his group just because they know how hard Mike works and they want to support his efforts.

Like I said, no one wants to see Seton Hall succeed more than I do and it is extremely frustrating when you can see plain as day that the effort that should be made is not. Mike McBride is still very new and probably still learning his way around campus so we have to give him time. Hopefully it’s not too late.

I know you don’t like that I point out the university’s short comings but I only do so because I expect more, a lot more (look at how many likes some of my posts on this get, seems I’m not alone either in this thinking). I want success at the highest levels, I want conference and national championships across all of our sports. I also believe this can be achieved with the right people in place who give 200% effort. Sadly we do not have that now.

I know you interview people in the athletic department. Maybe ask Bryan Felt, Pat Lyons or whoever what we need to do to have all of our sports finish in the top five of the conference on a consistent basis.

 

[thehall07]

You also have to actually have a marketing effort. With Hall Ball there is no marketing effort and there is no plan. They are is desperate need of marketing people who also have a passion for Seton Hall.

Ever see the Hall Ba website, it looks like a 5th grader designed it. Compare that with Prov NIL website it’s night and day.

 

[thehall07]

Um, you said it right here…


A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Hall Ball is that weak link. They don’t communicate and still don’t. It seems you have friends in that group, including others like Felt, and they are either leaning on you to promote this or you are the one who can see that this is a disaster and you are trying to help them save face out of the goodness of your heart. Either way, Hall Ball is not the one reaching out because they never do, especially to the level of the majority of the people here who are donors.

I would be curious to know, since your original post in this thread, how many have donated to Hall Ball who has not reached out (you have asked but they haven’t) and how many have donated to HHOD because Mike reached out here on behalf of his group just because they know how hard Mike works and they want to support his efforts.

Like I said, no one wants to see Seton Hall succeed more than I do and it is extremely frustrating when you can see plain as day that the effort that should be made is not. Mike McBride is still very new and probably still learning his way around campus so we have to give him time. Hopefully it’s not too late.

I know you don’t like that I point out the university’s short comings but I only do so because I expect more, a lot more (look at how many likes some of my posts on this get, seems I’m not alone either in this thinking). I want success at the highest levels, I want conference and national championships across all of our sports. I also believe this can be achieved with the right people in place who give 200% effort. Sadly we do not have that now.

I know you interview people in the athletic department. Maybe ask Bryan Felt, Pat Lyons or whoever what we need to do to have all of our sports finish in the top five of the conference on a consistent basis.

Going at Dan doesn’t help, he is the sole reason we hit the 50 states challenge year in year out. He sees a gap and is trying to close it , it just hurts and sucks to see this being your only true route over and over again.

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

Ever see the Hall Ba website, it looks like a 5th grader designed it. Compare that with Prov NIL website it’s night and day.

That’s the difference between caring and not caring. Providence gets it, Seton Hall ignores those who get it and will only do the bare bones minimum when pressured to do anything. Sad.

 

[shu09]

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was telling you what to do with your money. I was merely suggesting a way that you can help and make the situation better.

That person is a troll, don't waste your time.

 

[SHUSource]

Ever see the Hall Ba website, it looks like a 5th grader designed it.

I just went to have a look and it's firewalled by my workplace. Firefox said it's a security risk (pertaining to credit cards) and Chrome says it's a pornographic site. I can't even make this up.

(By the way, virtually nothing is firewalled here except for gambling and actual porn sites, so it really says something... What, I have no idea, but...)

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

Going at Dan doesn’t help, he is the sole reason we hit the 50 states challenge year in year out. He sees a gap and is trying to close it , it just hurts and sucks to see this being your only true route over and over again.

Dan asked me a question, I just answered it. Sorry if you don’t like the answer but it is what it is. I’m also not going at Dan, that’s not my intention. I think Dan gets upset because I’m calling out his friends who provide access to him at Seton Hall. Dan is trying to help which is certainly very commendable. The thing is people like Dan, who are not being paid by the university, are giving 110% more effort than the professionals paid to do the job. Same with folks like Mike Walsh and HHOD. The university currently does not recognize Mike’s group but he and his team are busting their asses to make us successful. HHOD ran a tremendously successful campaign with very few resources and targeting the little people Hall Ball wants nothing to do with. Now Hall Ball wants us to help (maybe, who knows, because they’ve never asked us directly) because they either can’t get the big money people they prefer to deal with to either pony up or pay attention. Maybe Hall Ball is ignoring them as well and this is why we are in the situation we are in.

Meanwhile the university and Hall Ball, with the professionals and resources necessary, who should be able to blow away the efforts of the Dan’s and Mike Walsh’s among us, choose to sit back and blame everyone else for their shortcomings.

 

[walshtrips]

I get why so many people have a beef, and have my own concerns.

I have one ask, after we get our act together and promote and communicate future fundraising events properly, we'd appreciate everyone's support!

GO PIRATES!!!

 

[sami]

I just went to have a look and it's firewalled by my workplace. Firefox said it's a security risk (pertaining to credit cards) and Chrome says it's a pornographic site. I can't even make this up.

(By the way, virtually nothing is firewalled here except for gambling and actual porn sites, so it really says something... What, I have no idea, but...)

Did you go to Hall Ball, Hall Balls or Hall Ballz?

 

[Mbrantfan88]

Your fundraising is going to match the excitement around your program. Last year was bleh. Recruiting has been bleh. Prospect for this year are bleh. This is not surprising.

 

[SOBO1]

Your fundraising is going to match the excitement around your program. Last year was bleh. Recruiting has been bleh. Prospect for this year are bleh. This is not surprising.

In a sense it’s a catch 22 situation. Can’t get NIL donations without a quality product. Can’t get a quality product without NIL.

 

[Duego Duck]

Where do you see me making that statement? Do you read or just feel the need to respond angerly to every post!

I fully agree with many of the comments made on this thread and in fact that was my main reason to start it. I wanted to bring a subject up that has fallen into the background and place the blame squarely on all of our shoulders.

We share failure together as we do success. It's a team effort.

My comment above doesn't even hint at the lack of communication no longer being relevant. Instead I noted that HERE that is no longer the case as we are all reading this long thread and in short those that do cannot use the excuse of ignorance moving forward.

That said, I will be donating again to Mike Walsh's group as he will be passing that money along to the Challenge. I do that because Mike has been there since day one for the 'little guy,' most of which are contributors from this board.

I ask those reading this to support Hall Hands on Deck in like fashion. Give what you can, even if the amount is small as that amount will be doubled. Let's show our support for both Hall Hands on Deck as well as Seton Hall.

Just remember please do so before September 4th!!!!!!!

Home | Hall Hands on Deck

www.hallhandsondeck.com

I may be only a duck, but Dan's comments seem very reasonable to me.

 

[SHUSource]

Did you go to Hall Ball, Hall Balls or Hall Ballz?

Ha! Seriously, I tried accessing it a few different ways, including direct from the link in their original press release.

(By the way, this isn't a commentary on Hall Ball or any of these efforts to raise "NIL" funds. It just underscores the steepness of the uphill battle.)

 

[vegaspaul82]

Try This link

HOME | Hallball

www.hallballevents.com

 

[SHUSource]

Try This link

HOME | Hallball

www.hallballevents.com

Same (although Chrome is no longer citing porn as the reason, so that's an improvement).

 

[setonball46]

Link seems to work..

 

[donnie_baseball]

Thank you. I will contribute when I see things being run correctly. Please don't tell me how I should spend my money. Right now it's a mess and it doesn't look like it's get any better anytime soon.

What a clown.

 

[HallX2]

The comments here are extraordinarily depressing. Sad how many alums carry so many complaints and gripes about their time at SHU and about how things are run. Want things to improve? Help with the $$$$.

 

[SHUSource]

Link seems to work..

It's definitely my work firewall, but it almost never flags anything, so it was weird.

 

[thehall07]

The comments here are extraordinarily depressing. Sad how many alums carry so many complaints and gripes about their time at SHU and about how things are run. Want things to improve? Help with the $$$$.

Love my time there but the NIL situation is a mess and mainly because of head in the sand leadership. Remember when we couldn’t do anything because of some fake law that wouldn’t go into effect for 5 years !?! Feedback is needed just as much as $$ is.

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

The comments here are extraordinarily depressing. Sad how many alums carry so many complaints and gripes about their time at SHU and about how things are run. Want things to improve? Help with the $$$$.

I loved my time at Seton Hall, no problem there at all. My only “complaints and gripes” are that Seton Hall seems wildly afraid of success and anything having to do with insuring that our Pirates and our university reaches its full potential, especially when it comes to athletics and fundraising (among other things).

 

[HallX2]

I loved my time at Seton Hall, no problem there at all. My only “complaints and gripes” are that Seton Hall seems wildly afraid of success and anything having to do with insuring that our Pirates and our university reaches its full potential, especially when it comes to athletics and fundraising (among other things).

8% giving rate. It’s abysmal. And it limits what the university can do. It’s really as simple as that.

 

[HallX2]

Love my time there but the NIL situation is a mess and mainly because of head in the sand leadership. Remember when we couldn’t do anything because of some fake law that wouldn’t go into effect for 5 years !?! Feedback is needed just as much as $$ is.

Sorry. But we have had pathetic giving. 8%. It’s amazingly bad.

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

8% giving rate. It’s abysmal. And it limits what the university can do. It’s really as simple as that.

Agreed! It’s horrible. We desperately need fundraising people across the board who know how to fundraise! We currently do not have such people. We also need an aggressive capital campaign. How does any university go 15-20 years and numerous presidents without such an endeavor? That just blows my mind.

 

[HALL85]

There are some very impressive universities that also have single digit giving rates. It’s really a matter of strategy and priorities.

When I look at our fundraising efforts and outreach, it’s pretty obvious that this has not been a major area of focus for the university. You can’t blame the alumni.

Some people have a connection to the university and have contributed financially without any request from the school. That’s the low hanging fruit. Which ever strategies you pursue, there’s an investment that goes with it. You can focus on students when they first come on campus, for instance. I was speaking to someone this past week, who was hired to focus on successful international alumni (which this university has a ton). They also have an 8% giving rate, are much larger with highly successful alumni (higher ranked than SHU). They have not prioritized development previously. Im not sure the two are connected, but they had a pretty large endowment that was mismanaged and led to some significant losses when everybody else was growing.

 

[HallX2]

Agreed! It’s horrible. We desperately need fundraising people across the board who know how to fundraise! We currently do not have such people. We also need an aggressive capital campaign. How does any university go 15-20 years and numerous presidents without such an endeavor? That just blows my mind.

They have not always had the right people I concede. But I believe that Jon P is the right person and he has had success in the past 2 years. If you don’t know he is an alum, former athlete and his child is now attending the University. He’s great and bleeds blue. But how many here even give?

 

[walshtrips]

Communication, communication, communication, followed by appreciation.

 

[chickenbox]

It's definitely my work firewall, but it almost never flags anything, so it was weird.

Not even all the porn?

 

[Njdevils1213]

The comments here are extraordinarily depressing. Sad how many alums carry so many complaints and gripes about their time at SHU and about how things are run. Want things to improve? Help with the $$$$.

Yes, let’s let the alumni keep digging out the supposed professionals making hundreds of thousands dollars at the university for not doing their jobs.

Makes perfect sense. Things aren’t going to improve if we have inept people not doing their jobs and keep collecting a paycheck

 

[Halldan1]

The hiring of Mike P, Mike McBride and Mike Frungillo along with the efforts of Mike Walsh FINALLY have us headed in the right direction. Those that are complaining about the past have every right. But I ask that you show some patience as that is now changing and you will see results very soon.

Many points posted in this thread are valid and said complaints are being read every day by those in a position to change them. You may not agree but your voices are being heard. That's an important first step.

There is a lot going on behind the scenes that few here are aware of. But you will be soon.

BTW, in the short time this thread has existed check out the new total above re the Challenge. We are nearing $200,000.00 and that is because of you on this board.

Keep it coming. The results will be worth it.

 

[Hall Is Life]

Will we get to see how much of the $350k came from HHOD? More importantly, once we inevitably hit the $350k matching goal, HallBall should publicly admit their wrongdoings and thank HHOD for bailing them out. They won’t, but they should. As many have mentioned, they’re only now coming to us when they ran out of options and realized they were out of time.

Mike W— good on you for doing the right thing and supporting the embarrassment that is HallBall. Many wouldn’t give a cent to someone who only caters to the elite. You have once again shown your true, loyal, Seton Hall-first colors and I could not be more grateful. I will certainly be donating to help us meet the goal.

HallBall— if you’re reading this, shame on you! Leadership is not taught. Leadership is not bought. Leadership is earned. And you have not earned it. Step down. But first, enjoy that $5k golf outing. Sure to be a blast! How long until they need us to buy tee times because not enough people could pony up $5k for an at-most $500 event? LOL.

HHOD— once again, THANK YOU!

 

[Halldan1]

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

The hiring of Mike P, Mike McBride and Mike Frungillo along with the efforts of Mike Walsh FINALLY have us headed in the right direction. Those that are complaining about the past have every right. But I ask that you show some patience as that is now changing and you will see results very soon.

Many points posted in this thread are valid and said complaints are being read every day by those in a position to change them. You may not agree but your voices are being heard. That's an important first step.

There is a lot going on behind the scenes that few here are aware of. But you will be soon.

BTW, in the short time this thread has existed check out the new total above re the Challenge. We are nearing $200,000.00 and that is because of you on this board.

Keep it coming. The results will be worth it.

Not trying to be a wise-ass here but can you define “very soon”? Mike McBride is still new and certainly deserves time to get his feet wet and understand the disaster he’s walked in to. That said, we’ve already lost two years and need to catch up in a hurry. We can’t lose another year due to the ineptness of a small handful of people who have a stranglehold on our future. Changes need to be made now. Classes start in a few weeks and the season will be here before we know it. “Very soon” needs to be September 2023. We can’t have this turn into the same shitshow the practice facility announcement turned into because that would make “very soon” about September 2030 if we are lucky. We can’t wait that long! Hurry up and wait cannot continue to be our tagline.

Hoping and praying that Mike McBride can bring a lot of that SEC and Auburn magic to Seton Hall! We can certainly use it!

 

[SHUSource]

Not even all the porn?

Not sure ... let's see! Oh, wait...

 

[SOBO1]

More importantly, once we inevitably hit the $350k matching goal,

I don’t think it’s inevitable. We have 2 weeks to raise another $150k. I don’t think that’s guaranteed to happen.

Unless something has changed, from what has been explained to me this is a true matching campaign. This isn’t one of those fugazi marketing gimmicks where someone donated $350k and the school frames it as a matching campaign to generate more donations.

 

[sami]

But first, enjoy that $5k golf outing. Sure to be a blast! How long until they need us to buy tee times because not enough people could pony up $5k for an at-most $500 event? LOL

Yet another post misunderstanding what this event is. It’s like 4-5 foursomes raising $80-100k. If 4 more people signed up, there would be another foursome. If 4 fewer, it would be one fewer foursome.

I guess conceptually people have a hard time understanding that it is 3 members hosting guests, paying guest fees for a round of golf and then hosting dinner. And the guests are footing a donation.

So no, sadly, I don’t think they’ll be reaching out to you to buy a $500 tee time. You will be missed though.

 

[Hall Is Life]

Yet another post misunderstanding what this event is. It’s like 4-5 foursomes raising $80-100k. If 4 more people signed up, there would be another foursome. If 4 fewer, it would be one fewer foursome.

I guess conceptually people have a hard time understanding that it is 3 members hosting guests, paying guest fees for a round of golf and then hosting dinner. And the guests are footing a donation.

So no, sadly, I don’t think they’ll be reaching out to you to buy a $500 tee time. You will be missed though.

LOL. They’re marketing the golf outing 10x harder than they marketed the $350k matching campaign. But go on and explain to me how math works.

 

[shu09]

Yet another post misunderstanding what this event is. It’s like 4-5 foursomes raising $80-100k. If 4 more people signed up, there would be another foursome. If 4 fewer, it would be one fewer foursome.

I guess conceptually people have a hard time understanding that it is 3 members hosting guests, paying guest fees for a round of golf and then hosting dinner. And the guests are footing a donation.

So no, sadly, I don’t think they’ll be reaching out to you to buy a $500 tee time. You will be missed though.

So if it's only 4-5 groups, why are they promoting it for all to see and sign up? Sound like something that should be kept within SH's good ol' boys club instead of promoted to the general working class public.

 

[Hall Is Life]

I don’t think it’s inevitable. We have 2 weeks to raise another $150k. I don’t think that’s guaranteed to happen.

Unless something has changed, from what has been explained to me this is a true matching campaign. This isn’t one of those fugazi marketing gimmicks where someone donated $350k and the school frames it as a matching campaign to generate more donations.

My fingers are crossed. It would be a shame to let this go to waste. Now that Dan has brought the message here, we tend to do our part. Let’s see what kind of push we can make. And as usual, we will have to do the marketing for HallBall.

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

My fingers are crossed. It would be a shame to let this go to waste. Now that Dan has brought the message here, we tend to do our part. Let’s see what kind of push we can make. And as usual, we will have to do the marketing for HallBall.

HHOD will do all the heavy lifting and Hall Ball will take all the credit. Insane.