EO on Birthright Citizenship
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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Clearly unconstitutional.
Clearly unconstitutional.
Why do I get the sense that some of the so-called Textualists on the Supreme Court are going to decide it's actually not unconstitutional?
Here's the comedy of it. The parents are illegal aliens. ILLEGAL is the key word. Do you send them to jail and let the child raise himself or herself? ILLEGAL has to matter. You get chaos when you don't punish illegal activities. The EO is stupid but come down harsh on the illegal aliens. Make them not want to come here and give birth.
I am completely opposed to it as well. But I'm also opposed to illegal aliens coming here just to give birth. Punish the illegal aliens. THEY ARE ILLEGAL.
Does that fact sway your opinion? It doesn't sway mine one bit. It's illegal for me to go around grabbing ladies asses. If I did that, for my illegal conduct I will be punished. Why should these others get away for their illegal conduct.
Because I lean right does that mean I must agree with all things Reagan or am I allowed to think for myself. I suggest you give it a shot
That's the question which will decide whether this is constitutional or not. Are illegal aliens and their offspring considered "persons?" That's for the courts to decide.
I think this should be done through the constitutional process, certainly not through executive order. I do support ending it only for children of illegal aliens. The parents should have to be legal citizens in order for their children to be granted US citizenship.
The court has been pretty clear there already and it's not really a close call. If a person is in the US, under US jurisdiction and has a child, the child is a US citizen.
I'm in agreement with you there.
I think the amendment is no longer serving the purpose it was intended for and it should be amended.
Why do sympathizers on this issue always default to, "but, but, but!, they did this! They did that! They're productive!" If they're so smart and productive, take the time to become a citizen. It's not that hard. That's all we ask - become a legal US citizen. Get in line and do it the right way.
Good segment on NN (Cuomo) tonight with Steven A Smith and Bill O’Reilly discussing EO identifying cartels as terrorist organizations. Freezing assets and US military actions…bold move if Trump pulls the trigger, and it would paralyze dealers in U.S.
the right way? she is a US citizen. the way it states in the 14th amendment. seemed right and all checked out.
the majority of people are like that.
Most of these EO’s were done to publicly thank his base. Such is the case with recent Presidents but Trump takes it to another level.
Encouraged that efforts are starting immediately.
- “Border Czar” does not require Senate confirmation so Homan has been organizing plan for weeks.
- Reports that buses of Mexican nationals being bussed back today.
- Military assets already deployed to the gulf and border.
- Remain in Mexico in place.
- Cory Booker signaled last night that he wants to work with administration on comprehensive immigration deal.
At the end of the day it will be about results. But this is why Trump got elected. Why anyone would be surprised?
YES you get it now. Go through the process the right way. Whether it's entering the country or changing an amendment. Do it the right way. Don't show up here illegally and have a kid. It's not like you don't know when the 9th month is.
