Ferguson

[Merge]

Originally posted by HALL85:

The reason the NY Officer didn't get indicted is because the Prosecutor asked for one charge that testimony and evidence did not support. If he had either offered multiple options or a lessor charge, like reckless endangerment, it would have likely gone to trial. If you want to rip the legal system and prosecutor, go ahead, but that's why there was no indictment....but than again, no one reads the detail anymore.

That is my point 85.
The prosecutor asked for the one charge that they knew they would not get.
Negligent homicide seemed like a slam dunk.

Why should we believe in this system that gives a prosecutor so much power?

 

[HALL85]

And if you want to be completely honest, all five officers and the sargent (who was a black female) should all have been indicted. The headlock didn't kill Garner...the weight of the officers sitting on him did and they were all involved. The sargent was right there and could have easily ordered them to stop when she heard him say "I can't breathe".....this however would not keep it as a racially charged issue which is all the press and politicians want to make it!

 

[Old_alum]

Originally posted by Merge:

Originally posted by Old_alum:

Please explain how the import of whether or not Wilson knew the particulars of the robbery which had taken place in a specific store is essential to justice in the shooting of Brown.

If I didn't see his Sargent contradict him, it would not be important at all.

IF... and just go with me on this one... If Wilson lied about his knowledge of the robbery, would you think it is important?

As discussed above, almost anyone who professionally interviews others should know from experience that 100% congruence is unheard of and that 50%-80% can be considered excellent.

As discussed above, there have been many scientific studies which show that often people cannot repeat their own experience with 90% validity!

NO system can be 100%.

We are seeking optimal, not perfect.

You have read a few of 10,000 pages of transcripts, and see a ''discrepancy'' which I believe --- and I think you, too, believe --- is virtually inconsequential to Wilson's culpability in shooting Brown.

I expect there to be scores or hundreds of --- or even 20,000 --- inconsistencies in such transcripts. Most are either "misrememberances" or oversights. Most are merely perspective: you said X0 but I thought I heard you say Xo. In this case, the only discrepancies I would dig into are those which might impact Wilson's culpability. IMO these would NOT include Wilson's knowledge of the specifics of an antecedent event.

From reading a few of 10,000 pages neither you nor I know whether or not someone identified and dug into this discrepancy or into any other. That would be somewhere else in the 10,000 pages.

Again, our system is the worst except for all of the others.

If you want to tilt at windmills, have at Don Q!

But please do not extrapolate minor verbal inconsistencies into an indictable offense.

 

[Old_alum]

Originally posted by Merge:

There is a discussion currently saying that prosecutors do not fully attempt to indict police officer's since they have to work with them so frequently.

I am questioning the process. Nothing wrong with that.

There are professionals who do not always do exactly what they should do, because there is a conflict of interest (most often greed or laziness), and you can most likely find them in every office in every city on every day of every year. I'll bet even in your place of work.

I applaud your quest for the right.

But please do not indict the whole system because of particular bad actors. If you suspect bad actors, please make sure you are informed and correct before you venture forth on your quest.

Then have at it, Don Q!

 

[Merge]

Alright guys. I give, you win.

On to Wichita State!

 

[HALL85]

Originally posted by Merge:
Alright guys. I give, you win.

On to Wichita State!

Not until you agree that the ACA is a piece of crap...lol.

Re: Wichita...I can't remember the last time I was so pumped to watch a game because it actually meant something for SHU on a national level.