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When you have no teeth you can't bite.
NCAA President Charlie Baker
The only way to restore order is the NIL deals, ironically. The transfer stuff is worse than the money IMO.
...but you can suck!When you have no teeth you can't bite.
NCAA President Charlie Baker
Sad that an organizations launched to help protect the health of amateur athletes has been eviscerated by the free market and greed and those with no regard for the schools, common sense, education, etc.When you have no teeth you can't bite.
NCAA President Charlie Baker
We visited the NCAA headquarters while at the NIT recently and this notable history is at the entrance, with a sculpture of the brutal flying wedge in football that was outlawed.
The NCAA dates its formation to two White House conferences convened by President Theodore Roosevelt in the early 20th century in response to repeated injuries and deaths in college football which had "prompted many college and universities to discontinue the sport."
What's transpired with NIL, gambling, wholesale athlete transfers, is a different kind of mayhem but just as brutal for the long-term health of the sport and its member schools.
But it's run by the schools.
That is what everyone keeps missing. The schools if they could ever get together could put a stop to this as long as the players get paid. It won't be easy but the schools agree to the NCAA rules then some of them lobby their local politicians and get the rules changed so it will benefit their schools or conferences. It's worse than Congress if that is even possible.
And the schools are only furthering and encouraging this with supporting pay-for-play collectives. Yes, they are not "associated" with the schools, but most every question posted to Mcbride is about NIL.
Agree, the schools pay the freight, but the lawsuits and bills incurred by the NCAA by these antitrust have been enormous. It's a no win at this point unless the schools band together with some top legal minds and come up with a great counter to all of this.
Yes, they are in a catch-22. The revenue sports contribute to and support to all other sports along with Pirate Blue and other donations. So of course you need drive this current engine until something g changes.
If some lawsuit comes along and says NIL spending for women sports needs to match what is spent for men, that will likely be untenable for many places including Seton Hall as we may no longer be able to afford to put forth the seven or so minimum D 1 sports each for M & W to compete in Div. 1 NCAA athletics.
But it's the free enterprise market now, right? So can't have it both ways. Insane times for sure.
the donors, don't want to put money into a one year guy unless he goes nba. the fans don't wanna pay money for guys that are leaving after the season.
Prohibiting in season transfers is unconstitutional and will be struck down by the supreme court.
I dont understand how that could be unconstituional. There must be a huge penumbra that that's hiding under.
I just don’t see the schools banding together because they are not all aligned. The P5 state schools can operate and outlast everyone else in the short term. It’s a money grab and the rich just want a bigger piece of the pie and more control long term.
Where do academics fit this plan? We know the answer to that.
If a player transfer after the Fall semester and enrolls in another school, I don't see how the NCAA can say that player has to sit out. After all , the player is continuing his education and moving toward a degree.
Legally if the NCAA can't make a transfer sit out then how would this be different.
Legally if the NCAA can't make a transfer sit out then how would this be different.
I'm baffled how all these anti-trust and employer-employee cases are being applied to college students.
What a sh*t sandwich. Maybe it's better that it get completely out of control so there will be a push to fix it.
As usual, the timing of this whole mess couldn't have been worse for SHU/Holloway.
What a sh*t sandwich. Maybe it's better that it get completely out of control so there will be a push to fix it.
As usual, the timing of this whole mess couldn't have been worse for SHU/Holloway.
I think the thought process is that there would be a buyout, similar to a coach's contract. That is what I've ssen suggested on social media.
They're employees of somebody. And soon they'll be able to leave after the Fall semester.
They are employees of certain fan-bases too, when you consider fan-bases are being asked to pay for them, at least in part.
So then we or the school can fire a player who is under-performing? It works in the business world so why not in this case--it's a business & they are now employees!
This whole thing blows my mind. You are 100% right but could you imagine had we "fired" Dawes after the fall semester?
If they were employees of the school things would have been much easier but the schools have avoided that for years holding onto the BS thought that they are amateur student athletes. For the money sports, they are not. The schools didn't want them to be employees and that is how we got here. The schools have mismanaged this and the NCAA is an extension of the schools. Without the schools the NCAA does not exist.
Won't they just decouple the education part from the sports part at some point? So people can continue to root for their school's team, but no one has to worry about the pretense of student-athletes and such. And I presume wouldn't have to worry about title IX and other inconvenient restrictions, either.
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