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Game Thread: Seton Hall vs. Monmouth

LOL this loss is so bad that I can’t even take any pleasure from unranked and thoroughly mediocre Michigan upsetting THE ohio state university on their home field! I guess the two upsets are pretty comparable in terms of size.
the saddest take from this Game was that the Hall never truly challenged --I am still shaking my head --was anything done at half-time? Pirates walking ball up Court with 6 minutes left and sitting back waiting for Monmouth to walk it up??
 
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If you haven’t donated don’t b*tch
Gotta say…I’m seriously rethinking that at this point.

I could burn money in my backyard and get more out of it than this.

And I’ve participated in MANY of the NIL fund raising ideas…but this was embarrassing.
 
the saddest tke from this Game was that the Hall never truly challenged --I am still shaking my head --was anything done at half-time? Pirated walking ball up Court with 6 minutes left and sitting back waiting for Monmouth to walk it up??
Yeah. Usually when we get down against a poor team, you know, at some point, we’re gonna make a predictable run at taking back control. Throughout the years, as underwhelming as we may have played in some of these types of games, you can count on the run or the mounting of an attempt to make things close or steal it at the end - to squeeze out a win in a game we should have won comfortably. This time I just felt in my heart that there would be nothing…..and there wasn’t.
 
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What? Willard left the cupboard bare? I’m confused he left a ton of talent on that team
You should be confused if you think he left a ton of talent.

Willard jumped a burning ship. How was his freshman class from that year? Conway, Powell and Weston sucked and went down in competition.

Samuel and Richmond were the only quality holdovers. Harris was damaged goods with the shoulder. Jackson was better when he didn’t play

Having Robinson, Theodore, Pope, Polynice…not even counting some contribution from Hazell after he got sort of healthy.

It isn’t even close what each was coming into.

This season is on Sha no question. But to think Willard didn’t blow it with a surefire NCAA quality team is simply not understanding basketball
 
You should be confused if you think he left a ton of talent.

Willard jumped a burning ship. How was his freshman class from that year? Conway, Powell and Weston sucked and went down in competition.

Samuel and Richmond were the only quality holdovers. Harris was damaged goods with the shoulder. Jackson was better when he didn’t play

Having Robinson, Theodore, Pope, Polynice…not even counting some contribution from Hazell after he got sort of healthy.

It isn’t even close what each was coming into.

This season is on Sha no question. But to think Willard didn’t blow it with a surefire NCAA quality team is simply not understanding basketball
I’d love to do a comparison. Center was Pope and Samuel. Pope flatlined 5 months prior to the season Samuel was a guy who roamed the perimeter and was forced to play the 5. Not sure either gets an edge. Both had junior PGs in Theodore and Richmond. It’s actually scary how close both of their stats were their sophomore and junior years. Hazell should’ve been the difference maker except he was hurt a good chunk of the year. Jeff Robinson was a 4 in a 2s body. With foot speed Tray Jackson could be a 2 in a 4s body. Then they both brought in graduate transfers in polynice and ndefo.

Gotta say I think what they were left was very similar. Crazy to me some think one was left a stacked roster and the other was left a bare cupboard.
 
I’d love to do a comparison. Center was Pope and Samuel. Pope flatlined 5 months prior to the season Samuel was a guy who roamed the perimeter and was forced to play the 5. Not sure either gets an edge. Both had junior PGs in Theodore and Richmond. It’s actually scary how close both of their stats were their sophomore and junior years. Hazell should’ve been the difference maker except he was hurt a good chunk of the year. Jeff Robinson was a 4 in a 2s body. With foot speed Tray Jackson could be a 2 in a 4s body. Then they both brought in graduate transfers in polynice and ndefo.

Gotta say I think what they were left was very similar. Crazy to think some think one was left a stacked roster and the other was left a bare cupboard.
Tray Jackson was a bad player. Can’t paint that any other way. Robinson was just more productive. Undebatable. That isn’t a wash 😂

if you think Pope was the same as Samuel coming into their respective seasons with Willard and Sha, you’re not really knowledgeable.

Pope was a rebounding machine and Samuel was not a starter before his year with Sha. Samuel (and Kadary) blossomed under Sha

For Willard, add in a veteran presence with Keon Lawrence (I know you’ll bring up the drunk driving incident, but that was under KW’s watch) plus production from Hazell and it isn’t close.

It isn’t.
 
Willard jumped a burning ship. How was his freshman class from that year? Conway, Powell and Weston sucked and went down in competition.

The same as every other freshman class he had other the class of 2014. They all sat on the bench, developing waiting their turn. The class of Cale and Mamu didn’t see the court much because of 4 seniors and Powell. Rhoden and Nelson barely saw the court as freshmen. Tyrese was a backup. Willard’s whole recruiting philosophy was getting transfers and not being young. Willard was building with a lot of transfers once he started winning. The cupboard was supposedly bare in 2019 after the class of 2014 graduated
 
Tray Jackson was a bad player. Can’t paint that any other way. Robinson was just more productive. Undebatable. That isn’t a wash 😂

if you think Pope was the same as Samuel coming into their respective seasons with Willard and Sha, you’re not really knowledgeable.

Pope was a rebounding machine and Samuel was not a starter before his year with Sha. Samuel (and Kadary) blossomed under Sha
You and I would sign up for Tray Jackson on this team right now. He was a streaky shooter. He won us the game up at Michigan. He was on fire out a Xavier that year. He had his purpose.

Robinson shot 3s all year and just wasn’t good at them. But in all fairness that year was by far his best shooting from 3 in college.

Check the date of the drunk driving incident. Willard was at Iona that year Mr. Knowledgeable. I was in the Caribbean when it happened and I remember I landed 3 hours before Harvey hit the half court winner vs SPU.

Hazell injured his hand in November and was shot right after Christmas. The season was over by the time of his production end of January.
 
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