I could be wrong but I think it's the state colleges who consistently run in the red. For the other Big East schools not counting Uconn, their MBB programs basically fund the other sports both directly & indirectly. Another advantage we have is the limited amount of other sports we offer. I would think that football & WCBB might also be a drain when it comes to rev. sharing/NIL at Uconn.
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I could be wrong but I think it's the state colleges who consistently run in the red. For the other Big East schools not counting Uconn, their MBB programs basically fund the other sports both directly & indirectly. Another advantage we have is the limited amount of other sports we offer. I would think that football & WCBB might also be a drain when it comes to rev. sharing/NIL at Uconn.
They're actually different pools at Connecticut.
Jim Mora made a huge push last year to improve football NIL and has been successful. The quality of players were getting has jumped up. That was a major factor in our going 9-4 last year including a bowl win over North Carolina.
The woman's team operates in its own unique world. Paige Bueckers and Azzi Fudd combined made about $2 million in NIL, and none of that came from the school.
Neither of those are taking away money from the men's basketball program.
Was Paige’s NIL tbe traditional type that kids were supposed to be able to earn under the change in rules? I’d bet it was because of her brand appeal.
Yes, but I mean she's making it the "real" way I would assume. Like Caitlin Clark did.
It was. In my view that is more legitimate NIL, because she actually brought more to the table than being a basketball player for a Connecticut.
She currently has deals with all of these companies:
- Nike: Bueckers has a player edition Nike shoe, becoming the first NIL athlete to design and launch their own. She also has a deal with Nike for other apparel and footwear.
- Gatorade: Bueckers was the first college athlete to sign a multi-year endorsement deal with Gatorade.
- Verizon: Bueckers has a partnership with Verizon, which she's used to gift her teammates new iPhones.
- Dunkin' Donuts: Bueckers is also part of the Dunkin' Donuts family.
- Unrivaled: Bueckers has signed a three-year deal with Unrivaled, a new professional 3x3 women's basketball league. This deal includes equity in the league.
- Ally Financial: Bueckers has also signed an endorsement deal with Ally Financial.
- Chegg: She is also an ambassador for the educational platform Chegg.
- StockX: Bueckers has a partnership with StockX, a platform for sneakers and other collectibles.
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This is what NIL was intended to be, not the money handout that football and men’s basketball have become.
I thought it was in this thread but didn’t someone reference that we had one or two Power 5 transfers in fold but was holding on the announcement?????
It's not strange. Seton Hall has always been terrible at our favorite phrase, reading the tea leaves, and those on this site getting information have not historically had a high success rate of being able to call them on their BS/terrible market reading.
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This is how NIL was envisioned. What has mostly transpired is nothing more than pay to play.
How UConn is preparing for revenue sharing with its athletes
Athletic director David Benedict is exploring ways to generate new revenue. Selling naming rights to Gampel Pavilion is a possibility.
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This is a detailed discussion of how the Connecticut A.D. views revenue sharing and NIL. It's a good, though long read.
Here's his thoughts about whether the big east will have an advantage under revenue sharing:
“I think the whole narrative around the fact that the Big East has this massive advantage is comical, in a way,” Benedict said. “And maybe it will play out that way. At this point, I’m very skeptical of that narrative. I’m not so sure that’s not just a narrative that is helping support individuals who are actually spreading that narrative to try to make sure they don’t fall behind, versus what the realities are. Because the suggestion that a group of universities that are getting probably 10 percent of what those [power conference] institutions are getting in media value — and we’re talking about tens of millions of dollars difference — that the schools getting 10 percent of what they are, are at a financial advantage is somewhat comical to me. The realities are, you can spend more of the cap on a particular sport. Well, you’d have to have the money first to be able to spend it. So yes, there is potential based on the formula and how things work, that you would have an easier time spending direct revenue share because you don’t have the massive investment that football requires. But you still have to have the money.
“Name me one school right now outside the Power 4 that is going to max out the cap. I’m not aware of any. It’s not because they don’t want to support their student-athletes. They’re not generating the same kind of revenue. Conferences are distributing, on the low end of the Power 4 levels, somewhere in the 40-plus million area, all the way up to the 60, 70, 80 million dollars. We get five, maybe. So how are we advantaged in that scenario, financially?"
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I would assume she’s making it the real way and the not real way. Gotta believe someone out there who is competing with UConn is saying we will give you booster money AND you can get endorsements too.
Maybe, but that doesn't take into account the NIL value of being a part of Connecticut women's basketball, playing in front of sold out arenas, with every game televised. I have to believe that if you took the same player and put them on a different team, their brand value immediately drops. There's probably only a half dozen teams in women's college basketball that are equivalent.
When you're that good, things take care of themselves. The most captivating womens basktball player in the last 30 years wouldn't have become more valuable if she left Iowa for UConn. I'll even add doing it somewhere other than UConn made her more valuable. Just like I think Steph Curry at Davidson made him more popular than Steph Curry at Duke
I'm inclined to agree with this, but Clark is an exception to this general rule. Her impact on women's college and pro basketball has been astounding.
Lawsuit waiting to happen. Who is going to determine if endorsement deals fall within a good range of compensation? I mean aren't those things negotiations and what happens if a Caleb Williams tells Wendy's he won't do it for X he wants 3X and Wendy's agrees, then the NCAA comes in and says nope that's too much you can't do it for that amount.
These rules continue to be stupid. It literally can prevent the truest form of NIL from happening.
I'm all for a player making money from a Wendy's. It's these generic collectives and billionaire alumni just paying players to play at there school which is the issue. And let people see how much extra NIL a person makes, this is big money so why isn't it regulated?
Most of these big money people have their own business. Whats the difference between them and Wendy’s. And are you going to essentially discriminate this company can use a player but the local pizzeria can’t because he might be an alum? I’m for Bunny’s being able to use SHU players for business no different than Wendy’s. Seems like lawsuits waiting to happen if Wendy’s can do it but Bunny’s can’t. To me they’re all true NIL deals.
Actually, one of the things that I think would have helped. The optimalsystem would've included a rule whereby players can't maintain eligibility if they take a NIL from a booster of the university that you play at. That ship may have sailed now, but had it been done from the get-go, I think it would've been a reasonable approach..
Please that’s so easy to get around. I’ll take my business and pay for a Rutgers player and I’ll have my buddy a Rutgers grad pay for a seton hall player. Essentially we will both help out our schools by working together.
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a Cap would help with real penalties for trying to circumvent the cap like pro sports. or have some sort of tax where after a certain point over the cap you must start distributing a portion of that money to the remaining teams IN THE NCAA who did not go over the cap. super conferences that all go over the cap wouldnt get dinged otherwise.
also reinstate transfer rules. have a sit out year, teams would then have to pay 2 years for 1 year of play. teams can officially release players however, which can result in immediate transfer.
this would make it much more fair. so fair the SEC and BIG10 would leave , which at this point seems inevitable anyway. the NBA will intervene when their players start signing with Auburn or Michigan.
I agree with you that the combination NIL and unrestricted transfers resulted in de facto free agency that is dramatically changing college basketball. I am not sure that the transfer restrictions would be legally allowed in the new era, but I do think that since schools are going to be paying kids directly, they certainly can put restrictions in the employment contract where a player would receive X for agreeing to play for one year, but X plus some premium for agreeing to play two years.
This whole just sucks and Emmert should be burned in effigy for his multiple failures that left us in this mess. The guy pretty much destroyed college athletics.
So much different than pro sports. No fan in pro sports is buying a player through "endorsements" while that is what is occuring in college sports. Pro sports don't monitor money other than what the pro team gives them. There's no need to. Here there are and who is anyone to say which money you can make or which money you can't. That's where lawsuits come in.
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