Meta ending fact-checking program

[HALL85]

Mark Zuckerberg….
"The only way that we can push back on this global trend is with the support of the U.S. government, and that's why it's been so difficult over the past four years, when even the U.S. government has pushed for censorship," Zuckerberg added. "By going after us and other American companies, it has emboldened other governments to go even further."

Dana White joining the Meta Board and we’re still two weeks from inauguration.

And Musk’s acquisition of Twitter seems like a pretty smart move these days.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...mmunity-notes-system-similar-to-x/ar-AA1x6tUi

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Mark Zuckerberg….
"The only way that we can push back on this global trend is with the support of the U.S. government, and that's why it's been so difficult over the past four years, when even the U.S. government has pushed for censorship," Zuckerberg added. "By going after us and other American companies, it has emboldened other governments to go even further."

Dana White joining the Meta Board and we’re still two weeks from inauguration.

And Musk’s acquisition of Twitter seems like a pretty smart move these days.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...mmunity-notes-system-similar-to-x/ar-AA1x6tUi

Awful

 

[jack 1970]

Zuckerberg has more business smarts than I thought he had.

 

[SHUSA]

will be too costly to staff now that trumps sworn in

 

[shu09]

Awful

So you support censorship. Why am I not surprised?

 

[HALL85]

More on Zuckerberg…

“Zuckerberg pointed to the 2024 election and Trump's defeat of Vice President Kamala Harris as a "cultural tipping point to once again prioritizing speech."”

“Zuckerberg added that he will move the content moderation team from California, with content review to be based in Texas. He added that he believes having these workers based in a place where "there is less concern about the bias of our teams" will help the company "build trust."”

https://www.newsweek.com/mark-zuckerberg-meta-donald-trump-2011184

 

[NYShoreGuy]

So you support censorship. Why am I not surprised?

I support fact reality not some piss poor conspiracy talking points and mis info

 

[HALL85]

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/08/media-information-facebook-x-instagram

MSM has only themselves to blame for decline and consumer shift. So now Musk, Zuckerberg and now Bezos now opting for open platforms because of the loss in trust of the MSM. Let’s face it, vast majority of public doesn’t want the platform to be the arbiter of truth.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/08/media-information-facebook-x-instagram

MSM has only themselves to blame for decline and consumer shift. So now Musk, Zuckerberg and now Bezos now opting for open platforms because of the loss in trust of the MSM. Let’s face it, vast majority of public doesn’t want the platform to be the arbiter of truth.

X is a right wing conspiracy shop

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

X is a right wing conspiracy shop

The Twitter was a left wing conspiracy shop

 

[shu09]

I support fact reality not some piss poor conspiracy talking points and mis info

Nice dodge.......

So you support censorship. Thanks for confirming.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

 

[SHallguy2]

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/08/media-information-facebook-x-instagram

MSM has only themselves to blame for decline and consumer shift. So now Musk, Zuckerberg and now Bezos now opting for open platforms because of the loss in trust of the MSM. Let’s face it, vast majority of public doesn’t want the platform to be the arbiter of truth.

MSM will look very different in 4 years if they still exist. Need to face the facts young people are getting there news elsewhere. Shift back to the center will be necessary in order to survive. Meantime the social media giants are moving fast as they smell blood. Network news will take the same route as newspapers and magazines. Any way you shake it, nothing it place to keep anyone honest. We will always be left to decide what is true no matter where the news originates.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

MSM will look very different in 4 years if they still exist. Need to face the facts young people are getting there news elsewhere. Shift back to the center will be necessary in order to survive. Meantime the social media giants are moving fast as they smell blood. Network news will take the same route as newspapers and magazines. Any way you shake it, nothing it place to keep anyone honest. We will always be left to decide what is true no matter where the news originates.

 

[Merge]

X is great for fast information sharing. It is not great as a reliable news source. There is a ton of nonsense on there and it's difficult to filter if you're trying to get to the truth of something. The woman burned on the NY subway is a good example of that. For days, people on twitter were sharing an image of the victim that was just made up of a woman in her 20's. Turned out to be an entirely different woman in her late 50s.

MSM as a whole isn't going anywhere as people still want news from more reliable sources than random tweets.

 

[HALL85]

X is great for fast information sharing. It is not great as a reliable news source. There is a ton of nonsense on there and it's difficult to filter if you're trying to get to the truth of something. The woman burned on the NY subway is a good example of that. For days, people on twitter were sharing an image of the victim that was just made up of a woman in her 20's. Turned out to be an entirely different woman in her late 50s.

MSM as a whole isn't going anywhere as people still want news from more reliable sources than random tweets.

But isn’t that what an open platform is? Find your trusted network on your own. Don’t let the platform act as a filter.

 

[Merge]

But isn’t that what an open platform is? Find your trusted network on your own. Don’t let the platform act as a filter.

To an extent yes, but you find your network and it starts to show you other content it thinks you might be interested in. If you're trying to find up to date information on a specific story, there is so much unreliable information to filter through. You will end up filtering to your reliable sources who will all end up being someone in MSM.

 

[HALL85]

To an extent yes, but you find your network and it starts to show you other content it thinks you might be interested in. If you're trying to find up to date information on a specific story, there is so much unreliable information to filter through. You will end up filtering to your reliable sources who will all end up being someone in MSM.

Yes, but an open platform allows you to make those choices.

By suppressing certain information and sources Meta wasn’t giving you the option.

Personally, I get very little information from X. And the only MSM source, I really watch the NewsNation because it’s by far the least biased.

 

[Merge]

By suppressing certain information and sources Meta wasn’t giving you the option.

Yeah, I think it's fair to say that Meta overcorrected.
They let the government influence what they were doing and they should not have agreed with that.

The community note feature has flaws as well, but it is far better than outright filters that block content.

 

[HALL85]

Yeah, I think it's fair to say that Meta overcorrected.
They let the government influence what they were doing and they should not have agreed with that.

The community note feature has flaws as well, but it is far better than outright filters that block content.

That’s a diplomatic way of saying they censored free speech to benefit Democrats,

Reprehensible as they tried to influence elections.

 

[Merge]

That’s a diplomatic way of saying they censored free speech to benefit Democrats,

I wouldn't agree with that.

Most of the government intervention was related to posts about Covid.
Facebook was not pressured on the Hunter laptop story, they chose to block it on their own because it looked like it could be disinformation.

 

[HALL85]

I wouldn't agree with that.

Most of the government intervention was related to posts about Covid.
Facebook was not pressured on the Hunter laptop story, they chose to block it on their own because it looked like it could be disinformation.

Whether you think they were pressured or not, they took Democratic positions on both. They put their thumb on the scale.

We can agree or disagree on the pressure which I think is naive to think not.

 

[Merge]

Whether you think they were pressured or not, they took Democratic positions on both. They put their thumb on the scale.

We can agree or disagree on the pressure which I think is naive to think not.

Naive to think the Trump administration pressured them not to allow the Hunter story? lol...
Trump was in office for the Hunter story, so... no I don't think they were pressured.
Zuckerberg on Rogan said said they just got it wrong.

He did however say they were pressured on Covid.

 

[SHallguy2]

X is great for fast information sharing. It is not great as a reliable news source. There is a ton of nonsense on there and it's difficult to filter if you're trying to get to the truth of something. The woman burned on the NY subway is a good example of that. For days, people on twitter were sharing an image of the victim that was just made up of a woman in her 20's. Turned out to be an entirely different woman in her late 50s.

MSM as a whole isn't going anywhere as people still want news from more reliable sources than random tweets.

Social media is a lot more than tweets, Joe Rogan has just under 19 million followers or subscribers, mostly 25 to 50 years of age. By comparison see below. Look at the 25 to 54 years of age. Times are a changing. Personally do you ever sit and watch a cable news show with a younger person? Have a conversation where they say I saw it on MSNBC or Fox? I bring this up because I don't know any younger people who watch the news on TV.

	Fox News	CNN
• Total Viewers:	1,458,000	481,000
• A25-54:	186,000	91,000

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Fewer young people under 30 get their news from traditional TV sources like local news broadcasts and cable news networks. Instead, they are more likely to get their news from social media, YouTube, and other digital platforms.

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• Social media:
  • Young adults are more likely to trust information from social media than other age groups.
    
    
  • According to a Pew Research Center study, 52% of adults under 30 trust information from social media, compared to 56% who trust national news organizations.
    
    
  • According to a Morning Consult Pro study, 63% of Gen Z say they use social media for news at least once a week.
    
• Local TV news:
  • Only about 20% of adults under 30 regularly watch local news broadcasts.
    
• Cable news networks:
  • According to Statista, 10% of people aged 18-34 get their news from cable news networks.

 

[HALL85]

Naive to think the Trump administration pressured them not to allow the Hunter story? lol...
Trump was in office for the Hunter story, so... no I don't think they were pressured.
Zuckerberg on Rogan said said they just got it wrong.

He did however say they were pressured on Covid.

They didn’t just get it wrong. They censored intentionally.

 

[Merge]

They didn’t just get it wrong. They censored intentionally.

Right, they thought it might be disinformation and they got it wrong by censoring it intentionally. That's what I said.
Obviously not pressured by the Trump administration to do that though.

 

[HALL85]

Right, they thought it might be disinformation and they got it wrong by censoring it intentionally. That's what I said.
Obviously not pressured by the Trump administration to do that though.

You are conflating multiple issues. One…Before Musk acquired them, Meta-intentionally censored information. Secondly, they censored information to benefit Democrats…like the Hunter laptop. Third, it certainly sounds like Zuckerberg is claiming the Biden administration pressured Meta when he was President.

 

[Merge]

You are conflating multiple issues. One…Before Musk acquired them, Meta-intentionally censored information.

I'm conflating issues? You realize Meta and X are different companies, right? Musk did not acquire Meta.

Secondly, they censored information to benefit Democrats

As they testified, they censored stories on both sides.

Third, it certainly sounds like Zuckerberg is claiming the Biden administration pressured Meta when he was President.

On a public health issue, not a political issue.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

 

[HALL85]

Ic I'm conflating issues? You realize Meta and X are different companies, right? Musk did not acquire Meta.

Correct, I meant X which actively censored information that was anti-Democrat.

As they testified, they censored stories on both sides.

Testified…lol. Meta censored stories and you’d be naive to think it was equally on both sides.

On a public health issue, not a political issue.

COVID was a public health AND political issue.

I'm conflating issues? You realize Meta and X are different companies, right? Musk did not acquire Meta.



As they testified, they censored stories on both sides.



On a public health issue, not a political issue.