NBA...WNBA....Kenosha
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The POSSIBILITY of damage to the the heart muscle was well-known in the NCAA circles, even as everything was shut down. The plan was to screen all athletes, and disqualify those at an unacceptable level of risk. I don't know what the NFL was thinking, but I have to believe their medical team is aware, too. Where is the litigation going to come from if schools and teams are getting ahead of it, prior to participation? I ask this without any snark or sarcasm.
As an aside, I was among those who thought you should have elaborated on 'echo chamber,' or kept it to yourself. If you had done the former, it probably wouldn't have snowballed into what it became.
Every athlete is an organized sport at any school level should have a heart screening as part of their physical ekg safer than radiation exposure but i know who is gonna pay for it
We got fooled he has now come back and corrected it’s not Penn state who did the test etc. Though this is what I was referring to earlier.
What minority or actual person wants to be in a room when the learning begins. They did this teaching in my sons first grade class at an international school. Before learning about racism there was no racism just kids being friends. If you are disabled do you want to be the only one in a room where folks with healthy limps are hearing about bias towards the disabled. If you are black do you want to be in the same room talking about racism. How comforting is it to be in a room where you want to be like everyone else only to find out you are different. Where does it all end, if teaching and learning about racism ends the problem, I’m all in. The more you draw attention to a problem does it go away? I wonder if all the attention creates more separatism. I was born and raised in Montclair, no matter where I went their were folks from all walks of life. We treated each Other fairly. Everyone got along just fine, and I mean that. Maybe just the act of integration would help solve racism. My friends who were from areas where everyone looked the same had serious white guilt issues. They still do, many are marching with BLM. I just question what we hope to gain. I think we have more to gain from policy changes, inner city education choice, police awareness campaigns. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words.
I feel like the ideological subversion is here now. Despite access to information everywhere people can't agree on how many Genders there are , let alone Covid facts or Racism. Very disheartening.
the words of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to Canada in 1970.
In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that there's a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and "demoralization". It's a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit.
Bezmenov made the point that the work of the KGB mainly does not involve espionage, despite what our popular culture may tell us. Most of the work, 85% of it, was "a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare."
What does that mean? Bezmenov explained that the most striking thing about ideological subversion is that it happens in the open as a legitimate process. "You can see it with your own eyes," he said. The American media would be able to see it, if it just focused on it.
Here's how he further defined ideological subversion:
"What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country."
In what is perhaps a most striking passage in the interview, here's how Bezmenov described the state of a "demoralized" person:
"As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore," said Bezmenov. "A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him [a] concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it, until he [receives] a kick in his fan-bottom. When a military boot crashes his balls then he will understand. But not before that. That's the [tragedy] of the situation of demoralization."
It's hard not to see in that the state of many modern Americans. We have become a society of polarized tribes, with some people flat out rejecting facts in favor of narratives and opinions.
bigthink.com
the words of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to Canada in 1970.
In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that there's a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and "demoralization". It's a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit.
Bezmenov made the point that the work of the KGB mainly does not involve espionage, despite what our popular culture may tell us. Most of the work, 85% of it, was "a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare."
What does that mean? Bezmenov explained that the most striking thing about ideological subversion is that it happens in the open as a legitimate process. "You can see it with your own eyes," he said. The American media would be able to see it, if it just focused on it.
Here's how he further defined ideological subversion:
"What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country."
In what is perhaps a most striking passage in the interview, here's how Bezmenov described the state of a "demoralized" person:
"As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore," said Bezmenov. "A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him [a] concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it, until he [receives] a kick in his fan-bottom. When a military boot crashes his balls then he will understand. But not before that. That's the [tragedy] of the situation of demoralization."
It's hard not to see in that the state of many modern Americans. We have become a society of polarized tribes, with some people flat out rejecting facts in favor of narratives and opinions.
39 years ago, a KGB defector chillingly predicted modern America
A former KGB agent named Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov claimed in 1984 that Russia has a long-term goal of ideologically subverting the U.S.
bigthink.com
I would look at higher education entirely differently than 1st grade though.
Let kids be kids, and I agree we would all be better off with a more integrated society... but we won't all have the opportunity to grow up in one. By the time kids get to college, they are old enough to have these types of difficult discussions.
Familiarity and implicit bias are real and it's good to have an understanding of what that means. I don't disagree on policy changes, but people won't want to change anything if they don't first agree there is something worth changing. Education is a good place to start.
The more we focus on labels and something as superficial as skin color, it will continue to be an issue that divides and deflects from more important issues. Would rather see us teach more about history so we can better understand the context and learn from it.
I believe science says 2 genders. But the rest of the world who says follow the science, can't afford to lose votes and say follow the science on that issue.
All of this stuff, including the myth of "systemic racism" just divides people even more. But it's part of the plan that a certain faction who crave power and control have put into place.
I feel like the ideological subversion is here now. Despite access to information everywhere people can't agree on how many Genders there are , let alone Covid facts or Racism. Very disheartening.
the words of Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov, a former KGB agent who defected to Canada in 1970.
In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that there's a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and "demoralization". It's a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit.
Bezmenov made the point that the work of the KGB mainly does not involve espionage, despite what our popular culture may tell us. Most of the work, 85% of it, was "a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare."
What does that mean? Bezmenov explained that the most striking thing about ideological subversion is that it happens in the open as a legitimate process. "You can see it with your own eyes," he said. The American media would be able to see it, if it just focused on it.
Here's how he further defined ideological subversion:
"What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country."
In what is perhaps a most striking passage in the interview, here's how Bezmenov described the state of a "demoralized" person:
"As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore," said Bezmenov. "A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him [a] concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it, until he [receives] a kick in his fan-bottom. When a military boot crashes his balls then he will understand. But not before that. That's the [tragedy] of the situation of demoralization."
It's hard not to see in that the state of many modern Americans. We have become a society of polarized tribes, with some people flat out rejecting facts in favor of narratives and opinions.
39 years ago, a KGB defector chillingly predicted modern America
A former KGB agent named Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov claimed in 1984 that Russia has a long-term goal of ideologically subverting the U.S.
And with social media today and the “traditional” media either being far left or far right, this strategy is fully weaponized.
Regardless of what the term is, science says there's only 2 of them. Liberals have the number in the 60s.
There are 2 biological sexes. Science agrees with that.
Gender is a little different and it is not a scientific term, but there is likely some form of mental illness involved for people who identify other than how they were born.
It’s not something I really understand honestly, though doesn’t really impact anything if someone asks me to call them something else.
You need to go back to Staten Island Medical School.
The studies have not borne out that every athlete in high intensity sports -- let alone ANY organized sport at ANY level -- should have ECG screening. It's been looked at EXTENSIVELY. Not sure what radiation exposure has to do with any (these cardiac MRI's have zero). And, yes, WHO is going to pay for it? Should the cardiologists, who spent most of their 20's and 30's training and spend nights, weekends, and holidays in the hospital do it for free? Maybe you should start an endowment.
I can easily find many quick sources for active pediatric and adolescent heart screening programs. You know the cardiologists are reading imaging results or the technical summary of a diagnostic test and not giving those screenings themselves.
I feel health care in usa is severly broken. But doctors and insurance companies wont make big money with more preventive maintenance to patients.
You must be a clock watcher at your center what do you tell a physical rehab patient in the middle of finishing a resistance drill sorry times up you gotta go?
You are so compelled with SI references. Did the Wu-Tang Clan bully you while you were younger?
As for costs and payments that is a fair point. I would suggest team fundraising and perhaps local medical practicies and diagnostic centers can work in tandem with schools and childrens families.
i understand testing is specialized and any medical specialist of an organ or body system has years of education, internship and should be compensated for time and inferred experience but parents shouldnt have to decide whether to pay rent/mortage utilties and food or test for a child's abnormality or congenital defect.
Healthcare or the cost of it? If you think the care is broken here you haven’t traveled much or you must really look down upon other countries.
I'm sure you can Google sources, that's how you got your doctorate. Because programs exist doesn't mean that the studies say it is necessary, or cost-efficient, to find that 1-in-250,000 congenital defect. In fact, they argue against it (ACSM, AMSSM). I do know that the cardiologists are interpreting the tests, and that makes up the bulk of the cost. And you're wrong (again) about insurance companies not making "big bucks" with preventative maintenance. On the contrary, they offer incentives to patients who actively participate in preventive maintenance, as it SAVES them money instead of paying for the guy with the MI who needs a CABG or the woman with years of breast cancer treatments. You do realize that the insurance company pays the bulk of the "big bucks" when someone gets really ill, right?
What "center" am I at? I'm not a physical therapist.
