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how is this relevant to what i said? i have no idea what nonsense youre saying.

That's his MO. He takes every situation and somehow turns it into people smoking and drinking. Lol.
 
I am not disagreeing with that. But I trust my immune system and the overall state of my health. I also don't like the relentless big government and corporate propaganda campaign regarding the vaccine. I don't trust that it was studied extensively enough given how it was rushed. If I get sick, there are treatments.

That's fine to trust your immune system (even though your immune system doesnt know what to do with a novel virus). Its your personal choice, just dont make shit up that the vaccines are more dangerous than going unvaccinated. There are alot of uneducated people who are believing that crap and there will be alot of preventable death this fall in these areas (aka the south)
 
its a fact for all people.

the biggest concern of anaphlyaxis is true for any vaccine and still effects only 2 in 1 million. thats .0002%. and deaths are even lower.

deaths specifically due to covid is about .005% for that age group.

theyre both a non concern. but with a 60% chance the vaccine prevents transmission it allows those people to get it and prevent their loved ones from getting covid who may be at risk.

its a prefrence. but to spout that complete BS and then say its fact, when the stats recorded in public databases say the complete opposite, thats a cosmic level of absurdity. maybe look inward first.
There have been over 1600 cases of anaphlyaxis in that age group. Look it up. It's not hard. The death numbers in that age group are negligible and that is with the inflated numbers that anyone who died with covid was counted as a covid death even if they were asymptomatic.
 
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Do you complain to the smoker or to the guy at the bar that they are weakening their immune systems making transmission easier? Do you provide them with the facts? How does that go when you tell them?

Or do you ignore them and pick and choose who you want to call out?

Your immune system has nothing to do with covid transmission. It has everything to do with the body's ability to fight once infected, although it is a novel virus.
 
I'm not saying that it isn't a personal decision.

An answer to your question about why someone would want to get vaccinated even though they are at a low risk is that they decided to be a part of broad community protection and working towards ending the pandemic.

It's also a personal decision if people should donate blood or not, but those that do are doing so for the greater good. Not individual gain. Same concept for getting vaccinated with low personal risk of adverse impacts from the virus.
Of course, but that’s something that goes into their personal decision. I donate blood regularly but I would never judge anyone whether they choose to or not.
 
As Vanderbilt wins the CWS I will never recognize them as champions without an * next to their title. They should decline to accept and offer a one game playoff when NC State clears of the bogus protocol.
 
Of course, but that’s something that goes into their personal decision. I donate blood regularly but I would never judge anyone whether they choose to or not.

I don't understand why anyone would give blood. They are at no personal risk, and giving blood comes with potential adverse reactions including vomiting, fainting, loss of consciousness, and convulsive syncope.

Of course I am kidding. Thankfully, people don't apply that line of thinking to giving blood. We are far better off because people are willing to donate blood. Just as we are far better off because people who were not at risk of Covid decided on the greater good of getting vaccinated.
 
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The FDA approves tons of things that other countries would never allow. Coca Cola has to make Mexican Coke because their country won’t allow their citizens to consume such a horrible product like high fructose corn syrup. We have it in everything because corporations make a fortune using it. The FDA isn’t exactly all pure and innocent trying to help all of us out with the health issues in this country. And if SHUSA confirms that, then it’s definitely fact. He knows everything.
To your point, there are something in the region of 200 or so chemical food additives that are approved by the FDA which are illegal in the European Union.

Given its perpetual revolving door with Big Pharma and other large industrial interests, the FDA is probably the most compromised federal agency in this country.

Case in point from two weeks ago:


Former FDA chief Hahn joins venture firm that launched Moderna

Stephen Hahn, the former Food and Drug Administration commissioner under President Donald Trump, is joining venture capital firm Flagship Pioneering as its chief medical officer, helping to lead a program focused on preventive medicine and health security.

In the event you are wondering why Hahn may wish to join Flagship:


For the fifth time since the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic in early 2020, the skyrocketing stock price of Cambridge, Massachusetts-based vaccine maker Moderna has produced a billionaire. After CEO Stéphane Bancel, chairman and cofounder Noubar Afeyan, founding investor Timothy Springer and cofounder Robert Langer, Moderna president Stephen Hoge has become the company’s latest shareholder and executive to join the three-comma-club, with an estimated $1.1 billion fortune.


Meanwhile, the previous head of the FDA, Scott Gottlieb, sits on the board of Pfizer.

What do you honestly think is the threshold for the FDA to be completely transparent about issues with the vaccines at Moderna and Pfizer?
 
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Your immune system has nothing to do with covid transmission. It has everything to do with the body's ability to fight once infected, although it is a novel virus.
I’m not a doctor so please explain if my body fights it off how can I transmit it?
 
For young men under 25 there has been an unusually high incidence of heart inflammation with the MRNA vaccine. A higher percentage than the mortality rate.

Your comparing an adverse reaction on one end to death on the other end?
Compare the death rates on both sides, or adverse reactions on both sides.
 
That's fine to trust your immune system (even though your immune system doesnt know what to do with a novel virus). Its your personal choice, just dont make shit up that the vaccines are more dangerous than going unvaccinated. There are alot of uneducated people who are believing that crap and there will be alot of preventable death this fall in these areas (aka the south)

I have never said that. What I have said is there is not zero risk to taking the vaccine.
 
I don't understand why anyone would give blood. They are at no personal risk, and giving blood comes with potential adverse reactions including vomiting, fainting, loss of consciousness, and convulsive syncope.

Of course I am kidding. Thankfully, people don't apply that line of thinking to giving blood. We are far better off because people are willing to donate blood. Just as we are far better off because people who were not at risk of Covid decided on the greater good of getting vaccinated.
Unfortunately only 2% of the population donates blood and we are in a national blood emergency. Hospitals have instituted conservation strategies…not a good time to have a major trauma because they using survivability criteria. Would be nice to see more government and media attention. One unit can save three lives.
 
Where did you get that stat about it being 60% more effective in stopping transmission?

regardless, you are doing what I am suggesting. You are making a choice based on your personal situation. If Someone doesn’t have parents or elderly in their lives, I could understand how they would think differently.
i agree. i have no problem with that
 
I’m not a doctor so please explain if my body fights it off how can I transmit it?

Lol your immune system wont stop you from getting a novel pathogen, but it will help limit the damage. While your body fights it you can transmit it.

I'd suggest revisiting high school biology for how the immune system works.
 
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Wrong. For young men under 25 there has been an unusually high incidence of heart inflammation with the MRNA vaccine. A higher percentage than the mortality rate.
and still lower than any significant covid symptom. they are really rare.
 
Unfortunately only 2% of the population donates blood and we are in a national blood emergency. Hospitals have instituted conservation strategies…not a good time to have a major trauma because they using survivability criteria. Would be nice to see more government and media attention. One unit can save three lives.
if only we opersted in a world where peoples actions dont have to benefit them 100%.
 
Lol your immune system wont stop you from getting a novel pathogen, but it will help limit the damage. While your body fights it you can transmit it.

I'd suggest revisiting high school biology for how the immune system works.
So I will learn everything about the immune system from HS biology. My doctor went to school for how many years? What a dope.
 
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Guess you won't see your parents ever again then. Too risky!
there is a line. the line is that i made an effort that makes me feel i did enough , combined with their effort. it was pretty easy and im happy with the choice. something could happen, but its unlikely to be caused by me.
 
There have been over 1600 cases of anaphlyaxis in that age group. Look it up. It's not hard. The death numbers in that age group are negligible and that is with the inflated numbers that anyone who died with covid was counted as a covid death even if they were asymptomatic.
.011% of that age group got anaphalxyis then. .0002% died of anaphalxyis. being 13.5m a18-24 have at least one dose.

.7% - 10% of people have an anaphalxyis to penicillin for reference

it is very rare to have a lethal anaphalyxis from medicine. i guess its because youre already in the presence of HCPs
 
if only we opersted in a world where peoples actions don't have to benefit them 100%.
And you could probably impact more lives directly by donating blood than getting vaccinated, but I'll wait for the blood donors to get to 68% so that everyone who is vaccine shaming can STFU.

That would be nice to live in that kind of a world, but we also have gang violence, scammers, hackers, and other criminals....
 
there is a line. the line is that i made an effort that makes me feel i did enough , combined with their effort. it was pretty easy and im happy with the choice. something could happen, but its unlikely to be caused by me.
Sounds beta to me.
 
So I will learn everything about the immune system from HS biology. My doctor went to school for how many years? What a dope.

Might want to see a new doctor (not a witch doctor) if they are telling patients your immune system can prevent infection from a novel disease lol. For real though......
 
Might want to see a new doctor (not a witch doctor) if they are telling patients your immune system can prevent infection from a novel disease lol. For real though......
Thanks but I’ll stay put and trust my doctor who is concerned about my best interest. You trust the FDA who has their own personal interests of their close friends and big businesses ahead of yours.
 
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And you could probably impact more lives directly by donating blood than getting vaccinated, but I'll wait for the blood donors to get to 68% so that everyone who is vaccine shaming can STFU.

That would be nice to live in that kind of a world, but we also have gang violence, scammers, hackers, and other criminals....
you really dont see too many blood drives considering.
 
Back to the orginal topic. Does anyone find it odd that the NC State players could probably head out to Omaha, buy a ticket, sit in the ballpark which is filled to capacity, yet they can't play in the game?
 
Go to a donor center near you…..only half collected on drives.
ive lived in nyc, philly, done a lot of work im dc, chicago, atlanta. cant remember any time ive passed a blood drive.

maybe they need better marketing because its definitely a hidden problem people dont think about.

last time i gave blood i passed out and it was not a fun experience
 
ive lived in nyc, philly, done a lot of work im dc, chicago, atlanta. cant remember any time ive passed a blood drive.

maybe they need better marketing because its definitely a hidden problem people dont think about.

last time i gave blood i passed out and it was not a fun experience
Most blood drives are not open to the public (typically sponsored by a company or school for employees or students). And you typically need an appointment in advance.

blood centers are nonprofit as well. They don’t have big marketing budgets. Obviously it’s not for you, but you clearly don’t understand how it all works.
 
Most blood drives are not open to the public (typically sponsored by a company or school for employees or students). And you typically need an appointment in advance.

blood centers are nonprofit as well. They don’t have big marketing budgets. Obviously it’s not for you, but you clearly don’t understand how it all works.
i meant blood center in my previous post.

i didnt say its not for me. im going to look into it again. unsure if the result was a one time thing or if im prone. if thats a thing. i think it was a blood sugar thing
 
i meant blood center in my previous post.

i didnt say its not for me. im going to look into it again. unsure if the result was a one time thing or if im prone. if thats a thing. i think it was a blood sugar thing
Try Google.
 
Thanks but I’ll stay put and trust my doctor who is concerned about my best interest. You trust the FDA who has their own personal interests of their close friends and big businesses ahead of yours.

Haha it's not an FDA thing for how the human immune system functions. Read a book.
 
Haha it's not an FDA thing for how the human immune system functions. Read a book.
So you understand that so much of what the FDA approves is destroying how your immune system functions and it’s their approval of the vaccine that comforts you. Nice.
 
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So you understand that so much of what the FDA approves is destroying how your immune system functions and it’s their approval of the vaccine that comforts you. Nice.

Haha what does the FDA have to do with you thinking your immune system can stop infection from a novel pathogen? That's not how your immune system works. Can you cite any data that shows your immune system can prevent infection from a pathogen it's never encountered? I'll wait...
 
Try Google.
right. the whole point is that people dont just urge to google blood donation centers. and i dont think ive ever walked by one where i could clearly tell what it was. i think youre interpreting my comments with an incorrect motive.
 
Haha what does the FDA have to do with you thinking your immune system can stop infection from a novel pathogen? That's not how your immune system works. Can you cite any data that shows your immune system can prevent infection from a pathogen it's never encountered? I'll wait...
 
right. the whole point is that people dont just urge to google blood donation centers. and i dont think ive ever walked by one where i could clearly tell what it was. i think youre interpreting my comments with an incorrect motive.
Every community has a blood center or one fairly close. If you live in Philly, the Red Cross has locations all over the city...just go to their website.

Blood centers are not like Starbucks...they aren't on every corner and aren't set up to do wallk-ins for the mostpart. If you really want to do it, it's incredibly easy to find one and schedule. That's if you are serious and really want to do it.

I know folks that donate platelets every two weeks (two dozen times a year) and have been doing it for years. Many are ex-military and understand what service is and the impact they can have by doing a selfless act. And it's perfectly safe as you are not having any drug injected.
 
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