NEC winner moving to Div III

[NYShoreGuy]

Saint Francis University Announces Move from NCAA Division I Athletics to Division III Athletics - Saint Francis University Athletics

Today, Saint Francis University announced a decision by its Board of Trustees that directs the president and the leadership team to pursue a reclassification of

sfuathletics.com

 

[walshtrips]

More to come.

 

[HallGuy23]

Smart, so many of these schools really have no business being D-1.

I’ll just never understand why D-2 barely exists.

 

[Seton75]

More to come.

Yup, when the NCAA money got bigger lots of schools upped to D1. Monmouth was not D anything when I was a kid, AAsomethingor other I think. it was NAIA??

 

[Seton75]

If a school like us sends all its hoops revenue to NIL and the program doesnt get competitive, I think at least some in charge will wonder if D1 is worth it now.

 

[HallX2]

Made me think of St Francis Brooklyn that dropped athletics completely

 

[HallX2]

If a school like us sends all its hoops revenue to NIL and the program doesnt get competitive, I think at least some in charge will wonder if D1 is worth it now.

Im Certain we will just throw more money at it.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Yup, when the NCAA money got bigger lots of schools upped to D1. Monmouth was not D anything when I was a kid, AAsomethingor other I think. AAIW??

Wasnt monmouth a 2 year juco that transformed in the 70s?

 

[hallwins]

I don’t believe so.
It was a 4 year school Monmouth College that became a University in the relatively recent past.

Monmouth's2 year county college is Brookdale Community

 

[SHUHitman]

Im Certain we will just throw more money at it.

I'm not so sure. The only thing here that eclipses ineptitude is frugality. There is a track record for both.

 

[PiratePride]

Wasnt monmouth a 2 year juco that transformed in the 70s?

It was a 2 year college until 1956. Founded in 1933. Got university status in 1995

 

[Seton75]

NYU was a basketball power and went D3 around 1970. Never was sure why they did it. Money not an issue for them. Werkman's scoring rival was NYU's Barry Kramer.

 

[LBP43]

I , personally , applaud the move by St Francis -- it will allow the school to act as a University rather than a minor league for poaching programs. Although I am not a big IVY League person , I have always admired their collective approach to Athletics and would have hoped other conferences did likewise -- that ship has sailed

 

[MBF72]

And doesn't St. Francis have a football program? Play Kent State, Dayton, Central CT., Sacred Heart, Wagner. Are they keeping football?
Visited St. Francis with my son in about 2000. In the middle of nowhere. Would imagine canning D 1 basketball might turn campus into a ghost town.

 

[hallwins]

And doesn't St. Francis have a football program? Play Kent State, Dayton, Central CT., Sacred Heart, Wagner. Are they keeping football?
Visited St. Francis with my son in about 2000. In the middle of nowhere. Would imagine canning D 1 basketball might turn campus into a ghost town.

Pioneer Conference I believe. National membership.

 

[LBP43]

And doesn't St. Francis have a football program? Play Kent State, Dayton, Central CT., Sacred Heart, Wagner. Are they keeping football?
Visited St. Francis with my son in about 2000. In the middle of nowhere. Would imagine canning D 1 basketball might turn campus into a ghost town.

MBF72 St Francis will drop it's football to Division 3 also -- the University has an endowment almost double SHU but has seen the handwriting created for Div 1 athletics

 

[SHUSource]

I deleted my Twitter account about two months ago, but it's cool that I can just doom-scroll here now.

 

[HALL85]

I don’t believe so.
It was a 4 year school Monmouth College that became a University in the relatively recent past.

Monmouth's2 year county college is Brookdale Community

Pat Leahy is the President of Monmouth and I hate to say it, but he runs circles around our entire leadership. Guy is really bright, moving up from University of Scranton, then Wilkes College before taking the Monmouth job. He has done an amazing job down there and expanding the university and fundraising. we should be so lucky.

 

[HallX2]

MBF72 St Francis will drop it's football to Division 3 also -- the University has an endowment almost double SHU but has seen the handwriting created for Div 1 athletics

Are you sure about their endowment? I recall it being considerably smaller than ours

 

[hallwins]

Pat Leahy is the President of Monmouth and I hate to say it, but he runs circles around our entire leadership. Guy is really bright, moving up from University of Scranton, then Wilkes College before taking the Monmouth job. He has done an amazing job down there and expanding the university and fundraising. we should be so lucky.

That school has had good leadership for 20 years. Gorgeous campus, improved academics and sports.

 

[LBP43]

Are you sure about their endowment? I recall it being smaller than ours

MBF72 - I got the info from a Franciscan -not a Jesuit- so it could be wrong

 

[ivyhillparkk1963]

There goes 12 d1 players that need to find a home. Some probably wont

 

[Seton75]

That school has had good leadership for 20 years. Gorgeous campus, improved academics and sports.

My wife met him at a function at Monmouth and was very impressed. Such a beautiful campus.

 

[TomD82]

Nice arena on campus. And the footbal program is not bad and has produced NFL players.

 

[HallGuy23]

MBF72 St Francis will drop it's football to Division 3 also -- the University has an endowment almost double SHU but has seen the handwriting created for Div 1 athletics

Double the endowment? Wow. When will Seton Hall and our colleagues in similar positions realize athletics isn’t worth it anymore. We’re the Tampa Bay Rays to the SEC’s L.A. Dodgers.

 

[seton1996]

Double the endowment? Wow. When will Seton Hall and our colleagues in similar positions realize athletics isn’t worth it anymore. We’re the Tampa Bay Rays to the SEC’s L.A. Dodgers.

Per Wikipedia their endowment was $51.9 million in 2020, way under SHU.

Saint Francis University - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Double the endowment? Wow. When will Seton Hall and our colleagues in similar positions realize athletics isn’t worth it anymore. We’re the Tampa Bay Rays to the SEC’s L.A. Dodgers.

Rays routinely competative they dont miss on drafts and player dev is quite good but then the guy gets traded at arbitration

 

[PJVegas]

NYU was a basketball power and went D3 around 1970. Never was sure why they did it. Money not an issue for them. Werkman's scoring rival was NYU's Barry Kramer.

Believe it had to do with a gambling scandal that NY press focused on Seton Hall to divert focus. SH stopped playing in public arenas & in season tourneys until about ‘69-‘70.