We can disagree on what you name it, but there is a heart beat and development even in the first trimester. Why are you portraying the worst possible situation. I know a couple who had fostered over 25 babies (almost all black…they are white) and have loved the experience and every one of the children had been placed with an adopting family.
Need to understand this.
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because thats the reliality of it. you think oprhaned chilren's default situation is good? not sure why it matters if they were black or white. Is it just context for one of your thousand anecdotal relationships?
i think adoption is great. and certainly still has a role for the % of people that qualify and can afford it. and most situations where someone wants an abortion will have to end up giving it up for adoption. im in favor of that.
there is something like 10 million kids currently on the street. something like 500k kids in group homes half of which waiting to be adopted. "Oftentimes, these children are the victims of child abuse, neglect, and/or abandonment. They are removed from their homes because their birth family has proven unable or unwilling to provide a safe environment for them."
awesome great. and that doesnt even account for the kids that will never live a normal life for medical reasons, financially draining the family.
there is definitely a purpose for abortion. its the minority of situations for sure. its not a binary issue.
Exactly!
Instead of focusing on the fact that people have abortions, we should be focusing on why people have abortions and working to find something that will influence a woman wanting to have one in the first place.
At what point do we say sex education in our schools is failing? Common sense. Don’t use that hole. Rubbers. Pull out. What ever happened to do the crime, you do the time. We live in a world where we don’t want consequences for our actions. Everyone wants the reward with 0 risk and consequences.
Actually, if you look at the teen pregnancy rates over the last 10-15 years, they have plummeted across all races. We are just not going to have the same number of teenagers on the streets in the next 10-15 years that we have now. I don't think this is about schools and teaching, but rather the proliferation of the smart phones and kids just becoming more secluded and not engaging in relationships. There are numerous studies that support this.
So, there are just way fewer teen pregnancies to begin with. We should be spending a lot less in general (healthcare, fostering, adopting), just because the gross numbers are so much less. This obviously also has an impact on supply and demand for unwanted babies for adoption.
Not for the birthing mother. She can often get the help she needs from the adopting couple.
yea but for the adoptees. which means more supply than demand. which means kids without families.
Have you looked at the dramatic decrease in teen pregnancies in the last 10 years? That should answer your supply/demand claim.
statement is still true. and teen pregnancies arent the only kids being put up for adoption.
then why are 50% of orphans not adopted? is teenage pregnancy the only factor at play?
hmm
It's historically the biggest factor. AND, couples are having fewer children today, meaning they are using more forms of birth control. The abortion rate depending on which source has dropped in half in the last 30 years. Their are fewer children up for adoption and that number will continue to decline while demand goes up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States
Orphans are typically not infants. Some yes, but not most. A child is orphaned at various ages for various reason. Parent(s) go to prison, parent(s) die/killed, abandonment, parents deemed unfit, neglect, etc.
Adopting a soon to be born child is different than for adopting a 10 year old.
I think both sides here are correct. There are a lot of families who would be willing to welcome a newborn, and it’s also true that there are not enough of those families now to take them all in.
