Isn’t this more typical than we all acknowledge. Were up 10 and have a hard time closing it out. St Johns almost gives it away to PC missing multiple FTs late. UCONN gets complacent late and almost lets X get back in the game. The fact is these games are tough to close out. To us fans watching from our seats it looks so easy as to what should happen but on the court, under pressure it’s not so easy for 18-23 year olds.
Net now 74
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SHU just dropped AGAIN, down to 77, dropping us out of that Quad 1 range eligibility. Amazing how we keep dropping spots after a 4-1 start in BE play. I know people say "just keep winning and it'll all work out", but it's annoying looking at other teams ahead of us with clearly worse resumes.
For example, SMU is 9-5 in the AAC, yet somehow they have a 38 NET. Their best win is against 106 NET Florida St. Our best wins are against 8 UConn, 20 Marquette, and 54 Providence. And we play in a tougher conference than the AAC. Yet somehow their NET ranking is 40 ahead of us. Just makes absolutely no sense.
For example, SMU is 9-5 in the AAC, yet somehow they have a 38 NET. Their best win is against 106 NET Florida St. Our best wins are against 8 UConn, 20 Marquette, and 54 Providence. And we play in a tougher conference than the AAC. Yet somehow their NET ranking is 40 ahead of us. Just makes absolutely no sense.
Keep getting big wins and avoid bad losses and everything will work out. Start with a win at Butler without a huge amount of turnovers and the number will go up.
We just went through a few day period where we beat a bad Georgetown team by 4 and 2 of our biggest wins Providence and Marquette dropped games. The other big teams we played USC lost, RU had a small win, Iowa didn't play and Missouri continues to lose. Not really sure how any expects us to go up under that scenario. Win enough and the numbers will take care of themselves.
Losses matter too. You can't just count the wins and ignore the losses.
Our five losses: USC (92), Iowa (68), Baylor (14), Rutgers (91) and Xavier (60) - Average NET 65
SMU's losses: Texas A&M (40), Wisconsin (12), Dayton (21), Arizona State (106) and Memphis (52) - Average NET 46.2
You can't look at Seton Hall in a vacuum. Everybody else is playing games as well. We move up and down based in part on what UCF, Syracuse and anybody else around us. We just played a team whose NET is above 200. That's a drag on our metrics. Wait until we play DePaul.
As SHUHoops noted in the post above, what our opponents do factors in on a game-by-game basis. How good will the Missouri win look in March if they go 4-14 or 5-13 in the SEC? What was PC's NET a week ago before they lost three straight? USC lost to Oregon State (NET 181) last week. Our loss to USC has a chance to look worse as the season goes on.
Finally, a lot of this is about efficiency. It's not just wins and losses. Committing 22 turnovers and following it up with a 16 turnover effort against NET 212 does not help your metrics.
The good news, we do have opportunity. Want to climb in the NET rankings? A road win against No. 50 helps the cause.
The "what channel" question is neck-and-neck with your "low iq" charges for longest running gag. Last game was a sloppy mess, but this year's team doesn't give me the low bball iq vibe.
did you watch the whole year? last two games 39 turnovers most of the unforced. dunno what all you would call it. sha basically says the same thing in his huddles. guy is doing big time work trying to get this team to play smart
The rash of turnovers recently is strange. Definitely impacted the metrics and margin of victory. Hopefully it gets cleaned up as it wasn't an issue before.
We're #76 in the NET today at 11-5, 4-1. We're 3-2 Q1, 0-2 Q2, 2-1 Q3, 6-0 Q4
Butler is #50. Can we get a crisp, double-digit win on the road? That'll help, lol.
Root for Missouri. They're only #117. Need to get them to #100 or better for a Q2 win.
Root for Rutgers too. They're at #88. Need to get them up to #75 to move that bad loss to Q2.
We're #76 in the NET today at 11-5, 4-1. We're 3-2 Q1, 0-2 Q2, 2-1 Q3, 6-0 Q4
Butler is #50. Can we get a crisp, double-digit win on the road? That'll help, lol.
Root for Missouri. They're only #117. Need to get them to #100 or better for a Q2 win.
Root for Rutgers too. They're at #88. Need to get them up to #75 to move that bad loss to Q2.
I'm just busting Shusa's chops. Yeah, the recent turnovers have been bad, and we still won both games. It hasn't been a consistent problem all year, so I'm hoping Coach Sha and the team clean it up, too.
