NEW COMMIT: AJ Staton-McCray

[Seton75]

Reading comprehension not a strong suit?

Just shows how people are so focused on going negative that they don’t realize they are doing it.

Yes!!! No one here has forgotten last year or has not read the rants (many worthwhile) about the dismal feel for the program today.

But we used to welcome kids. There will plenty of time to bitch, moan rant and rave (appropriate or not) about ... the new guy, his team or coach or staff, the black unis, the pretzels price, or any of the other 505 issues we read about. But to shut our f'ing mouths for a minute and say welcome and good luck, it wont hurt any of us.

 

[CL82]

Keep it for a later date and build the NIL pot up bigger so you can spend really big in a future year too buy an NBA roster of great players?

I would think he realizes that another year like last year and he's probably gone.

 

[SHUSource]

Reading comprehension not a strong suit?

Just shows how people are so focused on going negative that they don’t realize they are doing it.

It's a reflex for some.

 

[Hall84]

Looking at the Youtube video he seems to have a scorers mentality. Has a smooth stroke from deep and doesn't hesitate to shoot it.
I like that he often uses his left to finish at the rim and looks very comfortable and natural doing so.

 

[shu67]

The idea of intentional tanking is worse than putting a guy with dementia in the White House and lying about it. We would quite literally be tanking into the MAAC

The current plan is intentional tanking. The build a pot is not!

 

[Burnsly]

Not even close to a Jenkins replacement

You guys act like Jenkins was some kind of elite player. He was the definition of inconsistency.

 

[PF58]

Yes!!! No one here has forgotten last year or has not read the rants (many worthwhile) about the dismal feel for the program today.

But we used to welcome kids. There will plenty of time to bitch, moan rant and rave (appropriate or not) about ... the new guy, his team or coach or staff, the black unis, the pretzels price, or any of the other 505 issues we read about. But to shut our f'ing mouths for a minute and say welcome and good luck, it wont hurt any of us.

well put,,, awesome

 

[SPK145]

Looking at the Youtube video he seems to have a scorers mentality. Has a smooth stroke from deep and doesn't hesitate to shoot it.

What highlight video doesn’t show that?

 

[Hall Is Life]

Yes!!! No one here has forgotten last year or has not read the rants (many worthwhile) about the dismal feel for the program today.

But we used to welcome kids. There will plenty of time to bitch, moan rant and rave (appropriate or not) about ... the new guy, his team or coach or staff, the black unis, the pretzels price, or any of the other 505 issues we read about. But to shut our f'ing mouths for a minute and say welcome and good luck, it wont hurt any of us.

Another guy we’ll hardly get to know for 5 months. Hard to find any positivity in today’s version of college basketball.

 

[hallwins]

Another guy we’ll hardly get to know for 5 months. Hard to find any positivity in today’s version of college basketball.

To me, Bediako was one of the most likeable Pirates in just his one year. If he comes to a game, he will get a warm welcome (from the 15 fans there) and I think many feel the same way about him.

 

[shu67]

You guys act like Jenkins was some kind of elite player. He was the definition of inconsistency.

Lets see how your comments stack up:

Jenkins played in 18 games (limited due to serious injury) and averaged 11.4 points a game, 79.7% free throws, 41.1% 3 pointers, 3.9 rebounds, and only 1.7 turnovers.

Maybe not elite but pretty damn good. A number of those games were against opponents from BE and other major programs. Better results than any of his replacements.

 

[Hall Is Life]

To me, Bediako was one of the most likeable Pirates in just his one year. If he comes to a game, he will get a warm welcome (from the 15 fans there) and I think many feel the same way about him.

Agreed. Many likable and winning grad transfers over the years too. Just sucks that this is what the game has become.

 

[Fishjam]

Clark is 303. My grade is a B.
McCray is 309.. My grade is a B-.
Simpkins is 451. My grade is a C.
Rivera is 1178. My grade is a D.

That's fair. I'd say McCray is a C+. He's a good defender, has good size for a guard, good FT shooter, good finisher around the rim. Was a good player for a strong Mid-major team at Samford his last year. Bucky McMillan is a guy who likes to play a lot of guys and limit minutes for his starters and McCray never played big minutes since his freshman year. Don't know if that's due to his knee injury that wiped out his Soph year. Was ok for a terrible Miami team who's coach quit during the season.

One thing that all these players have in common is none of them are great 3-pt shooters but all are guys that attack the basket and finish well at the rim. That's clearly a skill that Sha wants in his players.

 

[NYC Pirate]

Lets see how your comments stack up:

Jenkins played in 18 games (limited due to serious injury) and averaged 11.4 points a game, 79.7% free throws, 41.1% 3 pointers, 3.9 rebounds, and only 1.7 turnovers.

Maybe not elite but pretty damn good. A number of those games were against opponents from BE and other major programs. Better results than any of his replacements.

Sha seems to have a set idea of how his roster is constructed. Jenkins had a particular style and this player looks kind if similar.

 

[Gohall129]

Sha seems to have a set idea of how his roster is constructed. Jenkins had a particular style and this player looks kind if similar.

Jenkins?! What tape are you watching? Jenkins is a much better offensive player than this kid

 

[shu67]

That's fair. I'd say McCray is a C+. He's a good defender, has good size for a guard, good FT shooter, good finisher around the rim. Was a good player for a strong Mid-major team at Samford his last year. Bucky McMillan is a guy who likes to play a lot of guys and limit minutes for his starters and McCray never played big minutes since his freshman year. Don't know if that's due to his knee injury that wiped out his Soph year. Was ok for a terrible Miami team who's coach quit during the season.

One thing that all these players have in common is none of them are great 3-pt shooters but all are guys that attack the basket and finish well at the rim. That's clearly a skill that Sha wants in his players.

You say none are not great 3 point shooters and I would say you got that somewhat wrong. They are not great and they are not good. So that leaves what? Poor or bad or fair. Let's call it correctly.

Also guys who could drive to the basket and score at the mid major level face a different reality at the next level. They are going against bigger, stronger and more athletic front court players. The results they got at the mid major level does not necessarily translate the same at the next level. In some cases yes but it's a whole new ball game.

 

[Gohall129]

You say none are not great 3 point shooters and I would say you got that somewhat wrong. They are not great and they are not good. So that leaves what? Poor or bad or fair. Let's call it correctly.

He’s a better shooter than his average at Miami showed for. Playing a role you’re not meant to be playing and put in positions to force shots makes an impact. Let’s hope Sha doesn’t use him like that here

 

[shu67]

I guess you have access to info I don't have:

These are his career 3 point shooting percentages by year with the most recent Miami first: 32.3, 41.3, 28.9, 28.6, 28.7

So you are saying toss the 32.3 at MIami and we will see he is a better shooter than his average at MIami. So that gives us: 41.3, 28.9, 28.6, 28.7

Hmmm not sure you have proven your point. The math does not lie.

 

[radecicco]

Geez, the guy’s not even here yet and the negativity is off the charts by some. But to be expected here.

 

[ivyhillparkk1963]

Geez, the guy’s not even here yet and the negativity is off the charts by some. But to be expected here.

Unbelievable negativity. Let's face it we are getting under the radar guys. Let's hope Sha and co at least don't make the same mistake as last years evaluations..

 

[shu67]

Unbelievable negativity. Let's face it we are getting under the radar guys. Let's hope Sha and co at least don't make the same mistake as last years evaluations..

Just speaking to the facts as they are easily seen and evaluated. Not attacking anyone. Just comparing facts and results of players and what the future would indicate.

 

[TheHall87]

I guess you have access to info I don't have:

These are his career 3 point shooting percentages by year with the most recent Miami first: 32.3, 41.3, 28.9, 28.6, 28.7

So you are saying toss the 32.3 at MIami and we will see he is a better shooter than his average at MIami. So that gives us: 41.3, 28.9, 28.6, 28.7

Hmmm not sure you have proven your point. The math does not lie.

If he shoots close to 41% from three, we should be happy with that.

He doesn't appear to be a high-volume shooter so we're probably not looking at a player who will shoot us out of games on his bad nights.

 

[hallwins]

Agreed. Many likable and winning grad transfers over the years too. Just sucks that this is what the game has become.

Completely agree.

 

[The_Hall]

Keep it for a later date and build the NIL pot up bigger so you can spend really big in a future year too buy an NBA roster of great players?

if this is the case it's not a bad strategy. most teams prob will trade 3 bad years for 4 good years

 

[Fishjam]

You say none are not great 3 point shooters and I would say you got that somewhat wrong. They are not great and they are not good. So that leaves what? Poor or bad or fair. Let's call it correctly.

Also guys who could drive to the basket and score at the mid major level face a different reality at the next level. They are going against bigger, stronger and more athletic front court players. The results they got at the mid major level does not necessarily translate the same at the next level. In some cases yes but it's a whole new ball game.

I just made a generalization that none are considered good 3-pt shooters. Their stats are there for all to see if you want to breakdown further. If you'd like me to go into a little more detail, the EvanMiya projected 3-point% for next season for our 4 commits is as follows:

AJ Staton-McCray 34.5% (Above-Average, 66th percentile )
TJ Simpkins 32.9% (Slightly Below Average, 42nd percentile)
Josh Rivera 30.8% (Poor, 15th percentile)
Adam Clark 30.6% (Poor, 13th percentile)

Regarding the driving to the rim, of course you must take into account the level. I was making the point that all 4 take a high percentage of their shots at the rim. That is a trait that Sha pushes. It didn't work great with this year's team because not many guys were good at attacking the rim. It seems its something that Sha is specifically looking for in players this year - for better or for worse.

 

[HALL85]

I just made a generalization that none are considered good 3-pt shooters. Their stats are there for all to see if you want to breakdown further. If you'd like me to go into a little more detail, the EvanMiya projected 3-point% for next season for our 4 commits is as follows:

AJ Staton-McCray 34.5% (Above-Average, 66th percentile )
TJ Simpkins 32.9% (Slightly Below Average, 42nd percentile)
Josh Rivera 30.8% (Poor, 15th percentile)
Adam Clark 30.6% (Poor, 13th percentile)

Regarding the driving to the rim, of course you must take into account the level. I was making the point that all 4 take a high percentage of their shots at the rim. That is a trait that Sha pushes. It didn't work great with this year's team because not many guys were good at attacking the rim. It seems its something that Sha is specifically looking for in players this year - for better or for worse.

That’s only good strategy if a), players can hit their free throws when drawing fouls, b) they can finish at the rim, and c) they have some kind of ability to pass/kick out. We just haven’t had many of those guys.

 

[radecicco]

Three of our four commits are good foul shooters. That’s a plus. So take it to the rim and hopefully get to the line. Still need a shooter and some bigs.

 

[HallLine69]

What highlight video doesn’t show that?

Which is why I almost always ignore those videos.

 

[NYC Pirate]

So, my point was Sha has a certain way he configures his roster. Obviously, the funds are not there for the big-time talent. I raised the point that Staton-McCray might fill the role that Jenkins had on last year's team. I did not say he was better. However, looking at the video highlights that I have viewed he reminds me of the style Jenkins played. Also, to be honest based on the videos I really don't see that much of a difference. Go look at the highlights of both his games against Louisville and Virginia Tech on YOU TUBE and you may see something different. I'll welcome him to The Halll for the second time in two nights. Welcome AJ.

 

[shu67]

I will welcome all the new players. That still does not translate into a better season and moving up from last place in the BE.

 

[The_Hall]

This guy seems like a decent get considering we cant tap into our money yet. Seton Hall isn't going to compete for the biggest fish.

so we get a decent guy and the haters try to bend this into being terrible.

is he elite? no. was he better than most players last year ? yes.

 

[Piratz]

Solid rotation guard. Should be ready to produce from Day 1 in that role.

But right now all these guys are starters.

 

[Piratz]

I just made a generalization that none are considered good 3-pt shooters. Their stats are there for all to see if you want to breakdown further. If you'd like me to go into a little more detail, the EvanMiya projected 3-point% for next season for our 4 commits is as follows:

AJ Staton-McCray 34.5% (Above-Average, 66th percentile )
TJ Simpkins 32.9% (Slightly Below Average, 42nd percentile)
Josh Rivera 30.8% (Poor, 15th percentile)
Adam Clark 30.6% (Poor, 13th percentile)

Regarding the driving to the rim, of course you must take into account the level. I was making the point that all 4 take a high percentage of their shots at the rim. That is a trait that Sha pushes. It didn't work great with this year's team because not many guys were good at attacking the rim. It seems its something that Sha is specifically looking for in players this year - for better or for worse.

It’s perplexing to me how a coach - in this day and age - is against using the 3PT shot, which Sha is. The 3PA:FGA metrics of his teams is ridiculous. Idk why he insists on this; it’s so limiting to just play this playground driving style.

And here’s a guy who saw and recruited types like Whitehead, Carrington, and Powell here.

 

[Gohall129]

This guy seems like a decent get considering we cant tap into our money yet. Seton Hall isn't going to compete for the biggest fish.

so we get a decent guy and the haters try to bend this into being terrible.

is he elite? no. was he better than most players last year ? yes.

He’s not better than Jenkins or Coleman. Hes in line with Wusu

 

[shu67]

I don't think he is better than any of our guards from last year. They played much better competition and thus at a higher level of play.

If he is better he will have to prove it this coming season against tougher teams. He has a lot to prove.

 

[SPK145]

I don't think he is better than any of our guards from last year. They played much better competition and thus at a higher level of play.

If he is better he will have to prove it this coming season against tougher teams. He has a lot to prove.

Miami played about the same ranked SOS as Seton Hall.

 

[GloryDays85]

I don't think he is better than any of our guards from last year. They played much better competition and thus at a higher level of play.

If he is better he will have to prove it this coming season against tougher teams. He has a lot to prove.

The ACC outside of Duke was putrid last year

 

[hallstorm]

The ACC outside of Duke was putrid last year

Big East wasn’t that much better

 

[NYC Pirate]

Our guard play last season was well below average. It is not going to be hard to replace them. We can only speculate on how the new players will perform at this level. Until we see them on the court, we won't know. I mean we had 7 wins and a couple in conference play. It can't be much worse than that.

 

[Section112]

Be great if we could recruit some bigs and a PF and at least one wing. Some of our guards can play the 3.