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You're right. I kind of smirked at this matchup when it was announced, thinking of it as an audition game for us...Originally posted by SPK145:
Iona at Rhode Island.
Seems like Seton Hall fans should be watching this one closely.
I don't want any part of Cluess and I think we can do better than Danny. From what I've seen, Danny is a great defensive coach but his offense leaves much to be desired. I think Bobby is a better fit. He plays up tempo and doesn't neglect defense like Cluess does.Originally posted by Piratz:
I'll take either Danny or Cluess immediately.
Originally posted by shu09:
I don't want any part of Cluess and I think we can do better than Danny. From what I've seen, Danny is a great defensive coach but his offense leaves much to be desired. I think Bobby is a better fit. He plays up tempo and doesn't neglect defense like Cluess does.Originally posted by Piratz:
I'll take either Danny or Cluess immediately.
I would be absolutely thrilled to get either Hurley here. I think you're right in that maybe we could lure someone who's had a little more past success, I just happen to 100% believe in the Hurleys both being big time coaches and in Jersey with all of the connections and respect of the family, I just think it'd be a home run for us. I really think it's a momentous blunder to leave them out there. Both are on their way to bigger and better things, I'd just really like that thing to be Seton Hall.Originally posted by shu09:
I don't want any part of Cluess and I think we can do better than Danny. From what I've seen, Danny is a great defensive coach but his offense leaves much to be desired. I think Bobby is a better fit. He plays up tempo and doesn't neglect defense like Cluess does.Originally posted by Piratz:
I'll take either Danny or Cluess immediately.
I don't know how much sway the high school coaches hold over their star players in New Jersey anymore, anyway. It's all about AAU connections now. But if there is one HS coach who might have some input, it's probably Bob Sr.Originally posted by shu09:
Hurley brothers should be able to recruit, even though it may alienate some of the local HS folks who aren't fond of the family.
Like who? Seton Hall is not getting Archie Miller or Ben Howland. Maybe Mike Lonergan but the Hurleys seem like a natural fit.Originally posted by HALL28:
I think you're right in that maybe we could lure someone who's had a little more past success,
Top 3? Who's the 3rd?Originally posted by Hall91:
should be a good one. I would definitely assume these guys would be in our top 3 targets.
How many NJ guys have come to The Hall the last handful of years (without a transfer involved). Someone who can could consistently get any solid kids from NJ would be an imporvement. Only guy on the roster from NJ who didn't transfer in is Ish.Originally posted by shu09:
Very good point, williaza01. Hurley brothers should be able to recruit, even though it may alienate some of the local HS folks who aren't fond of the family.
That's what I'm wary of, Bud Boomer. The efficiency numbers don't paint a pretty picture. Defense? He appears to be outstanding in that regard.Originally posted by Bud Boomer:
It is very similar to Willard's offense. Painful to watch and horribly inefficient.
Danny's Rhode Island team made a major jump in defensive efficiency this year after being terrible in years past. Offensive efficiency has been pretty bad all years there for him.Originally posted by shu09:
That's what I'm wary of, Bud Boomer. The efficiency numbers don't paint a pretty picture. Defense? He appears to be outstanding in that regard.
Take a look at Bobby's offense over at Buffalo. Only two years so not a large sample size, but it's night and day compared with Danny's. That's interesting to me. More efficient and more up-tempo despite not shooting it all that well. Lots of offensive rebounds.
And while we're at it let's go with two managers of the Yankee's, two HC's for the Giants, two President's of the U.S.......Originally posted by HallBall02:
Just curious, what if there were two head coaches on one team, if the brothers were cool with it and we paid them the same coach salary that would get them to us and took away one assistant postion, would that be illegal or against some ncaa policy.
Just thinking outside the box with some innovative ideas for the Hall, Danny leading the d, bobby leading the O.
Not arguing that the Hurleys would be the clear 1 and 1a options and the decision right now is so obvious it hurts.Originally posted by SPK145:
Like who? Seton Hall is not getting Archie Miller or Ben Howland. Maybe Mike Lonergan but the Hurleys seem like a natural fit.Originally posted by HALL28:
I think you're right in that maybe we could lure someone who's had a little more past success,
Not the same thing, but don't the Yankees have two hitting coaches this year? Thought I heard that. A lot of people question the value of hitting coaches in general, especially with a team full of veterans, but two?Originally posted by HALL85:
And while we're at it let's go with two managers of the Yankee's, two HC's for the Giants, two President's of the U.S.......Originally posted by HallBall02:
Just curious, what if there were two head coaches on one team, if the brothers were cool with it and we paid them the same coach salary that would get them to us and took away one assistant postion, would that be illegal or against some ncaa policy.
Just thinking outside the box with some innovative ideas for the Hall, Danny leading the d, bobby leading the O.
Not knocking thinking outside the box, but why would any HC want to be a "co" head coach, get half the $ and have half the power. Makes zero sense. Both Hurley brothers are on a path to become HC's at some top tier conference, whether it be BE or a BCS school. This isn't an 8 year old boys team where 2-3 guys share coaching duties.Originally posted by HallBall02:
Haha, thanks hall85. Not sure if it's as outrageous as you think it is but ok. I think maybe if hall fans stop thinking small maybe big things can happen. Pay each guy 800k with 2 asst getting 300k might work again if they were cool with it. Be the first team to do it, create a positive buzz and dominate nj recruiting.
Interesting. I wouldn't be at all disappointed with Bobby. This roster is kind of built for a coach that relentlessly pushes tempo and attacks the glass.Originally posted by shu09:
That's what I'm wary of, Bud Boomer. The efficiency numbers don't paint a pretty picture. Defense? He appears to be outstanding in that regard.
Take a look at Bobby's offense over at Buffalo. Only two years so not a large sample size, but it's night and day compared with Danny's. That's interesting to me. More efficient and more up-tempo despite not shooting it all that well. Lots of offensive rebounds.
Ben Jacobson. A fine coach with a possible future in the Big 10. He's from North Dakota, and won't be coming to Seton Hall. If he did, people on this board would be complaining that he didn't have local connections.Originally posted by SHUPirate08:
Who is the Northern Iowa coach? Talk about passing and fundamentals!
SPK, Danny has had 3 good years of defensive efficiency. Definitely took a big jump this year, but I'd take his numbers last year at URI and his last year at Wagner and consider them pretty good. Certainly better than what we have now. His offensive numbers do scare me.Originally posted by SPK145:
Danny's Rhode Island team made a major jump in defensive efficiency this year after being terrible in years past. Offensive efficiency has been pretty bad all years there for him.Originally posted by shu09:
That's what I'm wary of, Bud Boomer. The efficiency numbers don't paint a pretty picture. Defense? He appears to be outstanding in that regard.
Take a look at Bobby's offense over at Buffalo. Only two years so not a large sample size, but it's night and day compared with Danny's. That's interesting to me. More efficient and more up-tempo despite not shooting it all that well. Lots of offensive rebounds.
Bobby's Buffalo offensive efficiency has been very good both years but the defensive efficiency numbers aren't that good.
Personally, I would be happy with Danny Hurley. But, I also see a guy like McKillop come here for a couple of years with Adrian Griffin as coach in waiting.Originally posted by SPK145:
Like who? Seton Hall is not getting Archie Miller or Ben Howland. Maybe Mike Lonergan but the Hurleys seem like a natural fit.Originally posted by HALL28:
I think you're right in that maybe we could lure someone who's had a little more past success,