Pardons

[HALL85]

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/20/biden-pardon-fauci-cheney-jan-6-committee-trump

Another dumb move by Biden. Has the complete opposite effect of his stated intention.

Trumps victory marginalized all of them and with the expansive agenda he has and essentially two years to get it passed, there was no way there would be any investigations.

Now Biden has handed him the talking points to reinforce that they were guilty with no chance for them to disprove.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Talk about abusing power. Can you real pardon someone for something they haven’t even been accused of yet?

Gotta believe that goes beyond the power of the President. Will the courts get involved.

Biden has literally done everything they cried about for years that Trump would do if he got into office

 

[Merge]

Can you real pardon someone for something they haven’t even been accused of yet?

Gotta believe that goes beyond the power of the President. Will the courts get involved.

Yes. The court has already determined that to be the case.

Ex parte Garland, 71 U.S. 333 (1866)

Ex parte Garland

supreme.justia.com

The power of pardon conferred by the Constitution upon the President is unlimited except in cases of impeachment. It extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment. The power is not subject to legislative control.

In agreement these pardons are crossing a moral line though.

 

[Section112]

It's just part of the continuing and ramping up smear of Trump. That's what the Dems are doing. Part of the plan.

 

[HALL85]

It's just part of the continuing and ramping up smear of Trump. That's what the Dems are doing. Part of the plan.

They can’t help themselves and now he sets a precedent so Trump can do the same thing. Dems criticize Trump as having unbridled power and they hand him the most dangerous tool.

 

[jack 1970]

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/20/biden-pardon-fauci-cheney-jan-6-committee-trump

Another dumb move by Biden. Has the complete opposite effect of his stated intention.

Trumps victory marginalized all of them and with the expansive agenda he has and essentially two years to get it passed, there was no way there would be any investigations.

Now Biden has handed him the talking points to reinforce that they were guilty with no chance for them to disprove.

Joe Biden has the judgment of George Costanza.Always do the opposite of him.

 

[Section112]

It's clear Biden has not been running the country for some time. These decisions are being made by others most likely folks like Soros and Obama designees. Biden most likely did not make this decision or at least alone.

 

[knowknow456]

Perhaps President Trump will take the high road and not pardon people unnecessarily.

 

[CL82]

No one was ever going to jail. If you accept that premise, then the only thing these pardons did was take away the ability to plead the fifth amendment prohibition against self-incrimination. If called now, they would have to testify, and testify on honestly since they would still be subject to prosecution for any post pardon perjury.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Perhaps President Trump will take the high road and not pardon people unnecessarily.

I think we're going to find out Biden pardoning Fauci was not unnecessary from the perspective of the left.

 

[Robot_Man]

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[cernjSHU]

Looks like Trump just pardoned all Jan 6 defendants. Didn’t take long for Trump to prove what a disgrace that he is the President. Hall85 u were up in arms about Biden pardoning people who committed no crime.

Trump starts off on day one proving he is not to be trusted with the reigns of power.

 

[jack 1970]

Looks like Trump just pardoned all Jan 6 defendants. Didn’t take long for Trump to prove what a disgrace that he is the President. Hall85 u were up in arms about Biden pardoning people who committed no crime.

Trump starts off on day one proving he is not to be trusted with the reigns of power.

Trump shouldn't pardon any Jan 6 person who entered the Capital.That has to be against the law.That said,you don't know that the people Biden is pardoning didn't break the law.That hasn't been prosecuted yet.Ironically,his pardon makes them look guilty which isn't a great look.

 

[HALL85]

Looks like Trump just pardoned all Jan 6 defendants. Didn’t take long for Trump to prove what a disgrace that he is the President. Hall85 u were up in arms about Biden pardoning people who committed no crime.

Trump starts off on day one proving he is not to be trusted with the reigns of power.

You don’t see the difference of pardoning people for past or future crimes?

And for the record I think he should absolutely not pardon anyone who injured law enforcement.

 

[cernjSHU]

You don’t see the difference of pardoning people for past or future crimes?

I don’t agree with Biden pardoning people who did not commit any crimes. There is no allegation of a crime for members of the Congressional committee who only performed their jobs. There image been no allegations that he committed any crimes except that Trumo says so. Name the crime.

Thus, while I understand why Biden pardoned them to avoid unnecessary retributional investigations (weaponizing the DOJ), I don’t like it.

Trump meanwhile pardoned violent offenders who beat up police and desecrated the capital. What a disgrace!

 

[shu09]

Biden leaves in disgrace. The most corrupt, power-abusing president of all time. The Biden Crime Family actually turned out to be a true thing!

 

[HALL85]

I don’t agree with Biden pardoning people who did not commit any crimes. There is no allegation of a crime for members of the Congressional committee who only performed their jobs. There image been no allegations that he committed any crimes except that Trumo says so. Name the crime.

If there is no proof why would the DOJ go after them? Are you suggesting the DOJ would do such a thing?

Thus, while I understand why Biden pardoned them to avoid unnecessary retributional investigations (weaponizing the DOJ), I don’t like it.

Think about the dangerous precedent Biden just set. Trump could turn to Zuckerberg and tell him could do something illegal to enrich himself and give him the same pardon before he leaves office whether Zuckerberg is caught or not.

Trump meanwhile pardoned violent offenders who beat up police and desecrated the capital. What a disgrace!

 

[cernjSHU]

If there is no proof why would the DOJ go after them? Are you suggesting the DOJ would do such a thing?

Think about the dangerous precedent Biden just set. Trump could turn to Zuckerberg and tell him could do something illegal to enrich himself and give him the same pardon before he leaves office whether Zuckerberg is caught or not.

Kash Patel has already indicated that they should be prosecuted. Another person who is woefully unqualified.

 

[HALL85]

Kash Patel has already indicated that they should be prosecuted. Another person who is woefully unqualified.

Not surprised you feel that way.

 

[cernjSHU]

Not surprised you feel that way.

As a member of law enforcement t for 27 years who has personally prosecuted numerous murderers including a terrorist, I think I have some good feel for what it takes to Christopher Wray was a man of integrity who carried out the job of the Director well. Patel is a lightweight who is just a yes man for Trump. Please read Bill Barr’s accounting of Patel.