Indeed it is. It is a very scary drug.
Wouldn't 100% of the fentanyl deaths be criminal on criminal?
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Indeed it is. It is a very scary drug.
Wouldn't 100% of the fentanyl deaths be criminal on criminal?
Your point is that the data you shared supports your opinion that it’s getting better. It’s one recent data point of a trend that has been rising dramatically. I see that as a blip vs a downward trend give what some major cities are reporting recently (like the recent Axios story.)
We can agree to disagree on this one but if you think the problem is getting better, you can keep your head in the sand Brandon.
I'm not even making the case things are definitely improving. I even said earlier that I was not convinced that this trend will continue. Maybe it is a blip. Maybe we are starting to see that some of the steps we have taken to address the problem are starting to work?
But saying things are getting worse now, during the only time they have actually shown any sign of improvement over the last 4 or so years is off.
After fentanyl deaths increased by 46% in the 12 months ended June 2020 and 35% in June 2021, I think a 7% increase for June 2022 is encouraging. Overall overdose deaths are up for 2% compared to 22% and 21% in those prior years.
Why not take that as encouraging news especially when the last few months show a downward trend?
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/p...-making-san-diego-national-epicenter-fentanyl
Because there is more evidence or leading indicators that make me believe that it’s getting worse and it continues to be a significant threat to our nation.
No one said it's not a threat. It's just not getting worse right now.
"On Wednesday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released provisional data on what happened through the first six months of this year. The news appears to be hopeful.
Provisional data indicates U.S. overdose deaths fell three months in a row."
For some reason, you just really don't want to acknowledging that fact.
Here's a model predicting the peak between now and 2023.
Mega-model predicts US opioid deaths will soon peak
The crisis is projected to claim more than half a million more lives from 2020 to 2032, although yearly deaths are on course to start falling before 2025.
www.nature.com
Again, I am not suggesting this is all over and there is nothing to worry about anymore... but the recent data shows signs for optimism. The states which had some of the highest overdose rates are seeing declines. That is exactly what you would hope to see since those states would be getting most of the early attention.
Did you even read the article? They admit the data is “uneven” with only a handful of states skewing the numbers while most continue to rise. They point to other factors (false plateaus and decrease from 2017 to 18, only to see it climb further after that pause) as well that question whether the trend is real.No one said it's not a threat. It's just not getting worse right now.
"On Wednesday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released provisional data on what happened through the first six months of this year. The news appears to be hopeful.
Provisional data indicates U.S. overdose deaths fell three months in a row."
For some reason, you just really don't want to acknowledging that fact.
Here's a model predicting the peak between now and 2023.
Mega-model predicts US opioid deaths will soon peak
The crisis is projected to claim more than half a million more lives from 2020 to 2032, although yearly deaths are on course to start falling before 2025.
Again, I am not suggesting this is all over and there is nothing to worry about anymore... but the recent data shows signs for optimism. The states which had some of the highest overdose rates are seeing declines. That is exactly what you would hope to see since those states would be getting most of the early attention.
You seem hung up on this three month number which doesn’t relate to what is being reported in major cities and with drug seizures.
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Yes... I read it. The "handful" of states showing improvements are the states which have faced the crisis the worst. Those states seeing results from the education, outreach and other programs is exactly what you would hope to see... and also exactly why that nature study shows the peak occurring in the near future if it hasn't already.
Drug seizures being up is probably a good thing here as well, no? Surely better than the alternative?
In the last 7 years. When was the largest three month decline in overdose deaths? Answer. - The last 3!
Encouraging news which we should view with caution, but now is not the time to say things are getting worse... Because they are not. Get it?
Somehow, I think you would find that clarity here if you weren't trying to make a political argument and just focused on the actual data here.
The article says it was inconclusive what caused the decline, but it could be….
Because you want to pick a small period of time that fits your opinion. As the article points out, looking at data over longer periods is far more telling and it pointed specifically to the flaw in your thinking.
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Exactly…
Im not picking anything. I’m looking at all of the data. The last three months happen to have the largest decline of any period of the last 7 years and you’re making the argument things are getting worse.
The Pirates look like they may have an ok season if we just ignore those last 3 games too.
Silly analogy given that Sha is 7 games into his coaching tenure here.
You’re looking at one piece of short term data. The article that you posted even questioned the importance of the short trend.
I’m looking at ALL of the data. Things are just not getting worse now. Make the argument 6 months ago, sure. Now, not so much.
In all honesty, assume it has peaked for a moment. What would be the indicator that would offer you a sign of optimism if not actual deaths declining?
For a starter, people I have talked with in healthcare and law-enforcement. They are the ones seeing it in real time.
You referred to "leading indicators" previously, right? What were you referring to? Any actual real data there?
Hospital admissions related to drugs? 911 calls related to overdoes? instances of administering naloxone?
Surely there would be something other than "I know a guy"... But when you start looking into those statistics, they don't really paint a picture of things "getting worse"
I know a lot of guys….I do weigh real time data from those that are dealing with it.
Where did that guy take a cooking class at the beginning of the pandemic again?
Updated CDC data for December (now through July 2022)
www.cdc.gov
12 month rolling overdose deaths dropped again. 4 months in a row now.
Synthetic opioid deaths dropped again. 4 months in a row.
PA down 4 months in a row, NJ down 6 month is a row.
In NJ specifically, through 9 months 2022 overdose deaths are down more than 10% compared to 2021.
Would seem to suggest things moving in the right direction... Hope the trend continues.
Products - Vital Statistics Rapid Release - Provisional Drug Overdose Data
National Center for Health Statistics
www.cdc.gov
12 month rolling overdose deaths dropped again. 4 months in a row now.
Synthetic opioid deaths dropped again. 4 months in a row.
PA down 4 months in a row, NJ down 6 month is a row.
In NJ specifically, through 9 months 2022 overdose deaths are down more than 10% compared to 2021.
Would seem to suggest things moving in the right direction... Hope the trend continues.
Biden is trying to refill the oil reserve at $80 per barrel. Meanwhile, the dems blocked Trump from refilling them at $24 per barrel. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...-trump-at-24&usg=AOvVaw0e43ed7_st9xgrxccze7iq
Difference being that Biden released reserves to ease pressure on prices due to a war, and now has to refill the reserves. There wasn’t really a reason to buy more in 2020 other than other than it being cheap.
Not really apples to apples there.
Trump released reserves due to attacks on the Saudi oil infrastructure.
Trump had 695M barrels when he took office and 638M when he left. 8% reduction
Trump attempted to fill it but was not successful.
Biden Since Biden took office, the reserve has declined to 416M 35% reduction
The 726M capacity is about a 60 month supply. We are at 39 months.
The reserve has not been filled since June, 2011, Obama was in office.
Biden has been releasing reserves mainly for economic/market reasons. He has shifted the purpose of the reserve from a safety net to a pricing tool. Tapping and replenishing the reserves has impact on oil prices.
More recently, the Ukraine war has been the impetus for releases.
Biden recently announced his intention to replenish.
Trump had 695M barrels when he took office and 638M when he left. 8% reduction
Trump attempted to fill it but was not successful.
Biden Since Biden took office, the reserve has declined to 416M 35% reduction
The 726M capacity is about a 60 month supply. We are at 39 months.
The reserve has not been filled since June, 2011, Obama was in office.
Biden has been releasing reserves mainly for economic/market reasons. He has shifted the purpose of the reserve from a safety net to a pricing tool. Tapping and replenishing the reserves has impact on oil prices.
More recently, the Ukraine war has been the impetus for releases.
Biden recently announced his intention to replenish.
Well, that's actually a really good reason to buy something that is important to the country.
agree. if we had place to store it, then it would have been a really good move considering where we are now. but maybe we needed the money for other things
We were at about 90% capacity of possible reserves in March 2020. It’s not like that extra 10% changes much here if we topped off.
I’d agree it would have been a good move, but the strategic part of the reserves isn’t really about being sensitive to the price we paid for the oil. It’s about being able to respond to a disruption.
His top accomplishment as a puppet of Klaus Schwab and WEF Globalists has been destroying our country from within.
Bidunce has done a great job for his bosses
Bidunce has done a great job for his bosses
Can you imagine the mental state of Biden in six years when he is 86.That is why a lot of people don’t want him to run.Dies anyone really want to take the chance that the cackling VP becomes President If your IQ is room temperature or above you know the word salad Kamala is not ready for prime time..
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