Razor thin margin rest of OOC
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Will be tough, first road game/tough environment. But why not?
Monmouth and NJIT are a combined 1-14. Beating either team by four points would be a very bad sign.
3-1 is the bare minimum as Oklahoma State didn't look good this weekend. When announcers are openly talking about a team struggling to compete in its conference, that is telling.
3-1 is the bare minimum as Oklahoma State didn't look good this weekend. When announcers are openly talking about a team struggling to compete in its conference, that is telling.
Right now this team is incapable of blowing anyone out with how they’re shooting from 2. Hopefully improves and we can take care of business in those 3 games.
A win over VCU on a neutral court and upsetting Rutgers on the road makes this a better non-con than last year even with the two brutal 1-point losses. Sounds good to me! 🫡
A win over VCU on a neutral court and upsetting Rutgers on the road makes this a better non-con than last year even with the two brutal 1-point losses. Sounds good to me! 🫡
Even 4-0 in the rest of ooc won't turn the needle that much, other than maybe hurt Rutgers chances.
Problem Seton Hall has the Big East is probably having the worst OOC of BE plus power 4. Don't think a good conference record will carry the same weight as years before.
Problem Seton Hall has the Big East is probably having the worst OOC of BE plus power 4. Don't think a good conference record will carry the same weight as years before.
Impossible to project anything. Look where we were last December. Then the 5 upsets during Championship Week in March as we went from 3rd in to cutline to 2nd out.
Getting to 8-3 with 2 Q1 wins (neutral vs. VCU, at Rutgers), 1 Q3 loss and 1 Q4 loss is all they can do right now. Not only 4-0 but smoke Monmouth, NJIT, and decisively vs OK State. Usually it’s better to have a couple good wins even with a bad loss or two than to not have any good wins without bad losses.
Unfortunately I see no indication ⬆️ is possible. But that’s why they play the games!
Getting to 8-3 with 2 Q1 wins (neutral vs. VCU, at Rutgers), 1 Q3 loss and 1 Q4 loss is all they can do right now. Not only 4-0 but smoke Monmouth, NJIT, and decisively vs OK State. Usually it’s better to have a couple good wins even with a bad loss or two than to not have any good wins without bad losses.
Unfortunately I see no indication ⬆️ is possible. But that’s why they play the games!
At present an at large bid seems ambitious. Just playing better would be a welcome step in the right direction.
How do you possibly even post about an at large bid. We’re lucky to win 5 Big East games. UCONN and Creighton might beat us by 50 if they want to.
I agree. Any Post Season aspirations were greatly damaged by the Fordham and really bad Hofstra losses. Without a major change in the level of play it could be too steep of a mountain to climb. NIT? Another poster alluded to an above .500 record in conference play requirement. So improving and upsetting some of the top tier conference teams could be as good as it gets. This upcoming off season looms large in the future of the program.
The difference between having two non-conference Q1 wins and having your best OOC win be a Q3 is sizable. Admittedly the losses to Fordham and Hofstra will hurt but its hard to know how much they will matter in the end.
I'd need to know what a 12-8 BE record looks like. Did we beat UConn or Marquette or Creighton? Do we have a quality road win or two? Do we win a game, or even two, at MSG beyond that?
Even with all that, we need to know what the rest of the field looks like. Barring our own run to a BET title, do the other conferences play as normal. The conference tournaments going haywire is what cost us last year.
This is the most important stretch of the season in terms of improvement time. Obviously teams can improve all year, no kidding, but we need to take a jump now. We’re about a month in, 7 games. We see what’s going on, who is flashing, who is not, what combos work well, what do not. It’s time for some of these players to start making a jump over the next 2.5 weeks. There is ample practice time and we’ll be favored in the next 3 games (Monmouth 11/30, NJIT 12/4, Oklahoma State 12/8, all at The Rock).
Walk into The RAC on Saturday, 12/14 at 7-3 and playing a crisper brand of offensive ball and go from there. Then you’ve got at Villanova (12/17) and Georgetown (12/22) before a 9-day layoff.
Walk into The RAC on Saturday, 12/14 at 7-3 and playing a crisper brand of offensive ball and go from there. Then you’ve got at Villanova (12/17) and Georgetown (12/22) before a 9-day layoff.
Agree. Unless we win the Big East tourney, we have zero chance for bid. You simply can't lose to Fordham and Hofstra. If 13-7 did not get us in last year with wins over UCONN and Marquette (and 5 quad 1 wins and really no bad losses), we really have no shot for at large bid. In the era of the NET, the losses to Fordham and Hofstra are death blows.
My hope is we keep getting better and Sha has enough NIL funds to keep some of the key pieces for next year. I think seeing development was the key piece of enjoyment for bad seasons pre NIL. You had hope for the future. And with the NIL and transfer portal, that is almost impossible.
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