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The biggest increase in your graph is for social programs. That makes sense as they have ballooned out of control since 1952.

There is no lack of empathy. I feel bad for people who truly can't help themselves. I don't feel bad for people who live beyond their means, are reckless and then look to blame someone or something else for their problems managing money.

I agree on Citizens United. Horrible decision and I said so at the time. Still believe that.
 
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I'm also curious when the bubble is going to burst on college tuition prices. The price hikes are just not sunstainable. Luckily, I'm sure our completely uncorrupted, 100% qualified Sec of Education is ON IT:

This bubble has been growing for many, many years. The current Secretary of Education has little to do with it.
 
This bubble has been growing for many, many years. The current Secretary of Education has little to do with it.

More free government money equals fast-rising, out of control tuition costs, simple economics lost on too many. Getting approved for a college loan is as easy as expecting the next intolerant post from Bobbie DeblaSolo.
 
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Too many generalities thrown out here. Saving money has always been hard. The environment and conditions change. There are also cultural factors that factor in.

So what's the answer? Enable everyone to keep more money to either save or waste? Or take more in taxes and have a government provide more services?
 
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No, it wasn't latte, it was pussy. My parents married in the middle of the Depression when my Father was running his construction company in Hell's Kitchen and clearing $35 a week. Some of you make it sound like hard times is a recent occurrence. Somehow they made a go of it with no welfare, raised three children and wound up in a reasonably comfortable situation. They did it by not living beyond their means and by never going on the cuff for anything. If they couldn't pay cash, they didn't buy it. I am sure others on this board could tell the same story. The poor will always be with us, Jesus said. It is a fact of life and many suffer poverty despite their honest attempts to rise above it. Others squander every opportunity laid before them and then blame the system for their failure. Tsk, tsk, who do you think deserves pity?
I've never paid anything except the balance in full on every bill I've received in my life. I've been fortunate to be able to do that. Your parents, despite what you think, were also fortunate to be able to pull off what you describe. Not everyone is so fortunate as the three of us.

If prudent decision-making were all it took to prosper your poverty of empathy would be less disgusting. Not un-disgusting mind you, but less so.
 
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A tax bill created by Republicans to help the middle class is an oxymoron. To the GOP, the working class is a vast voting block they can easily manipulate via religion, homophobia, racism, immigration and fear-mongering. Someday perhaps the working class will realize how much they’ve been used.

Having said that, I wish the pesto man good fortune.
 
why do we have to change an innocent post about pesto to a damn debate on economics theory.
 
A tax bill created by Republicans to help the middle class is an oxymoron. To the GOP, the working class is a vast voting block they can easily manipulate via religion, homophobia, racism, immigration and fear-mongering. Someday perhaps the working class will realize how much they’ve been used.

Having said that, I wish the pesto man good fortune.
And the Dems don't do that also?
 
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A tax bill created by Republicans to help the middle class is an oxymoron. To the GOP, the working class is a vast voting block they can easily manipulate via religion, homophobia, racism, immigration and fear-mongering. Someday perhaps the working class will realize how much they’ve been used.

You could say the exact same thing about the democraps and the poor, the exact same thing.
 
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How’s that Great Society working?

And what party has controled the urban cities for past 50 years? Talk about an easily manipulated voting block!

Okay, having just snuck in, I’m now sneaking out!

And again, I’m speaking as a guy who prefers marinara over pesto!
 
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My two Italian grandmama's would never have allowed that. Hopefully you use extra virgin Italian Olive Oil,. I'm only kidding with you, but your post did entice me to defrost one of the several I have let when I made a batch in August. Good luck with your business.
 
I've never paid anything except the balance in full on every bill I've received in my life. I've been fortunate to be able to do that. Your parents, despite what you think, were also fortunate to be able to pull off what you describe. Not everyone is so fortunate as the three of us.

If prudent decision-making were all it took to prosper your poverty of empathy would be less disgusting. Not un-disgusting mind you, but less so.

Carrying no credit card balances is one of the first and best things my father thought me when I was growing up.

My dad didn't make a lot of money, and my mom was a stay at home mom for many years, so they were careful with their money, never spending on what they didn't need, not driving flashy cars, not taking expensive vacations, etc... They were able to send my brother and I to private schools, as well as both to SHU without a huge amount of loan debt, and they also saved for their retirement.

There will always be people who struggle, but prudent decision making is a key, it may not take you out of poverty, but any little money you can put away for retirement or savings helps and could go a long way to future financial stability. Examples: new iPhone for $40/month for 2 year vs $40/month in bank for an emergency fund, $200 car payment for 5 years vs a $250 car payment for 6 years, lot of extra cash to put in an IRA.
 
Carrying no credit card balances is one of the first and best things my father thought me when I was growing up.

My dad didn't make a lot of money, and my mom was a stay at home mom for many years, so they were careful with their money, never spending on what they didn't need, not driving flashy cars, not taking expensive vacations, etc... They were able to send my brother and I to private schools, as well as both to SHU without a huge amount of loan debt, and they also saved for their retirement.

There will always be people who struggle, but prudent decision making is a key, it may not take you out of poverty, but any little money you can put away for retirement or savings helps and could go a long way to future financial stability. Examples: new iPhone for $40/month for 2 year vs $40/month in bank for an emergency fund, $200 car payment for 5 years vs a $250 car payment for 6 years, lot of extra cash to put in an IRA.
Great post! Unfortunately we have lost some of those values and we are in the "show me" times. Look at the nice phone they have. Look at how nice their clothes are or look at how nice that car is (probably leased) etc and you see that for lots of folks that cannot afford these things. Social media paints a pretty picture of how great everyone's life is and others want that even though its not true. Everyone wants everything right away and it's not how it works. Great book that was written some time ago called The Millionaire Next Door by Bill Danko (former SUNY Albany Prof) and another guy. I worked with Bill on a project a while back - terrific guy. Talks about the real story of how Americans saved and scrimped and lived within their means and over time became millionaires (not multiple times over but saved enough for a decent retirement). Times have changed since then but not as much as folks say. The same hard work, save and try and take advantage of your opportunities still exists and there opportunities for folks from all walks of life in America. Just gotta find them, have a plan and be patient. It's gotta be tough living paycheck to paycheck, but the hard working folks if they keep working and have a plan, have a chance to eventually overcome that.
 
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