Is this really going to add revenue or just cause more season ticket holders to non-renew? I would imagine quite a few long time fans are on the brink of calling it quits.
Seat Donations Increasing per Felt Email
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That's a calculation they'll have to live with. Sports tickets are fairly inelastic though.
You’re in the minority. Paint whatever colorful picture you want— we run a Micky Mouse operation. We’re on the short list of NIL disasters. The time to raise premiums was years ago in order to get out in front of this thing. Now they decided to wake up from their naps and send a ridiculous email at a ridiculous time to notify us that they are raising prices amidst the biggest failure of a season in the history of our program. We are nothing short of a train wreck.
I think sending the warning email will cause more people to think about it and bolt. If I was SHU, I would wait to do ticket renewals as late as possible this offseason, preferably after the program gets some good/positive news. I think raising it after this terrible season is bad move in general, but if you need to raise it, just put it in renewal packet with higher rate and maybe explanation in letter at that time. Maybe in the summer there will be less sting from this season, and hope of a new season.
Doing it now will let them know how much additional revenue this will generate.
It sucks but it's what college athletics has become.
Not true. Season ticket money is not due now, usually do not have to commit until mid summer at the earliest if renewing. Pirate Blue payments do not count for next season until new fiscal year.
Good point but I still think info will flow as to non-renewals etc.
The best time to do this would have been last year after winning the NIT.
They had a plan last year and it was focused on season ticket holder retention. Renew quickly and save the 3% price increase. I chose that option so their plan worked in my case.
Not really as at that time revenue sharing wasn’t legal yet.
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Bingo. If everyone is going to complain at least understand the facts. Revenue sharing wasn’t even allowed last year so there would have been no point in raising ticket prices as it was not legal to pay directly to athletes
If you've only been a ticket holder for just over 10 years, you've seen one of the better eras of SHU basketball. This one year is nothing compared to the decade of futility from 2006.
Come on, Pat. Holding your breath and being angry at a way to raise NIL funds is counterproductive to the results you want.
They had to know or had to see it coming though. Of course these are the same people who think our NIL situation is fantastic so there’s also that.
None of them think it's fantastic. They are relying on donations from a fanbase that has always had mothballs in their wallets, aside from a few. When they do something to raise revenue -- and make no mistake, it's not about anything but money anymore -- more complaining.
The whole idea of fans paying players is anathema to me, for sure. At a crucial crossroads for our school's program, this pettiness has to be set aside, and enough with the threats of withdrawing financial support.
Everyone here knows the score - you don't need a formal invitation to help out financially at this point, even if it's a small amount. Everyone wants and demands a winner -- if one bad season in the last 10+ is unacceptable to you, then you have to do what supporters of every other high D1 program are being asked to do.
What is seeing the roster going to tell you? Look at RU. If I told you we had 2 top 5 draft picks most would be talking final 4. Go back and read the board about our good gets late. Nobody said we’re going to be brutal. People dive head first into the overhype every damn year and it’s even worse when it’s with a coach they love. I think the responses to the gonzo and Sha years are very similar in that people get excited over nothings. And similar people always found the negative in Orr and Willard years. So considering we’re in the Sha hype zone I expect the overhype no matter who we bring in. You might as well just renew
I understand what you're saying, but why should folks just be expected/shamed/coerced into constantly giving a free pass to the Athletic Department and University for lacking creativity, offering no value, etc? It's clear they are the ones shrugging their shoulders but that doesn't mean we have to.
If they want money, give us a reason to provide it to them. Once again, as they always do, they just stick their left hand out with nothing to offer in the right. In this case, they actually reach into our wallet as I can't have my season ticket unless I pay for the latest cry for help. People of this board, myself included, have offered suggestions and provided examples for months and, in some cases, years on things that could be offered to provide actual value to the fanbase. In many cases, those things cost very little or even $0. But alas, those in the position to effect said changes are either too incompetent, too uninspired, or too hamstrung to either entertain these ideas or come up with some more satisfactory ones of their own.
You know why we complain more than any other fanbase in regards to NIL (which I don't believe, by the way)? It's for the same reasons that have been mentioned above and throughout this thread - look at what this fanbase gets in return for their Pirate Blue donations and NIL donations - it's been embarassingly poor compared to all of those schools.
You reap what you sow.
What are other fanbases getting? I honestly don't know.
I do know that a hell of a nice watch was offered at a good price (granted, more than I've ever paid for a watch), so I sent the $400 and got it back when not enough people responded to this creative attempt at providing value for the NIL. But please keep blaming the administration for all of it. I believe that John and Jamie (correct me if I'm wrong) had to help prop up the campaign for "The Hall" hats, too.
Ticket, media rights and sponsorship revenues are the revenues allowed to be used to pay the players so it does make sense. Pirate Blue contributions/revenues still cannot be used to pay NIL or players directly under House v. NCAA is that correct?
That is not correct, Pirate Blue donations have always been a part of school athletic revenues and not considered a collective.
Precisely, I don't understand how someone would've expected anything other than this as one of the levers needing to be pulled.
