Shaheen

[HallGuy23]

His obvious loyalty to Wusu is beyond ridiculous. Giving Dylan 38 minutes in an offensive shootout where he couldn’t hit anything is coaching malpractice.

Add in that our best player by far had to sit long stretches with foul trouble and he continued to bury Felton on the bench with only 11 minutes played.

Felton has shown the entire season he has a very good shot and offensive ability.

This loyalty to Wusu has fully reached unacceptable levels.

If Felton is fed up and leaves and we can’t afford Coleman where are we next year? Same crappy place we are now if not worse if that’s fathomable.

 

[Piratz]

The big whiffs on Dual and Harmon are also killers.

 

[radecicco]

Agree that Wusu is what he is. But to say Felton is the answer is not accurate. He can’t penetrate. He’s slow. He was embarrassed in the first half for a pick six layup when the team had a nice rhythm going. At this point he’s not a good defender. Should he have played more than 11 minutes, maybe but I don’t see him as a consistent 15-18 minutes player yet. He is a developing player. He can make a shot when open. There are two issues with this team personnel wise— 1. Dual and Harmon didn’t pan out and 2. our big men can’t score and don’t provide any rim protection.

 

[HallGuy23]

Agree that Wusu is what he is. But to say Felton is the answer is not accurate. He can’t penetrate. He’s slow. He was embarrassed in the first half for a pick six layup when the team had a nice rhythm going. At this point he’s not a good defender. Should he have played more than 11 minutes, maybe but I don’t see him as a consistent 15-18 minutes player yet. He is a developing player. He can make a shot when open. There are two issues with this team personnel wise— 1. Dual and Harmon didn’t pan out and 2. our big men can’t score and don’t provide any rim protection.

Are you Shaheen? Your assessment is way off. Felton is better than Wusu and there’s no argument to challenge that.

 

[Hall84]

Are you Shaheen? Your assessment is way off. Felton is better than Wusu and there’s no argument to challenge that.

Wrong.
You are looking at only 1 side of the ball.

I really like Felton and want him to get more PT and definitely think he is 1 of the top priorities for next season

 

[radecicco]

With all due respect, he can be in the future. But he’s not at this point. He is becoming a contributor. Just because you say something doesn’t make it so. I listed several points why Felton is not ready for consistent extended minutes. You counter with nothing except name calling.

 

[HallGuy23]

Wrong.
You are looking at only 1 side of the ball.

I really like Felton and want him to get more PT and definitely think he is 1 of the top priorities for next season

My point as I stated was that we were in an offensive shootout tonight and Wusu was throwing up brick after brick.

Leaving him in and keeping a better offensive player on the bench is inexcusable.

 

[HallGuy23]

With all due respect, he can be in the future. But he’s not at this point. He is becoming a contributor. Just because you say something doesn’t make it so. I listed several points why Felton is not ready for consistent extended minutes. You counter with nothing except name calling.

Your mindset is stuck in 1988. If you really think Wusu is better than Felton I’m not going to waste my time typing out a rebuttal. Anybody that knows basketball can easily see it.

And I didn’t name call…

 

[radecicco]

Your mindset is stuck in 1988. If you really think Wusu is better than Felton I’m not going to waste my time typing out a rebuttal. Anybody that knows basketball can easily see it.

Anybody who knows basketball knows that Felton is slow on D, can’t create his own shot and is not a great ball handler. He’s getting better. But hey, I’m sure you have a great eye for talent and are a master hoops strategist.

 

[HallGuy23]

Anybody who knows basketball knows that Felton is slow on D, can’t create his own shot and is not a great ball handler. He’s getting better. But hey, I’m sure you have a great eye for talent and are a master hoops strategist.

You’re 100% wrong. 100%. Unreal

And again. How many times do I have to say that my entire point was that we were in an offensive shootout. Defense wasn’t making a difference today. We needed offense. And your golden boy Wusu built a village.

 

[Hall Is Life]

Is 3/15 from the field good?

 

[JTSHU]

Dylan can play and give u plenty like last season, just not a primary ball handler, play maker and the one to have the ball in his hands as the clock winds down

 

[PJVegas]

Maybe his NIL contract requires minutes played and that’s why he’s playing so many. Don’t want to breach that contract in this new era of amateur sports. 😵‍💫

 

[radecicco]

Is 3/15 from the field good?

No it is not. I’m not defending Wusu. I said he is what he is. But how did we get back into the game in the 2nd half— it was defense and the press. If Wusu has a strength it’s defense hustle and toughness. I don’t think Felton would have helped us in that area but that’s just my opinion. We had our best defensive team on the floor, we scored 80+ points and lost because PC was unconscious from 3.

 

[HallGuy23]

Dylan can play and give u plenty like last season, just not a primary ball handler, play maker and the one to have the ball in his hands as the clock winds down

Sounds like a quality 5th year Big East player 🙄

 

[Hall Is Life]

No it is not. I’m not defending Wusu. I said he is what he is. But how did we get back into the game in the 2nd half— it was defense and the press. If Wusu has a strength it’s defense hustle and toughness. I don’t think Felton would have helped us in that area but that’s just my opinion. We had our best defensive team on the floor, we scored 80+ points and lost because PC was unconscious from 3.

We gave up 41 points in the 1h and an even worse 50 in the 2h. I don’t know what the answer is on this team. Maybe it’s Felton. Maybe it’s not. But allowing Wusu to chuck like he’s Dawes of last year trying to break out of a slump ain’t it. Possibly worst thing that happened to Wusu (and SHU) was having the game of his life against DePaul. Dude makes a few shots and thinks he’s Steph Curry (1/8 from 3pt btw). Appalling.

 

[SHUHitman]

Agree that Wusu is what he is. But to say Felton is the answer is not accurate. He can’t penetrate. He’s slow. He was embarrassed in the first half for a pick six layup when the team had a nice rhythm going. At this point he’s not a good defender. Should he have played more than 11 minutes, maybe but I don’t see him as a consistent 15-18 minutes player yet. He is a developing player. He can make a shot when open. There are two issues with this team personnel wise— 1. Dual and Harmon didn’t pan out and 2. our big men can’t score and don’t provide any rim protection.

If I'm being honest, I found a graduate student senior who shot 3-15 and 1-8 in 38 minutes more embarassing than a freshman guard making a mistake.

One player potentially has a future here; the other does not. Do the math on this season and exercise logic.

 

[SHUHitman]

Anybody who knows basketball knows that Felton is slow on D, can’t create his own shot and is not a great ball handler. He’s getting better. But hey, I’m sure you have a great eye for talent and are a master hoops strategist.

DAW - not a great ball handler. Can he create his own shot or just chucks shots up whenever the opportunity arises? In either event, he seems to miss them at an alarming rate. He's been playing for what, 5 or 6 seasons now? Felton has been playing for 3 months. The season is over, take the lumps and let the kid get minutes and learn through experience.

 

[lr591902]

We get it you don’t think Sha is a good coach

 

[radecicco]

Of course Felton is the future. I’m sure Holloway is trying to figure out how do I win a game today while developing guys for the future.

 

[radecicco]

Of course Felton is the future. I’m sure Holloway is trying to figure out how do I win a game today while developing guys for the future.

 

[Wolf11642]

His obvious loyalty to Wusu is beyond ridiculous. Giving Dylan 38 minutes in an offensive shootout where he couldn’t hit anything is coaching malpractice.

Add in that our best player by far had to sit long stretches with foul trouble and he continued to bury Felton on the bench with only 11 minutes played.

Felton has shown the entire season he has a very good shot and offensive ability.

This loyalty to Wusu has fully reached unacceptable levels.

If Felton is fed up and leaves and we can’t afford Coleman where are we next year? Same crappy place we are now if not worse if that’s fathomable.

Felton can barely dribble. Literally he looks down at the ball like he’s scared he’s going to lose his handle. He’s no more of a point guard than Wusu is

 

[dehere23]

Felton can barely dribble. Literally he looks down at the ball like he’s scared he’s going to lose his handle. He’s no more of a point guard than Wusu is

I get those who want to play the freshman/sophomores substantial minutes to see what we have for the future and who we want to try and retain. How they perform in practice is no doubt impacting that too.

But without DAW's performance against Depaul we are still winless. Sha wants to win games now, and most nights it is going to be hard to assume DAW won't be one of the best 5 options on the court for at least some stretches, if not most of the game.

 

[SHallguy2]

DAW - not a great ball handler. Can he create his own shot or just chucks shots up whenever the opportunity arises? In either event, he seems to miss them at an alarming rate. He's been playing for what, 5 or 6 seasons now? Felton has been playing for 3 months. The season is over, take the lumps and let the kid get minutes and learn through experience.

I’m sure his minutes along with Gus’s minutes will increase as the season progresses. Not always a good thing to play a Freshman a lot of minutes for his development. Sha is bringing him along at a nice pace trying to build on his successes. Coach knows what he’s doing, we are not at practice. Kid has a chance to be a star player, patience is a key ingredient to success.

 

[hallstorm]

It can be a confidence killer if you play a freshman too many minutes when they aren’t ready. Most freshmen aren’t ready for that kind of physical play and intensity.

I’m all about getting Felton some minutes, but you can’t just give him 30 and expect a quality performance over those 30 min.

Yesterday’s killer was Coleman getting a second foul early in the first half.

 

[HallGuy23]

We get it you don’t think Sha is a good coach

That’s not true

 

[Piratz]

The problem with DAW is he'll give us DePaul, but also Fordham, Hofstra, Georgetown, and Rutgers. He's just never been the kind of player that should have the ball in his hands this much. But Sha threw zeros with Dual and Harmon, so what do we expect? I'd love to know what we're paying him, Dual, Harmon, and Toumi.

A team of Richmond, Jenkins, Coleman, Middleton, and then nobody would've been better than this.

I see Felton has a guy with talent and do think he should play more, but I don't think he's a better player than DAW at this stage. Better shooter? Yes, by far. Better ball hander? Yes, by far. But he's much worse in everything else. He also doesn't have Pitino's "lateral movement". He's a shade better than Jaquan Sanders IMO. I would be playing him more when it's clear DAW doesn't have a shot, like yesterday.

 

[King of S]

His obvious loyalty to Wusu is beyond ridiculous. Giving Dylan 38 minutes in an offensive shootout where he couldn’t hit anything is coaching malpractice.

Add in that our best player by far had to sit long stretches with foul trouble and he continued to bury Felton on the bench with only 11 minutes played.

Felton has shown the entire season he has a very good shot and offensive ability.

This loyalty to Wusu has fully reached unacceptable levels.

If Felton is fed up and leaves and we can’t afford Coleman where are we next year? Same crappy place we are now if not worse if that’s fathomable.

Totally ridiculous is right- Felton makes one mistake and is bench most of the game. Wusu makes 15 mistakes and plays the whole game! Jerry C needs to ask Sha why??

 

[SHUHitman]

I’m sure his minutes along with Gus’s minutes will increase as the season progresses. Not always a good thing to play a Freshman a lot of minutes for his development. Sha is bringing him along at a nice pace trying to build on his successes. Coach knows what he’s doing, we are not at practice. Kid has a chance to be a star player, patience is a key ingredient to success.

I totally understand that. The issue that concerns me is, this isn't years past where a kid commits here and then earns his keep over a few seasons. A line must be balanced between bringing an underclassmen along slowly and ensuring he doesn't feel disenfranchised and walks.

I get it, I'm not in the locker room or in practice. But if we think this kid has talent and a future here....we better hope he has a practical mindset and loves Sha. Otherwise, a lot of other kids in his shoes would probably just transfer somewhere else next year.

 

[Halldan1]

With all due respect, he can be in the future. But he’s not at this point. He is becoming a contributor. Just because you say something doesn’t make it so. I listed several points why Felton is not ready for consistent extended minutes. You counter with nothing except name calling.

Felton yesterday

10 1/2 minutes -10

Defense is an issue and on the year 2 assists in 111 minutes. Playing the point most of the time.

 

[Seton75]

daw shot poorly imo his pg game is improving. it is not his natural position but i now think he is our best option there. if someone says season going nowhere so play felton i can get that. but daw is the better option imo.

 

[chickenbox]

Terrible shots that immediately go the other way are like turnovers, too

 

[shu67]

Agree that Wusu is what he is. But to say Felton is the answer is not accurate. He can’t penetrate. He’s slow. He was embarrassed in the first half for a pick six layup when the team had a nice rhythm going. At this point he’s not a good defender. Should he have played more than 11 minutes, maybe but I don’t see him as a consistent 15-18 minutes player yet. He is a developing player. He can make a shot when open. There are two issues with this team personnel wise— 1. Dual and Harmon didn’t pan out and 2. our big men can’t score and don’t provide any rim protection.

So you want to bench Felton because he not a good defender? Who gave PU 91 points? Sure wasn't Felton he only played 11 minutes. So if you want to bench him why don't you want to bench the other guys who played far more and gave up 91 points?

Your critique does not hold up under scrutiny!

Felton may Not be the answer this year but you must play him lots now to find out if he can contribute more next year (if he stays) and also to help him develop. If he is not playing today how do you expect him to be the player you want him to be next year. It's not like this team is going to a post season. So what is the harm?

 

[shu67]

Felton yesterday

10 1/2 minutes -10

Defense is an issue and on the year 2 assists in 111 minutes. Playing the point most of the time.

10 1/2 minutes is not enough to judge Felton so forget about the -10. How about judging the upper classmen who gave up 91 points?

As far as assists go you pass the ball and the player getting it misses so 0 assists. We are a terrible offensive team and it is really hard to get assists with this group. Mostly one on one basketball early on.

There are 11 teams in the BE and we are at the bottom of the league (11th) in assists and field goal percentage. The stats are very telling.

It is Not Felton's fault he does not have more assists. It's a problem with the players he passes the ball to.

 

[HallGuy23]

10 1/2 minutes is not enough to judge Felton so forget about the -10. How about judging the upper classmen who gave up 91 points?

As far as assists go you pass the ball and the player getting it misses so 0 assists. We are a terrible offensive team and it is really hard to get assists with this group. Mostly one on one basketball early on.

There are 11 teams in the BE and we are at the bottom of the league (11th) in assists and field goal percentage. The stats are very telling.

It is Not Felton's fault he does not have more assists. It's a problem with the players he passes the ball to.

Never thought I’d agree with SHU67.. the old timer brought his fastball today. Two good posts in a row

 

[Blueswayedshus]

Felton may have potential, but he is not the immediate answer. Looked lost several times yesterday. The good news is that Jenkins seems to have bounced back and Prince is playing much better. Shaheen may be playing Gus more but it’s not to prepare him for the future. Gus is not close to a valuable Big East player. Unless he comes cheap, I don’t expect to see him next year.

 

[HallGuy23]

Felton yesterday

10 1/2 minutes -10

Defense is an issue and on the year 2 assists in 111 minutes. Playing the point most of the time.

And what’s this teams biggest issue? Scoring. Something Wusu can’t do and something Felton can do.

Our defense has been exposed against better teams. It’s not an individual problem. 81ppg allowed in Big East play against fairly easy competition. Sure let’s blame the only freshman hope we have.

 

[Section112]

Felton needs to play a little more. But he also does not appear to be a PG at all backed up by his ridiculously low assists. He is also struggling defensively. We are asking DAW to do too much but he’s our best defender. All those things can be true.

We struck out on our PG transfers this year and Sha has no real answers right now.