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Sina Considering Three Schools

Originally posted by SHUMAN:
Good luck to him. I'd go to Stanford in a second if I was him.
+1

Stanford will change his life in way that neither BC nor UM (great schools in their own right) will. Perfect time to be in the heart of Silicon Valley. That school takes care of their athletes post-graduation as well.

Great weather and campus to boot.
 
This really hurts. I hope the teammate(s) who disparaged him and his abilities look at those choices and come to realize how distorted their values are and how ignorant they are of the game. He is a solid player who knows the game and his own limitations far better than some of the heralded members of this team. It makes me sick to lose a young man like this. I hope he does for one of those schools what TJ MConnell, did for Arizona. This program and the people responsible for it disgust me.
 
Good luck to him. If you put him in an offense with structure and that has some purposeful sets he will be a very good contributor to a D1 program.
 
Time will tell on Sina but I don't think he was that good. Not a point guard bc of high dribble and inability to handle pressure, not a shooting guard bc didn't have a consistent shot and inability to drive, defense liability as well. If he gets into one of those programs good luck to him in getting some PT.

This post was edited on 3/24 11:01 PM by HallBall02
 
Originally posted by HallBall02:
Time will tell on Sina but I don't think he was that good. Not a point guard bc of high dribble and inability to handle pressure, not a shooting guard bc didn't have a consistent shot and inability to drive, defense liability as well. If he gets into one of those programs good luck to him in getting some PT.

This post was edited on 3/24 11:01 PM by HallBall02
He is a zone buster. Can't really create his own shot but can thrive next to a penetrating guard.

I think he was very poorly managed here.

in fact, the biggest problems I have seen under Willard is poor player management.
 
Originally posted by SHUMike:

IMO his 3 schools should be William Patterson, Montclair State and Kean
What an ignorant comment. You assume his decision is based solely on basketball. With someone of his ability, he should be looking at the best academic institutions he could possibly gain acceptance into and use his basketball skills as a vehicle to a first rate education. Especially if he knows basketball is not a career for him.
 
Great kid. He can't go wrong with any of these.

How the hell do we lose a smart articulate kid like this?

I mutter about this program every damn waking hour.
 
Oh please blackie. No place disparaged him more than this forum. If you thought he deserved the most minutes you are in a small minority.
 
Originally posted by lwyrup:


Originally posted by SHUMike:

IMO his 3 schools should be William Patterson, Montclair State and Kean
What an ignorant comment. You assume his decision is based solely on basketball. With someone of his ability, he should be looking at the best academic institutions he could possibly gain acceptance into and use his basketball skills as a vehicle to a first rate education. Especially if he knows basketball is not a career for him.
Do you think his reason for leaving was because of the education that he was receiving at Seton Hall? He left strictly for basketball reasons. The one game he didn't start he left. He and his father are both quitters.
I wish him luck but I don't see him being a basketball legend at any of the teams on his list.
 
Originally posted by BostonBlackie:
This really hurts. I hope the teammate(s) who disparaged him and his abilities look at those choices and come to realize how distorted their values are and how ignorant they are of the game. He is a solid player who knows the game and his own limitations far better than some of the heralded members of this team. It makes me sick to lose a young man like this. I hope he does for one of those schools what TJ MConnell, did for Arizona. This program and the people responsible for it disgust me.
He quit on the team. In mid season. He would be a role player on any of these teams, the role he should have been playing at SHU. He should not have been a 32+ minute man at SHU, and he won't be at any of those schools either.
 
Originally posted by Fordham_57:
I wish him the best of luck in whatever he chooses to do. Frank
I'm with you Frank. It's clear to me that team chemistry is great and this team has nowhere to go but up so it's hard for me to believe that Jaren does not want to be part of this (tongue firmly in cheek).
 
if I were Sina I'd go to the best academic institution possible. If those 3 schools are correct; he really can't go wrong. Good luck to him.
 
Why would we care where a quitter is gong to school. My take on Sina is that he was not comfortable in the locker room atmosphere either year. I attended the pre-season tourney in St. Thomas and noticed at the time that he was the only player not hanging out with his teammates at lunch or at night. We know he told Willard he wanted to leave over the summer because of these issues and was convinced to stay by the promise of more playing time. As long as this promise was kept he stayed. The minute he lost his starting role he quit. My seats are directly opposite the Seton Hall bench and he was a petulant child that day. He seems like a great kid when you meet him and I am sorry that things did not work out but in this situation he was a spoiled brat. He cut and ran from the team when he lost his starting job and that is not what you should do. Please stop saying he was bullied by his urban teammates it is not true.
 
Originally posted by lr591902:
Please stop saying he was bullied by his urban teammates it is not true.
Please stop saying it was because he didn't start one game, because that's not true.
 
Originally posted by BostonBlackie:
This really hurts. I hope the teammate(s) who disparaged him and his abilities look at those choices

I am surpurised by those three under any circumstances I think he will play less and be more overmatched than at the Hall.

Maybe he is just concentrating on a good eduction.
 
Originally posted by SHUMike:


Originally posted by lwyrup:


Originally posted by SHUMike:

IMO his 3 schools should be William Patterson, Montclair State and Kean
What an ignorant comment. You assume his decision is based solely on basketball. With someone of his ability, he should be looking at the best academic institutions he could possibly gain acceptance into and use his basketball skills as a vehicle to a first rate education. Especially if he knows basketball is not a career for him.
Do you think his reason for leaving was because of the education that he was receiving at Seton Hall? He left strictly for basketball reasons. The one game he didn't start he left. He and his father are both quitters.
I wish him luck but I don't see him being a basketball legend at any of the teams on his list.
I do not think him leaving was because of the education he was receiving. However, as speculated, I do believe it was due to off-the-court issues with other players/coaches. I agree that he and his father both quit on SHU. But he's still just a sophomore. Maybe he realizes his future is not playing basketball? Maybe he always realized that considering he originally committed to Northwestern. All I am saying is that, if playing time wasn't the issue, why would he limit his choices to those schools you mentioned when he could be getting a first rate education at Stanford, play maybe 15-20 minutes a game and have no real pressure on himself as a bench player?
 
Originally posted by MBF72:
Originally posted by BostonBlackie:
This really hurts. I hope the teammate(s) who disparaged him and his abilities look at those choices

I am surpurised by those three under any circumstances I think he will play less and be more overmatched than at the Hall.

Maybe he is just concentrating on a good eduction.
Exactly, he is not getting a sniff of 37 mpg in conference for any of those 3 schools. The good thing for him is when you watch Beilein coach, you know he gets it and he would actually use a guy like Sina for his strengths, which is not dribbling the ball 15-20 seconds of each possession. Sina can be a solid contributor to a good program who has a coach that knows how to use him. Good luck to him.
 
If I'm Sina I'm going to Michigan. Beilein will get the absolute most out of him. Best coach of those 3 schools by far.
 
Not more minutes. How could have possibly gotten more minutes? Just respect for what he gave us. Place Sina and Whitehead on a split screen handling the ball under pressure and what do you see? I see Sina maintaining possession and resetting an offense and I see Whitehead spin dribbling into oblivion. That's what should be respected.
 
Under pressure? Really? I think you are nuts if you think Sina excelled when attacked by a pressure defense. Sina has skills, but I don't think we exploited them.
 
Sina dribbled around the perimeter a lot. Rarely penetrated. Wouldn't call that "under pressure". He didn't turn the ball over, but didn't score or register many assists. Good kid, sucks the way things went down but wish him luck and glad he has these solid options available to him.
 
Sina is a catch-and-shoot guy, brings great energy and is a good defender. Beilein would turn him into a very useful player. For some reason Willard loved to use him as the primary ball handler despite it clearly not working.

He was originally committed to Carmody at Northwestern. That was a great idea for him, to play in a highly structured half court offense. How he and his dad went from Carmody to Willard is beyond me.
 
Stanford??? Holy Hell take that offer and run.. I would throw many of you off a bridge to get a free ride to Stanford.
 
Originally posted by Seton75:
Under pressure? Really? I think you are nuts if you think Sina excelled when attacked by a pressure defense. Sina has skills, but I don't think we exploited them.
Agreed. The only thing Seton Hall basketball exploits is its season ticket holders.
 
If true that Stanford offered, then you take it.
99.9999% of PG who are 6', shoot 3's at .320 and can't make layups under the basket with no one around would take that offer in a second. We will see were he ends up, but a Northwestern or Stanford would be lucky for him to get a scholarship offer.
 
Donnie, the only conclusion I can reach is that he quit when he lost his starting job because that is what happened. Maybe the timing was bad but his actions that night clearly indicated he was upset about not starting. I am not saying that it is why he quit I am just saying it was the last straw for him. The sad thing is that I feel if he had been played properly during his tenure at SHU he would have been very effective. He is a catch and shoot player who we forced into a point guard role. He is not suitable for that role at the Big East level. This probably caused resentment among his teammates and some defensiveness in his attitude.
 
Originally posted by lr591902:

Donnie, the only conclusion I can reach is that he quit when he lost his starting job because that is what happened. Maybe the timing was bad but his actions that night clearly indicated he was upset about not starting. I am not saying that it is why he quit I am just saying it was the last straw for him. The sad thing is that I feel if he had been played properly during his tenure at SHU he would have been very effective. He is a catch and shoot player who we forced into a point guard role. He is not suitable for that role at the Big East level. This probably caused resentment among his teammates and some defensiveness in his attitude.
Him getting bullied by IW and his posse is absolutely true 100%.
 
No he was not bullied by IW and his posse. Everyone involved has stated that this did not happen including the Sinas. In addition, he was going to leave over the summer before IW even got here. Please he left because he was no longer starting and he was not comfortable with the lack of discipline in the locker room by our coach. If he was still the starter in the game against Georgetown he would not have quit at that point.

I wish him well but I do not care where he is going or what he will do for other teams.
 
Originally posted by lr591902:
No he was not bullied by IW and his posse. Everyone involved has stated that this did not happen including the Sinas. In addition, he was going to leave over the summer before IW even got here. Please he left because he was no longer starting and he was not comfortable with the lack of discipline in the locker room by our coach. If he was still the starter in the game against Georgetown he would not have quit at that point.

I wish him well but I do not care where he is going or what he will do for other teams.
Plus 1000!
 
Actually, the Sinas said it had nothing to do with race, and took the high road. If you think he quit because he didn't start that one game, someone on here was just selling an old bridge across the East River.
 
Originally posted by lr591902:
No he was not bullied by IW and his posse. Everyone involved has stated that this did not happen including the Sinas.
Here's my problem with this idea: The report of bullying comes from apparently objective (and multiple) sources with no vested interest in the story. The denial comes from subjective sources with plenty of vested interest in the story and its perception.

I also know all about getting out in front of a story, and about squashing one, which I've had the displeasure of doing professionally many times. The narrative that ultimately wins out is not always the most accurate.
 
Again Bobby I believe the not starting was the last straw and not the only reason he quit. But he did quit mid-season and that is not something I can forgive. I really do not care if you don't like the coach or the other players, you finish what you started. Anything else is a lack of character.
 
I have tried to use the Sina mess as a teaching lesson to my teenage son. I told him that exclusive of extreme abusive treatment, Sina should not have quit on his team during the season. By doing so, he placed his teammates, coaches and school in a very precarious position.
 
Maybe he quit because our coach is clueless when it came to motivating a team and that the coach could not also not manage a locker room where this stuff comes up in locker rooms across the country. Combine the coaches incompetence with Jaren's trigger finger to change schools and there you have a mid season quit job.
 
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