Or the Kentucky fan crying in his beer after the big SHU win in OT?
Snowflakes Spotted on Campus
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You two want to take this offline? We get it you agree with each other. Dan we ready to drop this one?
Good, we'll just appoint you the arbiter of all human trauma. I feel reassured knowing it's all in your capable, knowledgeable mitts.
These dogs are trained and certified as "therapy dogs." They were not conceived as an entity for the sole benefit of college students who have to take final exams. Their roles are broad and does, in fact, extend to helping combat veterans. Their use at Seton Hall this week is less critical, I think we'd all agree - as would the "snowflakes" in question - but it's not without any merit. I also managed to get through my finals without the benefit of therapy dogs, but had they been available on campus, I probably would have made it my business to stop by and have some fun with them, because ... well, because why not? I can't think of a single reason why not, actually. It's not the kind of thing that either the school or the dogs' handlers thought they would have to justify to anyone. In fact, the handlers' motivation is simply to create increased awareness about their dogs and how they help others.
You've probably noticed that in the competitive and often integrated worlds of student life, enrollment management, advancement, and alumni affairs, universities have all placed premiums on student amenities, from plusher dorms to expanded recreational facilities to broader dining options, all the way down to therapy dogs on campus. They need to do all of this in order to compete for students, and then ensure a positive student experience so that these students, in turn become satisfied and engaged alumni.
So much fuss about a simple amenity provided to students. So much concern about therapy dogs. I'm more worried about the effect on society of Pavlov's dogs - the ones who start involuntarily salivating whenever someone rings the trite bell of the culture wars.
So everyone is getting all worked up over them being therapy dogs? You know, ones proven to interact with many people without getting stressed or acting out?
I can't imagine an employee of the university taking a risk and providing any old unproven dog, who might react badly, possibly getting that employee in trouble for choosing so foolishly, possibly the school in trouble, probably with no insurance coverage for any damage because they didn't take proper precautions.
Students stressing about a meaningless college exam is silly. No different than you or me stressing about whatever meaningless jobs we hold. I gather there are some among us who struggle with mundane life functions due to a variety of legitimate psychological traumas. If those folks feel better petting a dog, I say pet away. Who am I to judge? If a bunch of other kids want to come by and pet a dog too, WTF do I care?
You do realize that most students that go and pet these dogs just go to interact with a dog. Not because they are stressing out about a class lol
They’ve been doing this for a while. Years now.
We could solve a lot of problems if people would just pet a dog when they feel crazed, lol.
We could solve a lot of problems if people would just pet a dog when they feel crazed, lol.
We should have a completely separate forum for comfort dogs.
Seems as if this thread is the result of our going a full seven days without a basketball game.
Seems as if this thread is the result of our going a full seven days without a basketball game.
Just don’t give him a pretzel.... that would stress me out…
Not sure when you graduated but I did during the PJ years. I'm pretty sure "therapy dogs" weren't even a thing then. Safe spaces? Nope. Heck PTSD for returning soldiers was still called "shell shock" and certainly not used to describe college students mental state after an exam. It's not the dogs per say. It's the whole mentality of having to protect everyone from everything. We're creating a society who can't deal with adversity or losing. Anything that doesn't go their way, their response is to protest and out shout everyone to attempt to get what they feel entitled to. We all face adversity and stress, but it's how you FACE it, (not running to a safe space) that makes you stronger.
I'm sure you are a bona fide warrior having endured the PJ years without the benefit of modern mental health therapy. Imagine, however, what a guy like Danny Hurley could have accomplished had he been able to stroke the soft fur of a golden retriever each time he was excoriated during a TV timeout.
What the hell are you talking about? You are literally complaining about college students petting dogs, and trying to say it's emblematic of some larger societal problem that doesn't actually exist. Get out in the real world and meet some new people who might actually teach you something, rather than let someone who knows nothing about a group (or an entire generation) define them for you.
This is absurd.
We are talking about probably less than 0.5% of the students on campus that went to pet a freaking dog and you are acting like this is some huge problem with society.
Some kids pet a dog and maybe it reduced some stress. Why do you care? Move on.
You sound like the generation that graduated 30 years before you criticizing your generation... I think I hear some kids on your lawn that need to be yelled at.
Merge, you sound like somebody that didn’t get a trophy...lol
Because I think that grown men making fun of kids who may want a free and fun outlet to reduce some stress and anxiety is pathetic?
Ok.
Do you follow current events at all? Ever listen to what this generation believes? Socialism over capitalism. Free healthcare and college for everyone, open borders. No one is illegal, just undocumented. When you ask how we're paying for all this you have geniuses like Ortez saying just pay for it and figure it out. Not saying every kid on SHU campus believes this but listen to some of the interviews conducted with college age students across the country. It's scary. You can't say this "here's your safe space and therapy animal" mentality isn't causing this entitlement mentality.
Look , I have 2 dogs, they're awesome. Pet the dogs all you want. It's not really about the dogs. It's the "oh you poor thing, you need therapy and that's why you failed" additude I oppose and suspect that many who have made similar comments to mine oppose as well.
Thanks. I just don't get the mentality. I grew up with kids who's fathers were legitimately messed up from Vietnam and today we're listening to snowflakes who claim to suffer from PTSD from the results of an election outcome they didn't like.
Man Saturday's game can't get here fast enough.
No. I have 2 teenagers who we've raised to be self sufficient not looking for hand outs or for us to tell them they are winners when they fail.
Those kids and their safe spaces, therapy dogs, and trophies are not the ones who created our national debt, broken healthcare system and exhorbanat college expenses.
Look elsewhere to place your blame.
I really think much of it comes down to parenting or lack thereof. As a generation, we need to collectively look in the mirror. Helicopter parents have created a lot of this feeling of entitlement and need for safe spaces. The reaction of many to the 2016 election is a great example. Let me resist and throw a tantrum instead of working harder to support better candidates for the next election.
Two months ago my German Shepard ran into the street and was barking at a neighbor walking her two corgies. He didn’t attack or bite...Thirty minutes later she called me screaming that I promise to leash my dog. I agreed and then politely asked her to pick up her dogs crap on my lawn going forward which I shared I had pictures of her letting them go and not bagging it multiple times. She then called me a “bully”...I was tempted to call her a “snowflake” but commended her for being a CNN viewer....I feel sorry for her kids. They don’t stand a chance.
I hope they never have any mental issues in their lives, but should they face troubles that are no fault of their own or yours, I hope they find some comfort from wherever it may be.
I have 2 kids as well and in all liklihood our parenting styles will probably not be significantly different. I just have empathy for the kids who have mental issues, or faced difficult circumstances in their lives and I am glad the university is hosting a free easy way to reduce some of their stresses that you and I know nothing about.
Not for nothing but we just had the highest midterm voter turnout in 100 years and young voters increased their turnout by 50% from the previous mid-term.
They aren’t just throwing tantrums. This generation is much more politically active at their ages than previous generations.
It's not about the dogs. It's about a mindset that exists today that nobody can face any kind of adversity without looking for somebody to blame or that there has to be a reason they were "wronged" or had to endure difficulty in life. Everyone has to feel warm and fuzzy at all times! They have to be in their "safe spaces."
Reality check: the world is a tough place and people who succeed are the ones who respond to setbacks and adversity with strength and extra determination. Our society is soft, and I say that as a millennial.
You must have missed all of the resist and pussyhat protests then....
I think you’re suggesting that this is something new though. It isn’t. Every generation has something similar. Social media may be showing it through a different lens than previous generations but it’s really not all that different. Just as the free love hippy generation grew up and ran the country, so too will the “safe space” generation.
Protesting and working harder for better candidates are not mutually exclusive as you implied in your previous post.
The protesting lead to people becoming more politically active.
