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St. John’s unlikely to get Chris Ledlum, Jordan Dingle back after court ruling

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By Zach Braziller

It sounds like Chris Ledlum’s and Jordan Dingle’s days as college basketball players are over.

A Queens judge has denied the St. John’s duo’s request for injunctive relief in their case against the NCAA, according to sources.

The former Ivy League players, who transferred into the program last offseason and were starters most of the year, are suing the NCAA for an extra year of eligibility.

Since the Ivy League didn’t play in 2020-21 – the year that was heavily impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic and didn’t count as part of a student-athlete’s four years of eligibility – Ledlum and Dingle never got a fifth year like others.

Their waivers for a fifth year were denied by the NCAA, and so they took the NCAA to court, claiming that the governing sports body was in violation of New York antitrust and NIL laws and alleging that they are suffering “irreparable harm” from losing out on a fifth year.

The judge didn’t see it their way, however.

St. John’s was hoping to bring the duo back, believing they would add to an already strong roster.

Sophomores RJ Luis and Zuby Ejiofor and freshmen Brady Dunlap and Simeon Wilcher are all returning, forming a quality young nucleus that was fortified by key transfer additions Kadary Richmond (Seton Hall), Deivon Smith (Utah) and Aaron Scott (North Texas).

The Johnnies are somewhat thin up front, and felt bringing back Ledlum would have solved that problem.

Instead, they will need to look elsewhere to fill that void.

Florida State transfer Jamir Watkins, who is testing the NBA draft waters – players have until Wednesday to take their name out of the draft – is one possibility.

Even without Ledlum and Dingle, St. John’s only has one open scholarship remaining.
 
Good news. 😢
Yeah it is always good news when the corrupt NCAA denies two scholar athletes who graduated from Penn and Harvard the ability to play an extra COVID year like everyone else.

All the while they have created a mess of a system with no rules anywhere else. Reward the knuckleheads and punish the scholars. The NCAA way.

That is why the NCAA is finished and college basketball is now a pro sport where the schools with the most money will be the only ones that have the chance to win a championship at every level.
 
Pitino and Repole will bring in a power forward within the next weeks/month who is bigger, better, and more talented than Ledlum…but that is not the point.
 
The NCAA is the only organization in the world dumb enough to give disparate treatment to athletes from the Ivy League that chose to focus on academics as much if not more than athletics. Meanwhile you'll have guys playing next year on their fourth school in five years.
 
The NCAA is the only organization in the world dumb enough to give disparate treatment to athletes from the Ivy League that chose to focus on academics as much if not more than athletics. Meanwhile you'll have guys playing next year on their fourth school in five years.
Does this mean Manon is in the same boat as these kids? If so we may have dodged one there by not getting him.
 
The NCAA is the only organization in the world dumb enough to give disparate treatment to athletes from the Ivy League that chose to focus on academics as much if not more than athletics. Meanwhile you'll have guys playing next year on their fourth school in five years.
And yes, I don’t understand how the Ivy kids don’t get the extra COVID year but everyone else does. But that’s the NCAA for you.
 
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Why did Bryce Aiken get a fifth year?
Aiken was at Seton Hall during the 2020-21 season which is the year in question.

And yes, I don’t understand how the Ivy kids don’t get the extra COVID year but everyone else does. But that’s the NCAA for you.
Completely agree. You (the NCAA) made a blanket rule but then exclude the athletes that the rule was created for in the first place.
 
Yeah it is always good news when the corrupt NCAA denies two scholar athletes who graduated from Penn and Harvard the ability to play an extra COVID year like everyone else.

All the while they have created a mess of a system with no rules anywhere else. Reward the knuckleheads and punish the scholars. The NCAA way.

That is why the NCAA is finished and college basketball is now a pro sport where the schools with the most money will be the only ones that have the chance to win a championship at every level.
Oh, stop with the bullshit.

All these players getting 5 years got 4 plus a screwed up Covid year. Why should they get 5 unaffected years?

Boo-effing-hoo.
 
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I don’t think anyone should have gotten the 5th year. But I don’t understand why Ivy kids are treated differently here.
 
I don’t think anyone should have gotten the 5th year. But I don’t understand why Ivy kids are treated differently here.
They’re not being treated any differently than the 10s of thousands of kids who get 4 years.

The decision was made that 20-21 didn’t count. Just because the ivys didn’t play, too bad.

They’re petitioning to get another year like a few thousand kids got, but it’s not fair to get a 5th completely full, unaffected year.

Maybe kids who graduated in 2020 should be able to petition for a 5th year because they missed the post season?
 
They’re not being treated any differently than the 10s of thousands of kids who get 4 years.

The decision was made that 20-21 didn’t count. Just because the ivys didn’t play, too bad.

They’re petitioning to get another year like a few thousand kids got, but it’s not fair to get a 5th completely full, unaffected year.

Maybe kids who graduated in 2020 should be able to petition for a 5th year because they missed the post season?
Got it. Still think the “spirit” of the extra year rule should apply to those Ivy kids generally because their conference opted not to play when others did. Seems silly for the NCAA to die in this hill given the utter garbage that goes on now with multi-time transfers, BS waivers and of course our fans being expected to pay the kids directly by purchasing hats, taking boat rides or playing in golf tournaments, in addition to just blankety cutting checks. But that’s the NCAA for you.
 
Yeah it is always good news when the corrupt NCAA denies two scholar athletes who graduated from Penn and Harvard the ability to play an extra COVID year like everyone else.

All the while they have created a mess of a system with no rules anywhere else. Reward the knuckleheads and punish the scholars. The NCAA way.

That is why the NCAA is finished and college basketball is now a pro sport where the schools with the most money will be the only ones that have the chance to win a championship at every level.
Begging to be sued when it affects just two. NCAA is just inherently stupid and it ends up paying with Our money. ( all the while denying Big East from getting a bigger share of the tournament pool--Way to speak up Val).
 
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