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Supreme Court Opens up Concealed Carry

So you think that the government should be able to ban oral and anal sex, gay marriage and contraceptives? Are you really serious?

Huh? I said nothing of the sort. What I did was ask you a question - which you didn't answer, not surprisingly. Why is it frightening that one justice might want to also revisit past decisions?
 
So you think that the government should be able to ban oral and anal sex, gay marriage and contraceptives? Are you really serious?

No worries Cern, you will still be able to take one in the back door unless your state enacts something.

Nothing has been said about banning anything including abortions.

This is about the constitution and states rights. The court is getting the federal government out of things they should not be involved with.

I suggest you contact your state representatives to begin ensuring your Hershey Highway proclivity is preserved. 🤣
 
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Huh? I said nothing of the sort. What I did was ask you a question - which you didn't answer, not surprisingly. Why is it frightening that one justice might want to also revisit past decisions?
That is a clear signal what can be changed. The rational behind overturning Roe was that there was not a privacy right of abortion deeply rooted in the history of this nation. Well, that is where the true weakness of the decision lies. Privacy rights of gay marriage, interracial marriage, contraception and oral and or anal sex were not deeply rooted as well. Thus, Thomas is correct if the rational to overturn Roe v Wade is applied consistently, then those privacy rights can fall as well.
 
No worries Cern, you will still be able to take one in the back door unless your state enacts something.

Nothing has been said about banning anything including abortions.

This is about the constitution and states rights. The court is getting the federal government out of things they should not be involved with.

I suggest you contact your state representatives to begin ensuring your Hershey Highway proclivity is preserved. 🤣
Beside your stupid jokes, your claim that this does not ban anything is incorrect too. I want to see how many states put up for referendum whether abortion should be legal or illegal. If you really want to get to the will of the people, then the states should put it up for referendum. I am going to take a wild guess and that won’t happen in any state.

Ironically, with abortion, the federal government was out of a persons life. Each was free to choose what to do. Now, if you live ina state that bans abortion, then the government, the state, is dictating you what to do. It’s more governmental interference in very personal areas of life that it should not be involved in. It’s exactly the opposite that which u argue.
 
I argued against the size and control of the federal government and will continue to do so.

I also argued that the decision doesn't ban abortion or the other hypotheticals that you brought into the argument. As a lawyer I would think you would know that. You tend to get very strict with your legal opinions but in this case you gave it a lot of leeway.

The jokes were warranted because for some reason you brought up anal sex no reason. What do you expect when you tee it up like that. Lol.
 
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I argued against the size and control of the federal government and will continue to do so.

I also argued that the decision doesn't ban abortion or the other hypotheticals that you brought into the argument. As a lawyer I would think you would know that. You tend to get very strict with your legal opinions but in this case you gave it a lot of leeway.

The jokes were warranted because for some reason you brought up anal sex no reason. What do you expect when you tee it up like that. Lol.
I respect funny. But unfortunately you aren’t.

So if it’s the State interfering with your personal privacy issues that’s ok as long as it is not the federal government. Ok.
 
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Well, the Supreme Court has opened up the country to the Wild West. Everyone will be carrying guns. in this country. How law enforcement will react to this is beyond me. It looks like with the makeup of this Court, that there will be absolutely very little restrictions on firearms. Besides convicted felons, looks like almost everyone can carry outside the home.

Forget any gun control legislation now.

LOL! They did away with concealed carry permits in Georgia a while ago and the state has not turned into the wild west. You may be interested to know that there is a law on the books against Murder.
 
Roberts is a total pussy.He called Obama care mandate a tax so he could vote to uphold it,didn’t want to take appeals from state legislatures on 2020 election,now don’t address Roe because people might get angry.Pleasing the masses not SCOUTS role hope next Chief Justice doesn’t feel the need to be loved in the DC cocktail circut
 
LOL! They did away with concealed carry permits in Georgia a while ago and the state has not turned into the wild west. You may be interested to know that there is a law on the books against Murder.
Funny you should say this. Check out the the states with the top murder rates. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/murder-rate-by-state

1 Louisiana
2 Missouri
3 Nevada
4 Maryland
5 Arkansas
6 Alaska
7 Alabama
8 Mississippi
9 Illinois
10 South Carolina

Georgia? It is at 13th highest murder rate.

New York and New Jersey? 16 and 20th lowest rate.
 
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LOL! They did away with concealed carry permits in Georgia a while ago and the state has not turned into the wild west. You may be interested to know that there is a law on the books against Murder.
I actually thought that was something very recent. So at this time I would doubt there are any stats that show a change in behavior in either direction.

Funny you should say this. Check out the the states with the top murder rates. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/murder-rate-by-state

1 Louisiana
2 Missouri
3 Nevada
4 Maryland
5 Arkansas
6 Alaska
7 Alabama
8 Mississippi
9 Illinois
10 South Carolina

Georgia? It is at 13th highest murder rate.

New York and New Jersey? 16 and 20th lowest rate.
Those numbers are from 2017. Back at that time NYC wasn't the dumpster fire it has become, bail reform isn't what it is today, and there have been quite a few changes that make me think the numbers in 2020 won't be equal to those of 2017. I'm curious as to what the 2021 numbers are and how those numbers will be impacted by the law change.
 
I actually thought that was something very recent. So at this time I would doubt there are any stats that show a change in behavior in either direction.


Those numbers are from 2017. Back at that time NYC wasn't the dumpster fire it has become, bail reform isn't what it is today, and there have been quite a few changes that make me think the numbers in 2020 won't be equal to those of 2017. I'm curious as to what the 2021 numbers are and how those numbers will be impacted by the law change.
Here are the 2020 stats. The numbers rankings are even better for NJ and NY. Georgia performed worse. Moved up to the 11th highest homicide rate. The 7 states with the highest murder rates are all from the south. There is an interesting trend here. The states with the highest murder rates are mostly red states. (7 out of 10). The states with the lowest are mostly blue. (7 out of 10)

 
Here are the 2020 stats. The numbers rankings are even better for NJ and NY. Georgia performed worse. Moved up to the 11th highest homicide rate. The 7 states with the highest murder rates are all from the south. There is an interesting trend here. The states with the highest murder rates are mostly red states. (7 out of 10). The states with the lowest are mostly blue. (7 out of 10)

So NY went from 2.8 to 4.7 in 3 years? Yikes. Looks like just about everywhere went up in a year we were locked down. How is that possible?
 
So NY went from 2.8 to 4.7 in 3 years? Yikes. Looks like just about everywhere went up in a year we were locked down. How is that possible?
Georgia went from 7.9 in 2017 to 10.5 in those three years. Double the murder rate of NY. People didn't realize it but the murder rate was on the rise during those years.
 
Georgia went from 7.9 in 2017 to 10.5 in those three years. Double the murder rate of NY. People didn't realize it but the murder rate was on the rise during those years.
You can manipulate the numbers any way you want. Double the murder rate of NY or NY rose much more percentage wise than Georgia. Oh the beauty of numbers. To the original point I made with Georgia recently making changes to its conceal carry laws, it looks like Georgia was a shit show prior to the change. Maybe this makes it better, maybe it doesn’t, but what happened prior to the law change in is irrelevant to what’s happening now.
 
The stats are meaningless. No way to distinguish deaths resulting from someone having a concealed carry in public. Drug related homicides and domestic dispute typically drive the numbers.
 
Here are the 2020 stats. The numbers rankings are even better for NJ and NY. Georgia performed worse. Moved up to the 11th highest homicide rate. The 7 states with the highest murder rates are all from the south. There is an interesting trend here. The states with the highest murder rates are mostly red states. (7 out of 10). The states with the lowest are mostly blue. (7 out of 10)


Funny how you neglected to say what the political affiliation of the mayors of the largest cities in those states are. The cities are where most of the crimes take place.
 

this is not the first incident in the last few days here.

both men had conceal carry. this was a road rage incident. i think cern was predicting this type of thing will start trending upward. theres no worry about consequences anymore
 
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