ADVERTISEMENT

The Second Wave

S

shufan1993

All American
Gold Member
Apr 24, 2017
3,013
644
113
Hello All- I hope everyone is staying healthy and doing well during this very very difficult time in this country. I went through some posts from February and March. I just laugh when some posters called this pandemic a "Political Hoax" and called me an "Idiot" and promoting fear for a virus that has killed 245,000+ people in this country.

I am now confirming as I predicted back in April we are now in the second wave. I said in the past that we are in for a very difficult winter. It appears this prediction is now true. This virus is running rampant in the country now. I tried to warn people in this message board and people made fun of me for it. I have not left my house since March 15th and I was hoping to be leaving by year end but now this is clearly not the case. I am now hoping for a timeline of April to July 2021.

At last- a great poster on this board said the pandemic is over in NJ. That is clearly not the case.
 
Merge said:
You also said the state would shut down in September and open up before the election... so lets just skip the troll account predictions.
Click to expand...

I do admit that prediction was incorrect. That plan went south as the cases went down in late September/early October. Murphy would have faced a lot of backlash if that plan went through. My contact close to Murphy is not ruling out a second shut down.

Was I wrong on the second wave? You also said yourself that the purpose of the 1st shutdown was to help the hospitals with their capacity issues. Would you support a second shut down?
 
You should also know that your clown show posting was disputed by about 4 people arguing with you, so you might want to expand your platform beyond this single message board.
 
  • Like
Reactions: donnie_baseball
SHU fan is right about Murphy not ruling out a second shutdown in fact it is probably 50/50 at this point.
 
ed odowd said:
SHU fan is right about Murphy not ruling out a second shutdown in fact it is probably 50/50 at this point.
Click to expand...

Thank you Ed. Those are the optics right now. Like I said the second shutdown was planned in September but it wouldn't have been a good look.
 
My source close to the Murphy admin is saying a shut down should be announced sometime later this week or early next week. Similar to the last shut down. Still questionable on schools. The governor is still discussing. He might leave it up to the districts. Restaurants will convert to take out only and non essential businesses will be closed. Get ready!

**Update: Lockdown will probably run until late January/Early February.
 
shufan1993 said:
@Merge Will you agree with this shut down?
Click to expand...
If they’re doing a shut down so be it, just understand the consequences. The state will be in a probably the biggest financial crisis ever. The biggest problem I have is a person’s faith is non essential, their booze is.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HALL85
SHUHoopsFan said:
If they’re doing a shut down so be it, just understand the consequences. The state will be in a probably the biggest financial crisis ever. The biggest problem I have is a person’s faith is non essential, their booze is.
Click to expand...
you can practice faith at home?
 
SHUHoopsFan said:
Faith is more than just weekly masses. Weddings, funerals...no I cannot.
Click to expand...
weddings and funerals dont really qualify as faith. you can have both of them without being religiously affiliated. they are large gatherings though, and my sister was directly affected by a large wedding gathering. makes sense to put a pause on those.

so, is there anything strictly related to faith that you cant do at home? is god not omnipresent?

i think liquor/beer stores shouldnt be essential, but you have alcoholics that can die without it. yes they got themselves in that jam but thats the one reason i can think of why they are open. without them all of them would load the hospitals.
 
Just the economic rebuild from this disaster will take a couple decades to rebuild from. We will be going into and out of shut downs for years to come.
 
SHUSA said:
weddings and funerals dont really qualify as faith. you can have both of them without being religiously affiliated. they are large gatherings though, and my sister was directly affected by a large wedding gathering. makes sense to put a pause on those.

so, is there anything strictly related to faith that you cant do at home? is god not omnipresent?

i think liquor/beer stores shouldnt be essential, but you have alcoholics that can die without it. yes they got themselves in that jam but thats the one reason i can think of why they are open. without them all of them would load the hospitals.
Click to expand...
Sacrament of marriage isn’t religious?
By your logic can’t people drink something other than alcohol?
 
SHUHoopsFan said:
Sacrament of marriage isn’t religious?
By your logic can’t people drink something other than alcohol?
Click to expand...
marriage can be whatever you want it to be, but the wedding, as you described, is the event. and that event does not have to strictly be religious and is a known super spreader. as long as you can file the paperwork then its good. square is a rectangle but a rectangle not a square. funerals need to be figured out because its something you cant avoid or plan for.

alcoholics will die or be hospitalized without alcohol. estimated 15m people suffer from it as a disorder in america.
 
SHUSA said:
marriage can be whatever you want it to be, but the wedding, as you described, is the event. and that event does not have to strictly be religious and is a known super spreader. as long as you can file the paperwork then its good. square is a rectangle but a rectangle not a square. funerals need to be figured out because its something you cant avoid or plan for.

alcoholics will die or be hospitalized without alcohol. estimated 15m people suffer from it as a disorder in america.
Click to expand...
Alcoholics actually die from not having a drink? Really?

Would love to watch you have this conversation about faith with the Orthodox community.
 
SHUHoopsFan said:
If they’re doing a shut down so be it, just understand the consequences. The state will be in a probably the biggest financial crisis ever. The biggest problem I have is a person’s faith is non essential, their booze is.
Click to expand...
If I didn't have some drinks during this whole thing, I think I would go bat shit crazy. Alcohol is for the sanity for the masses.
 
HALL85 said:
Alcoholics actually die from not having a drink? Really?

Would love to watch you have this conversation about faith with the Orthodox community.
Click to expand...
i dont think alcohol should be considered essential but im assuming that is the reason.

and yea alcoholics can absolutely die from not having a drink. its called fatal withdraw its on of the killer Bs. benzos, barbituates, and booze. you cant cut an addict off from these because they could have fatal complications from withdraw

butttt as i stated before my supposed reasoning is not about death, its about keeping more people out of the hospital. its a short term fix obv bad long term.
 
shufan1993 said:
Do you seriously think we will be out of this mess in the distant future? This will end up being the great depression x 10 with the health and economic impact.
Click to expand...
Couple decades? Lol, 20 years?

in the last 20 years we’ve faced multiple bubbles, implosions, recoveries. If you don’t understand the pace of technological advance and science, not worth explaining.

But no, wear your hazmat suit for the rest of your life.
 
sami said:
Couple decades? Lol, 20 years?

in the last 20 years we’ve faced multiple bubbles, implosions, recoveries. If you don’t understand the pace of technological advance and science, not worth explaining.

But no, wear your hazmat suit for the rest of your life.
Click to expand...

I mean if you don't understand the implications of a once in a century pandemic I can't help you either. This is something we have never seen before. Shutdowns will be coming for years to come and businesses will continue to shut down.
 
shufan1993 said:
@sami How do you see the next few years panning out?
Click to expand...
As I am in no position of authority to enact anything, I’ll simply give some thoughts of what I think smarter and more powerful people will drive.

I see multiple, meaning 2 today and more in the coming months, vaccines getting out to the population. I think the next 6 months are going to be very dark, death tolls will rise, shut downs will occur, governments will be forced to act with monetary policy. By the summer, not only vaccines, but therapeutics will be prevalent to those that need them, medically we’ll turn a corner. Legislation will follow as there will be the need to pay the piper of monetary policy, probably not in 2021 but 2022 when the virus is behind us. It will hit corporate taxes, estate taxes, capital gains and government social programs. Social security full retirement age will be moved to age 70 and then 72 as the population ages and medical breakthroughs extend longevity. Harsh reality is people will work longer to get to that “retirement”.

The biggest problem is job elimination through technology that fights against the growing workforce due to longevity. Workforce aside, the other major issues we have is the development of another, larger housing bubble and a unsustainable higher education system and student debt levels that cannot be repaid (though I’m against outright forgiveness).

I don’t see forced mask wearing for the rest of our lives. I don’t see decades of economic disaster. I think it’s more likely that we are colonizing the moon in 20 years than the US government dictating daily life as you rail on. I also put some probability to the chance that there can be a disastrous global war that will derail everything I said above as space exploration and technological advancement will improve first strike capabilities worldwide.
 
cernjSHU said:
If I didn't have some drinks during this whole thing, I think I would go bat shit crazy. Alcohol is for the sanity for the masses.
Click to expand...
Very scientific. Thank you. What I need to get through the lockdown is important. If you think going to Church is important for your mental sanity you’re stupid. Good stuff.
 
SHUHoopsFan said:
Very scientific. Thank you. What I need to get through the lockdown is important. If you think going to Church is important for your mental sanity you’re stupid. Good stuff.
Click to expand...

They are really just entirely unrelated. The risk of getting / spreading the virus in a room filled with people is greater than getting / spreading the virus in a liquor store.

It is a shame. I get it... but that is the reality.
 
Merge said:
They are really just entirely unrelated. The risk of getting / spreading the virus in a room filled with people is greater than getting / spreading the virus in a liquor store.

It is a shame. I get it... but that is the reality.
Click to expand...
Can you explain how alcohol helps your immune system? Alcoholics must have the best immune systems. Follow the science. Not really sure we want people consuming alcohol to lower their immune system which could lead to loading up the hospitals with patients.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
Merge said:
You’re arguing things that no one is saying.
Click to expand...
I guess you don’t see the hypocrisy in that I want to take on the risk of going to church but won’t be able to, while people who increase their risk by lowering their immune system from alcohol can.
 
Merge said:
You’re arguing things that no one is saying.
Click to expand...

I love beer, but how is a liquor store any more safe than his right to assemble and practice faith?

How is home depot allowed to be open as well?
 
SHUHoopsFan said:
I guess you don’t see the hypocrisy in that I want to take on the risk of going to church but won’t be able to, while people who increase their risk by lowering their immune system from alcohol can.
Click to expand...

Any restriction going ahead should be based on limiting capacity. I’m not in favor of closing churches, but at the same time, allowing full attendance would be irresponsible.

If any shut downs are ahead of us, they should be due to the risk of transmission.
 
SHUHoopsFan said:
Very scientific. Thank you. What I need to get through the lockdown is important. If you think going to Church is important for your mental sanity you’re stupid. Good stuff.
Click to expand...
hmm Seems that you really do need to go to a church. I guess the Lord doesn’t go to your house and quite frankly who can blame Him.

You must be a lot of fun To be with.
 
Hello Merge. I agree with the above posters. How can a church should be forced to close but but people can gather for a black lives matter protest? How can a church be forced to close but your local liquor store stay open?
 
kniespolice said:
I love beer, but how is a liquor store any more safe than his right to assemble and practice faith?

How is home depot allowed to be open as well?
Click to expand...

FWIW, infection = exposure x time.
I don’t think people should be allowed to go to a liquor store and sit there for an hour in a crowd either.
Retail should have restrictions based on capacity, as should churches.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

SHallguy2

Hell to Pay

Replies
2
Views
458
Life Off the Ship
Rockaway
R
H

Meta ending fact-checking program

Replies
43
Views
1K
Life Off the Ship
shu09
S
P

Top Down Changes?

Replies
1
Views
819
Pirate Hoops Chat
Piratz
P
N

Making My Statement

Replies
20
Views
956
Life Off the Ship
SHUHoopsFan
SHUHoopsFan
SHallguy2

Drones

Replies
123
Views
4K
Life Off the Ship
knowknow456
knowknow456
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest posts

ADVERTISEMENT
Top Bottom
Back