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This team needs to improve fast

JTSHU

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Feb 9, 2015
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9 missed ft
15 TO
Starting pg isnt assertive enough
No BIG east caliber center
Femi and kc holes on offense
Tae in too long

Shaheen has got a ton of issues to deal with
 
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They still need to improve. Memphis did not look like a good team tonight. Take the win and move on but regardless this team needs to improve a lot.
Yep, we are grateful for that victory. The effort is certainly there, but meshing this roster is a tough assignment.
 
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I just think Samuel sat too long in the 2nd half. He needs to average 25 min a game to give us the best chance to win. A lit of new pieces including the coach so I'll give a BIG pass on the rotation for now.

At this point I really feel like between their offense and defensive blend

Richmond
J. Harris
T. Davis
Jackson
Samuel

give us the best chance to win. I know it's a wacky lineup but just my observations
 
I just think Samuel sat too long in the 2nd half. He needs to average 25 min a game to give us the best chance to win. A lit of new pieces including the coach so I'll give a BIG pass on the rotation for now.

At this point I really feel like between their offense and defensive blend

Richmond
J. Harris
T. Davis
Jackson
Samuel

give us the best chance to win. I know it's a wacky lineup but just my observations
Agreed. Id go with dawes over jamir. Better ball handler
 
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The line up is still a work in progress. I’m a bit confused with what Odukale is giving us with all his minutes at this point.

Someone said we have a bunch of mid-major players with a mid major coach. Well this is exactly the type of team he took to the Elite 8 last year. We will be fine.
 
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They still need to improve. Memphis did not look like a good team tonight. Take the win and move on but regardless this team needs to improve a lot.

Agree. A win is a win, but the original poster's observations are not wrong. The two games against good competition have been tough on the eyes.
 
They did everything they could to lose that game. If they could clean up the sloppy passing and keep the turnovers to a minimum they probably wouldn't have had to rely on a hail mary bankshot to win. I am surprised looking at the box score that they finished with a 70 percent at the free-throw line. Thankfully Dre isnt a liability at the stripe.
 
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Yeah the offense is tough on the eyes and we don’t have a go to guy on which you can build an offense right now. BUT, they made plays on both defense and offense down the stretch and Dre and Tyrese were superb from the line. They out toughed Memphis and pulled out a win. A building block victory.
 
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9 missed ft
15 TO
Starting pg isnt assertive enough
No BIG east caliber center
Femi and kc holes on offense
Tae in too long

Shaheen has got a ton of issues to deal with
Give some context. 9 missed FTS at 21/30. 70%. Would rank 150/352 NCAA teams season avg. Aka above average FT shooting at the D1 level.

Name me the people you consider BE caliber centers in the big east.

The rest is conjecture.

Relax.
 
They still need to improve. Memphis did not look like a good team tonight. Take the win and move on but regardless this team needs to improve a lot.
Agree that Memphis is not a great team.One great player in Davis and one brute under the boards who pushed around our PFs masquerading as centers.
 
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Give some context. 9 missed FTS at 21/30. 70%. Would rank 150/352 NCAA teams season avg. Aka above average FT shooting at the D1 level.

Name me the people you consider BE caliber centers in the big east.

The rest is conjecture.

Relax.
You never measure SHU against the other 352. You measure them against the Power 6 conferences and maybe a dozen other teams. Their foul shooting is below average compared to peers
 
They did everything they could to lose that game. If they could clean up the sloppy passing and keep the turnovers to a minimum they probably wouldn't have had to rely on a hail mary bankshot to win. I am surprised looking at the box score that they finished with a 70 percent at the free-throw line. Thankfully Dre isnt a liability at the stripe.
That 70% is very deceiving as we missed the majority of the front end of the one and one’s throughout the game and that in reality is like missing 2 although not scored that way. Nevertheless what a way to end a wonderful day!
 
I think Yetna’s absence can’t be emphasized enough when looking at the team so far. We look much better than I thought we would without him, and once he’s back, that’s an added dimension we need since the 4/5 spot is really where we lack that depth right now beyond Samuel. Still a lot to work on though and I’m sure Sha is going to be on top of it based on his postgame comments every game so far.
 
I think both Jackson and Samuel have signed on to Sha’s recipe of success. They are both playing inside better than then have in the past. Plus did you see Jackson diving for the loose ball early in the game.
 
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For all the talk about our missed free throws, why no mention of their missed free throws? They shot them worse than we did. 19/29 (66%). This game was very sloppy. We need to be thankful we walked away with a win which could very well be a difference maker in March.
 
It was a tough, physical, grind-out kind of a game against a team at our level perhaps slightly above. It wasn't pretty but we came back from down 6 with less than 4 to play and picked up a very important Q1 win.

We have a lot of new players and a new coach. The turnover situation should get better you'd think, but right now that part of the game is tough to watch. Seton Hall is 318th in turnover % in the country.
 
It was a tough, physical, grind-out kind of a game against a team at our level perhaps slightly above. It wasn't pretty but we came back from down 6 with less than 4 to play and picked up a very important Q1 win.

We have a lot of new players and a new coach. The turnover situation should get better you'd think, but right now that part of the game is tough to watch. Seton Hall is 318th in turnover % in the country.
+1. Just need to put things in perspective. One thing that strikes me about this team right now is that they are play offense at the same speed at which they played defense. Need to slow that down as that’s creating too many unforced turnovers.
 
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A good win against a name opponent is a plus for this team given some very obvious weaknesses and getting adjusted to a new coach and the way he wants this team to play. What you have to look for going forward is how well we minimize our weaknesses and how well we adjust to how the staff wants us to play.
 
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