Time to reassign Felt. He is not a "war time" (NIL era) athletic director.
Time for a change if we're going to survive in the NIL era
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Felt is a good guy but we need someone to lead, not follow and certainly not watch from the sidelines. Something needs to change. Is it him or someone/something else? You can’t keep doing the same thing and expecting different results. It just doesn’t work like that.
I just wish we had people with better experience running a department and fundraising
With a top notch business school at our disposal I just can't understand why we cannot come up with a better fundraising plan . Outside of the Legacy Wall (which I contributed $250 for) everything else is old,and uninviting (Christmas ornament ,watch ,socks and sweaters). What's next a candy sale !!! And by the way some people who bitch the loudest and do not contribute anything should start stepping up to the plate .
Yeah!!! Let’s fire Mara and Woody while we’re at it too!! A new AD is just gonna come sit at a desk and magically makes us a top 25 program. Why didn’t we think of this sooner?? I can’t wait to meet this genius of a person that’s out there waiting for our call.
i can see SHU getting that the first year or two. the following years? theres now way it's going to be an annual thing coming in. if it is then donate it all to st jude. NIL has killed college sports. and SHU is firmly in the have nots.
Last price tag i heard on the basketball facility was $40 mil? Really questionable investment at that cost if we are not competitive on NIL front.
Unless we establish some long-term, corporate partnerships, I don't see any way we will be able to sustainably ask, receive, and expect alumni and boosters to contribute 3-4 million dollars annually, or 2-3 million for that matter.
It’s not feasible, and yet when it’s brought up most people here want to ignore it or don’t want to accept the alternatives.
Geez, how many times do we have to review this: the basketball facility was committed to several years prior to the advent NIL. Unfortunate poor timing for SHU but regardless we needed to upgrade our basketball infrastructure.
going to a place for crap money with crap facilities is a tough sell
Going to a place for crap money with state of the art facilities to get you paid has a different ring to it. As much gate as the price tag gets it may mildly help
Going to a place for crap money with state of the art facilities to get you paid has a different ring to it. As much gate as the price tag gets it may mildly help
Not even close. More like $55M.
It will be finished early next month. There are pictures posted on the Trove. Later next week I'll bring them here. Absolutely gorgeous.
We have good fundraisers. Wish we had alums who will open their wallets.
Answer this: Have you? That’s rhetorical and not aimed at any one person.
The change is when the schools can pay players directly in late 2025. Obviously, Seton Hall will need to fundraise, but will not be solely dependent on collectives and donors. The school can prioritize and budget for NIL expense. It is a game changer for a school like Seton Hall. Monies are tax dedicated contributed to Pirate Blue and the school uses what it needs from it and OTHER REVENUE SOURCES to fund NIL needs.
Imagine if this year Sha was able to go to the Pres and say we can keep Kadary and Dre if we get XXXX more to pay in NIL? No more saying our donors are tapped.
Imagine if this year Sha was able to go to the Pres and say we can keep Kadary and Dre if we get XXXX more to pay in NIL? No more saying our donors are tapped.
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Keep in mind that the fund-raising for that facility took place well before NIL became a reality. The practice faciity was built for competitive reasons and it was an excellent and necessary decision at the time. Critcizing it now is an exercise in 20/20 hindsight and is neither fair nor accurate.
Is it a done that the schools will be able to contribute to their own NIL in the future? If so, the change is to start putting some real effort into the business side (actually they should do that regardless), particularly ticket sales. They're currently trying to fill a ~19k seat building (yes, the goal should be to eventually use all of them) with 2 ticket sales reps (who do a great job! This isn't their fault) and no dedicated service reps. It's simply impossible. We're trying to fill the same size building as pro teams with dozens of sales reps. Sales reps don't have to be expensive. Experienced ones may be, but you'll also get what you're paying for. On the volume/inexperience side start a student inside sales program with the business school that earns credits and pays commission only. It'll help each way more leads (of which we graduate 1500-2000 brand new ones every year) and earn those kids career changing experience, especially the ones trying to get into sports biz. Where's the down side?
I won't say much about ticketing strategy in general because obviously I'm not in the room there, but is it fair based on how the building's been looking to wonder if anything should be reevaluated? Look the team's performance isn't helping. The best ticketing strategy in the world isn't going to sell out the building for a losing team, it's just about maximizing your situation, but I can't help but feel the building could look better.
I won't say much about ticketing strategy in general because obviously I'm not in the room there, but is it fair based on how the building's been looking to wonder if anything should be reevaluated? Look the team's performance isn't helping. The best ticketing strategy in the world isn't going to sell out the building for a losing team, it's just about maximizing your situation, but I can't help but feel the building could look better.
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Ok, so you’re of the thinking that we should keep doing the same thing over and over but we should expect different results. Sounds like the perfect plan! You’re type of thinking is why we are where we are.
That’s on the low side of what schools have paid and, of course, we are the last ones to finally build something (should have been done 10 years ago but we don’t lead and we don’t follow, we watch to see what others do, we’re spectators).
Because they obviously don’t reach out to the business school. Maybe if they did they’d get new and better ideas.
No, you can certainly try new things. But go ahead and tell me what a new AD is going to do?! That’s my point. Same thing as owners in the pros. It’s so rare for that to make a difference. It’s only applicable in extreme cases such as the Oakland A’s and similar.
A new AD here will be stuck with the same budget, same facilities, same competition. Please tell me what a new AD will do to guarantee we improve as a program? How many AD’s have we had since the start of the Big East? I’m sure a lot. Were they all stupid and lazy or is it just a difficult job with no magic answer.
It’s nothing but hysteria that the useless talking heads on ESPN have made the masses believe makes a difference.
No it’s not… it’s still badly needed. Look around at what other schools have, even on the MAAC, CAA and America East level.
I'm not sure why people don't understand this. You need the money + the facilities, it's part of the total environment and commitment.
To remain competitive before NIL became a reality the quality of a school’s athletic infrastructure was a factor in recruiting and what I called the “infrastructure race” and the decision to commit to building a quality practice facility was the right one at that time.
It has always been, and will always be an arms race. Unfortunately there are three issues that have made me lose more interest the last two years:
- The money requirement is exponentially higher and asking fans/alumni to pony up for basically player salaries. The only sustainable way out are corporate sponsorships or increase ticket prices to cover the payroll. If you can’t get the sponsorships and/or ticket sales suffer there’s your answer.
- Transfer rules - and the annual free agency - makes it much harder to root for revolving door players.
- The quality of play - Let’s face it…it’s bad. Teams don’t run systems anymore. Only nine games in but this team is just hard to watch even when they win. And not just an SHU thing…Charleston was a tough watch in general.
- The money requirement is exponentially higher and asking fans/alumni to pony up for basically player salaries. The only sustainable way out are corporate sponsorships or increase ticket prices to cover the payroll. If you can’t get the sponsorships and/or ticket sales suffer there’s your answer.
- Transfer rules - and the annual free agency - makes it much harder to root for revolving door players.
- The quality of play - Let’s face it…it’s bad. Teams don’t run systems anymore. Only nine games in but this team is just hard to watch even when they win. And not just an SHU thing…Charleston was a tough watch in general.
I think to your last point if you can at least sign players who are talented individually - put the ball on the floor and score and/or shoot from 3 - it at least bails you out as you try to create a team every year. But obv those are the high priced pieces, lol.
We don't have that on this roster. Jenkins could've been the shooter, but the other who can create and score at will is the most important.
This NIL issue is overblown. It is certainly an issue, but Seton Hall has always had to compete with less. The bigger issue is player evaluation misses.
