Traitor. What else could explain Trump?
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You may be right, but the President struggles every day to communicate this clearly. Calling it a hoax merely reinforces the perception that he cannot separate interference and collusion.
Briefed by the FBI, but Trump is implying he wasn't told there.
Of course Obama is not going to personally reach out, that wouldn't be the job of the President.
He actually has not accepted that Russia has interfered with the election. He has been more consistent with it could have been anyone who did it. Even when he finally said I accept the intel community that Russia interfered, he also said well, it could have been anyone. You are performing mental gymnastics to rationalize what is not rational.
Gary Bauer: “I was on Capitol Hill this week, and I had a fascinating conversation with Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas. As you may know, he aggressively confronted renegade FBI operative Peter Strzok, who was once chief of the FBI’s Counterespionage Section. There were several significant revelations from that hearing, which the media largely ignored. Rep. Gohmert filled me in on some of the details of his exchange with Strzok, and this is something that really can’t be ignored. Strzok told the committee that he was concerned about foreign influence in the 2016 election. Rep. Gohmert asked how serious his concern really was because key officials in the intelligence community had briefed Strzok about an ‘anomaly’ they found on Hillary Clinton’s email server, and he did nothing. They discovered during a forensic analysis that essentially everything Hillary sent on her server had been redirected to a hostile foreign power that was not Russia. Strzok told Gohmert that he could not recall this briefing. Really? He could not recall being told that 30,000 emails from the secretary of state had been contemporaneously redirected to an enemy? It seems that the Obama administration was compromised by a foreign enemy because of the stupidity of the secretary of state and the malfeasance of the FBI’s counterespionage division, which was distracted by its efforts to take down the Republican presidential nominee. In what world is this not a HUGE story? If we had a truly nonpartisan, unbiased free press, this would be banner headlines. But the entire media complex is instead talking about the Trump/Putin press conference.”
One, how do we know that this actually occurred? Are you trusting of this guy Gary Bauer? Where is the footage of this exchange?
Second, I have agreed that Obama did not handle the interference with Russia as well. Why didn't he come out sooner is a question that perplexes me.
However, let's assume what Bauer wrote is true. The reason Trump and Russia is a bigger story is because at best Trump is actively encouraging Russia to interfere with the elections to find Hillary's emails and Wikileaks which is really the Russians hacking into the DNC servers. At worst, Trump and Russian operatives agreed that Russia would help Trump and engage is cyber warfare against his political opponent.
With the Obama and Hillary at worst it is a matter of incompetence but not actively engaging in an enemy.
LOL, you have got to get out of your Trump Derangement Syndrome bunker and realize the lamestream media are WAY in the tank.
This should be big news:
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/clintons-emails-fbi-foreign-entity-gohmert/
Are you a computer expert? I would imagine that the servers would not be turned over. That would be very disruptive. There are various ways to examine the servers. One, a mirrored image of the server can be made which then they can examine the server. Perhaps, there is another way like going through whoever maintains the server. I am no expert but I do know that you can examine it without actually having it. Like when you IT guys can remotely take over your computer.
The only mental gymnastics being performed are by you trying to spin his acceptance of interference to fit your agenda of everything anti-Trump.
So far all I have seen on this is based off the claim from Gohmert but nothing to support that claim.
I watched the hearing and Gohmert seemed off the rails quite a bit.
Head in the sand?
Gohmert wasn't off the rails, he rightly went to the character of the witness.
I'm not defending Trump, lord knows he's all over the place on this but again, there is no fairness or un-bias in the reporting of this.
Sure, if you don't understand how IT works, that might sound scary or nefarious.
If you do have an understanding of IT though, it isn't that strange at all.
They received cloned images of the servers. That is the data you want since it would not have been manipulated in any way.
The IG report said nothing about what Gohmert said. We had an investigation and a report was issued that did not mention what Gohmert said, and stated that they found no evidence that Stzork acted with bias.
You have to buy into the deep state conspiracy theory to buy into what he was talking about.
If it isn't fresh as per below, it certainly could be manipulated, things change upon each successive reboot.
FBI: DNC rebuffed request to examine computer servers
By Evan Perez and Daniella Diaz, CNN
Updated 9:04 PM ET, Thu January 5, 2017
Washington (CNN)The Democratic National Committee "rebuffed" a request from the FBI to examine its computer services after it was allegedly hacked by Russia during the 2016 election, a senior law enforcement official told CNN Thursday.
"The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated," a senior law enforcement official told CNN. "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."
This statement is in response to reports that the FBI never asked the DNC for access to the hacked systems.
The DNC told Buzzfeed News that they did not receive a request from the FBI to access their computer servers.
"The DNC had several meetings with representatives of the FBI's Cyber Division and its Washington Field Office, the Department of Justice's National Security Division, and US Attorney's Offices, and it responded to a variety of requests for cooperation, but the FBI never requested access to the DNC's computer servers," Eric Walker, the DNC's deputy communications director, told BuzzFeed News.
The FBI instead relied on the assessment from a third-party security company called CrowdStrIke.
Wouldn't there have been outrage from the leftist talking heads about this exchange then if Gohmert was flat out lying?
Cloned images to not change with each successive reboot. The thing is they found a way to make it work that the FBI agreed to.
Again, you have to go along with the assumption that there is a deep state conspiracy theory to believe the evidence the FBI reviewed was inadequate.
If it was inadequate the FBI would could have seized the servers.
Do you think we had the computers that the Russians were using where we referenced their activity in the indictments a couple weeks ago?
You do not need to hold a physical computer to get the data you need.
Maybe there would have been had he not called Strzok a liar and started talking about his wife. Who knows.
He is suggesting Strzok did act with bias and Horowitz knew but ignored it. That is a tough sell. I have a hard time buying that one.
Think about it logically - All Strzok had to do was leak a few details about the investigation into the Trump campaign.
If he was willing to ignore evidence, wouldn't you think he would also be willing to leak something? Why didn't he?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...he-internet-to-the-crowd-at-trumps-maga-tour/
Told ya. The fringe is becoming mainstream.
Laugh it off if you like.
Their subreddit picked up 10k followers since I mentioned it 2 weeks ago.
It has reached "peak popularity" as a search term on google.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=qanon
I see whats happening and it is fueled by the president casting doubts on our press and our intelligence community.
You can keep calling it fringe until the GOP endorses it as a campaign strategy... oh wait...
http://www.tampabay.com/florida-pol...oted-then-deleted-by-hillsborough-county-gop/
I think you meant less than, not greater then... but in any case, more than 0.001% of the US population is online in their sub-reddit right now.
Thanks for the correction...don't use < or > much while managing a P&L. I meant "less than", like miniscule....
This Q anon is more than you think. It is all about conspiracy theories and the deep state. A significant amount of Trump supporters are into the conspiracy theories and deep state. Do not blow this off as some small percentage that is meaningless.
Merge, seriously, I think you’ve lost your mind. Stop watching CNN. Your brain is turning to mush.
Actually had a friend show me a post from an old friend on Facebook yesterday. He was posting about Q, and how he can’t talk to old friends and family anymore because they refuse to see the truth. He talked about every mass shooting as being a false flag, Hillary being satanic. And we will all see how smart he looks when the truth comes out.
It was really just sad honestly,
It was really just sad honestly,
I should introduce you to my sister-in-law and husband. She has marched in a half dozen pussy-hat events including the one in DC after the inauguration. They are the definition of “unhinged”!
