Trump Ethics

[SHUSA]

so word on the street is trump is holding up the transition because he won't follow through with the ethics agreement.

how much of this is MSM backlash? not seeing a ton on more neutral platforms, but at the same time hes giving positions to his friends and has elon seemingly running things from behind the scenes whose company can be invested in by anyone in the world.

 

[HALL85]

“Word on the street”….lol

At the end of the day, he will be judged by what he and the team he surrounds himself with accomplishes.

 

[SHUSA]

“Word on the street”….lol

At the end of the day, he will be judged by what he and the team he surrounds himself with accomplishes.

do you think elon musk is up trumps ass to make america better for americans or do you think it's for his own interests ?

hes clearly in it for his own interests.

 

[HALL85]

do you think elon musk is up trumps ass to make america better for americans or do you think it's for his own interests ?

hes clearly in it for his own interests.

I think your take is amusing. Let’s think about Mysk:
- He’s probably had the greatest positive impact on the environment given the number of his EV’s are in use.
- He employs over 200,000 people almost exclusively in the U.S.
- SpaceX is doing what NASA did, faster, better and cheaper…saving taxpayers money while advancing US security.
- Made Starlink available to Ukraine and also in disaster situations like the NC floods.
- Neuralink has the potential to help people with all forms of disabilities.
- He defends free speech.
- And he lives in one house on the SoaceX campus.

His “own interests” seem to be good for the country. If he is advising Trump I see this as a net positive. Isn’t it a good thing he decided to emigrate from South Africa and do what he did here?

 

[Section112]

Seriously what politician doesn't take care of his/her own interests? Is that even a question? Have you been living in the woods? It applies to all parties. We just have to hope they do enough to make the country better.

 

[SHUSA]

Seriously what politician doesn't take care of his/her own interests? Is that even a question? Have you been living in the woods? It applies to all parties. We just have to hope they do enough to make the country better.

musk is not a politician. public power from private interests.

 

[shu09]

do you think elon musk is up trumps ass to make america better for americans or do you think it's for his own interests ?

hes clearly in it for his own interests.

Every politician, GOP and Democrat, are in it for their own personal interests.

 

[SHUSA]

Every politician, GOP and Democrat, are in it for their own personal interests.

none actually run on stage and openly involving his presidency with a major business person/celebrity with the most active stock.

hes and advisor on a project literally called DOGE. we really backing acronyms for his meme coin.

 

[HALL85]

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/13/trump-musk-doge-efficiency-commission

Imagine posting details about the Department of Education’s charter, headcount, budget, expenditures, etc. on Twitter. Transparency for the public. I can understand how this might make people nervous because Trump can now take this to an audience that depends on X for its news. Let me know if Twitter Guy posts any of those links.

 

[SHallguy2]

do you think elon musk is up trumps ass to make america better for americans or do you think it's for his own interests ?

hes clearly in it for his own interests.

Why? Musk isn’t worried about making more money, guys like him don’t get to where they are worrying about their own self interests. He gets off solving problems. He may make more money in the process but that’s not what drives him.

 

[SHUSA]

Why? Musk isn’t worried about making more money, guys like him don’t get to where they are worrying about their own self interests. He gets off solving problems. He may make more money in the process but that’s not what drives him.

oh he told you this?

 

[SHUSA]

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/13/trump-musk-doge-efficiency-commission

Imagine posting details about the Department of Education’s charter, headcount, budget, expenditures, etc. on Twitter. Transparency for the public. I can understand how this might make people nervous because Trump can now take this to an audience that depends on X for its news. Let me know if Twitter Guy posts any of those links.

pelosi, who i hate, had a really good joke about this. efficiency committee off to a good start by having two employees lead it. like the unions they hate. one to hold the mic the other to speak into it.

 

[SHallguy2]

I think your take is amusing. Let’s think about Mysk:
- He’s probably had the greatest positive impact on the environment given the number of his EV’s are in use.
- He employs over 200,000 people almost exclusively in the U.S.
- SpaceX is doing what NASA did, faster, better and cheaper…saving taxpayers money while advancing US security.
- Made Starlink available to Ukraine and also in disaster situations like the NC floods.
- Neuralink has the potential to help people with all forms of disabilities.
- He defends free speech.
- And he lives in one house on the SoaceX campus.

His “own interests” seem to be good for the country. If he is advising Trump I see this as a net positive. Isn’t it a good thing he decided to emigrate from South Africa and do what he did here?

Guy is a rock star, brilliant people are not motivated by money. Money is a by product of their ability to help change the world. Imagine if he was still a Democrat, unfortunately he’s too smart to align himself with Dems. Media doesn’t know what box to put him into so the narrative is to disparage him and make him an enemy. Going to blow up in their faces again.

 

[SHallguy2]

oh he told you this?

Common sense tells me this. He lives a simple life. Every business journal on successful business people will tell you the same message I delivered to you.

 

[HALL85]

Common sense tells me this. He lives a simple life. Every business journal on successful business people will tell you the same message I delivered to you.

Exactly. His biography is fascinating. All that money he makes he plows right back into the businesses to expand and advance them. And those businesses have been good for this country in several levels.

Musk is a disrupter which makes a lot of people uncomfortable. Important to know that he is an advisor, and this is not a full-time position. But based on how he operates, I anticipate he will send teams of people into each of these departments and come out with recommendations for streamlining.

 

[Section112]

pelosi, who i hate, had a really good joke about this. efficiency committee off to a good start by having two employees lead it. like the unions they hate. one to hold the mic the other to speak into it.

Tomato-tomatto . Pelosi enriched herself and her family and made many millions of dollars "serving the peoples interests." Hopefully Musk can bring a fresh perspective. Can't be any worse than how the government is inefficiently run now. Why don't you sit back and see if they make improvements. You can bitch all you want if you don't like the result. Right now you've chosen to bitch about nothing (because they didn't do anything yet) or that you can control. You are bitching for bitching sake and as always not adding anything to the conversation.

 

[Merge]

Guy is a rock star, brilliant people are not motivated by money. Money is a by product of their ability to help change the world. Imagine if he was still a Democrat, unfortunately he’s too smart to align himself with Dems. Media doesn’t know what box to put him into so the narrative is to disparage him and make him an enemy. Going to blow up in their faces again.

Dems were dumb not to embrace him years ago, which I assume is because Tesla is non-union. His flip to republican was likely at least partly out of spite. One of his biggest political issues has been global warming and energy policy so I am hopeful he has some influence in that area over the next 4 years.

 

[Rockaway]

Does anyone on this board think the government doesn’t need streamlining.

 

[Merge]

Does anyone on this board think the government doesn’t need streamlining.

Not at all. I'll wait and see what the recommendations are.

There is plenty of room to cut and streamline. Musk has already said though that their plans "necessarily involves some temporary hardship". Obviously no way to know what the plans are yet, but I do worry about an over correction and the overall impact to the economy. I hope we make cuts where we can while minimizing the broader economic hardship.

 

[HALL85]

Not at all. I'll wait and see what the recommendations are.

There is plenty of room to cut and streamline. Musk has already said though that their plans "necessarily involves some temporary hardship". Obviously no way to know what the plans are yet, but I do worry about an over correction and the overall impact to the economy. I hope we make cuts where we can while minimizing the broader economic hardship.

I am curious to see how this is going to roll out and where it fits in with timing given the other priorities. Have to think the three top initiatives for Trump are going to be:
- Tax cuts/threats of tariffs to demonstrate he is addressing the concerns about cost of living.
- Illegal Immigration/Border Security. Just judging by his picks, and that they are some of the first ones, this will be a combination of executive actions and prioritizing legislation with a Republican House.
- Inserting himself in Ukraine/Russia war and Middle East conflicts.

I can see Musk as an advisor sending teams into each government agency over the next 1-2 years and publishing recommendations (that he can also provide directly to the public on X.
- What is the agencies charter and is it still relevant - what changes?
- Office space - Have to think there is a lot of excess office space in the government inventory.
- Headcount - To your point, this needs to be done in a way that does not have a material impact on the economy. I'm sure there will be legal hurdles given that these are mostly organized labor.
- This could be a "drip/drip" strategy that gets implemented slowly over the four years of his term.

 

[Merge]

I can see Musk as an advisor sending teams into each government agency over the next 1-2 years and publishing recommendations (that he can also provide directly to the public on X.
- What is the agencies charter and is it still relevant - what changes?
- Office space - Have to think there is a lot of excess office space in the government inventory.
- Headcount - To your point, this needs to be done in a way that does not have a material impact on the economy. I'm sure there will be legal hurdles given that these are mostly organized labor.
- This could be a "drip/drip" strategy that gets implemented slowly over the four years of his term.

I think you stated it well. I hope that is how it plays out.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Elon 1st row at house gop leadership meet up with Trump at DC hotel

 

[SHUSA]

Common sense tells me this. He lives a simple life. Every business journal on successful business people will tell you the same message I delivered to you.

he looks like he lives a simple life.

 

[Rockaway]

Reportedly only 7% of social security employees come into office .change that or sell building

 

[SHUSA]

Tomato-tomatto . Pelosi enriched herself and her family and made many millions of dollars "serving the peoples interests." Hopefully Musk can bring a fresh perspective. Can't be any worse than how the government is inefficiently run now. Why don't you sit back and see if they make improvements. You can bitch all you want if you don't like the result. Right now you've chosen to bitch about nothing (because they didn't do anything yet) or that you can control. You are bitching for bitching sake and as always not adding anything to the conversation.

i said this in a few threads. i HOPE everything that happens in the next 4 years is golden. a lot of people don't. do it think it will? not likely but i hope i'm wrong

 

[SHUSA]

Reportedly only 7% of social security employees come into office .change that or sell building

genuinely curious, sell it to who?

 

[HALL85]

genuinely curious, sell it to who?

To any buyer that’s interested and will pay market price. That’s how real estate works…

 

[SHUSA]

To any buyer that’s interested and will pay market price. That’s how real estate works…

and this particular part of real estate is big time F'd

 

[HALL85]

and this particular part of real estate is big time F'd

Please explain

 

[SHUSA]

Please explain

its a bad investment. many corporate buildings empty with no interest in anyone buying. commercial real estate doing well. office space? not so much. not exactly a hot take. the govt could sell well under value i guess.

 

[HALL85]

its a bad investment. many corporate buildings empty with no interest in anyone buying. commercial real estate doing well. office space? not so much. not exactly a hot take. the govt could sell well under value i guess.

Developers are buying and converting office space to residential.

I would aLos assume a good amount of government buildings are in desirable downtown markets.

 

[SHallguy2]

I am curious to see how this is going to roll out and where it fits in with timing given the other priorities. Have to think the three top initiatives for Trump are going to be:
- Tax cuts/threats of tariffs to demonstrate he is addressing the concerns about cost of living.
- Illegal Immigration/Border Security. Just judging by his picks, and that they are some of the first ones, this will be a combination of executive actions and prioritizing legislation with a Republican House.
- Inserting himself in Ukraine/Russia war and Middle East conflicts.

I can see Musk as an advisor sending teams into each government agency over the next 1-2 years and publishing recommendations (that he can also provide directly to the public on X.
- What is the agencies charter and is it still relevant - what changes?
- Office space - Have to think there is a lot of excess office space in the government inventory.
- Headcount - To your point, this needs to be done in a way that does not have a material impact on the economy. I'm sure there will be legal hurdles given that these are mostly organized labor.
- This could be a "drip/drip" strategy that gets implemented slowly over the four years of his term.

I heard somewhere Elon is looking at July4 2026 to implement wide scale changes. A unique way to celebrate our American independence. Gotta love this guy. Gives him and those being cut 2025 and half of 2026 to make adjustments.