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You see that's the problem. Your question was about Clinton, not Trump. You don't want to acknowledge why people don't trust her and find her dishonest. I'm not going to repeat a long list of lies, but when it is simple as saying you had one cell phone when you have 13 and then you smash them all after deleting the 30k emails and wiping the servers claim… You're OK with that?

And your response to all of the problems with Clinton, is to counter with the Trump talking points.

I get it, you support her and are going to vote for her. That's your prerogative, but don't try to gin up some argument that makes her out to be something that she's not. It's weak and unconvincing.
 
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Perhaps you don't see the point Hall 85. Number one thing you hear from people who are Trump supporters is that Hillary is a liar. But, then how come the same supporters don't see the avalanche of lies that flow from Trump's mouth? This is the essence of hypocrisy. And that is my point.

For whatever reason, Hillary has an inability to be transparent. I understand how people can get disgusted with her. Hell, I don't understand why she handled the email thing the way she did. You are running for President. Just be transparent and not make an issue out of nothing in which she did.
 
The question, as is said above, is how do you call Clinton a liar and not say trump is a liar too. He lies, misrepresents, makes up facts and events, and when called out, he says we are too politically correct.

We are paying for his 757. He is scamming the money spent on the campaign by overcharging for services paid to his companies. He upped the rent for his headquarters by a fantastic amount when he started fundraising. It is in trump tower of course. If a dem did any of this, rush and Sean and the rest of those clowns would be apaplectic. This charlatan does it and it is ignored. And to boot, the right cries about the media being so tough. And his phony foundation he uses like a piggybank. Taking public credit for other people's generousity.

Vote for anyone else.
 
Perhaps you don't see the point Hall 85. Number one thing you hear from people who are Trump supporters is that Hillary is a liar. But, then how come the same supporters don't see the avalanche of lies that flow from Trump's mouth? This is the essence of hypocrisy. And that is my point.
But it's not just Trump supporters who see her as a liar. Most people do and that's her biggest problem.
 
I honestly can't see how anyone can support either one of these corrupt, lying, morally-bankrupt major party candidates, it just boggles the mind.

Reality Check- One of them is going to be President. Therefore, you make a choice between the two. And when you boil it down to that reality, the choice is a clear one. A choice that even George H.W. Bush will make and that is for Hillary.

Saying you can't vote for either is a cop out. You may hate your decision but people need to make one.

Btw, every time I see Gary Johnson, he is not an option either. Seems like a nice guy but a buffoon.
 
Reality Check- One of them is going to be President. Therefore, you make a choice between the two. And when you boil it down to that reality, the choice is a clear one. A choice that even George H.W. Bush will make and that is for Hillary.

Btw, every time I see Gary Johnson, he is not an option either. Seems like a nice guy but a buffoon.
How does the Clunton Kool-Aid taste? I see a lot of that arrogance from both sides..."the choice is a clear one"....bahahaha
 
Reality Check- One of them is going to be President. Therefore, you make a choice between the two. And when you boil it down to that reality, the choice is a clear one. A choice that even George H.W. Bush will make and that is for Hillary.

Saying you can't vote for either is a cop out. You may hate your decision but people need to make one.

Btw, every time I see Gary Johnson, he is not an option either. Seems like a nice guy but a buffoon.

We get it, you're a Clinton shill, that's your prerogative, but I don't have to buy the snake-oil you and your excuse of a candidate peddle.

Johnson has accomplished far more good in the public arena then both of the major party rejects combined.
 
I wouldn't vote for Gary Johnson in a million years based on policy, but neither of the things referenced above disqualify him from anything. Particularly with the tongue sticking out thing, it seemed clear to me that the only reason he did that was to generate some publicity for himself because the garbage media refuses to cover either him or Stein unless they do something "outrageous". I use quotes bc it was harmless and silly what he did.

These guys are desperate for ANY coverage bc the standard tv stations, papers and sites ignore them bc of their hard-on for the two party horse race bullshit that does not represent a large portion of this country....but hey they gotta try & keep that 1 share on the ratings right? Screw actual journalism!
 
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Johnson has accomplished far more good in the public arena then both of the major party rejects combined.

Maybe that's true but Johnson is completely unfit to be president. I'd never vote for him either.
 
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He's not unfit at all, especially this year with who he's up against. But when u say that the gov't shouldn't be involved in the climate fight (I know I know...the free market will solve all the worlds ills ::eye roll::) bc the sun will eventually explode in a billion years...well that's ridiculous and I can't get behind you. Libertarian philosophy is crazy to me in the way a lot of them want it applied.
 
I'm telling you all, you will greatly miss Obama in about six months. Guy has done a very good job overall.
Except, he and Congress are the reason why we find ourselves in this dreadful election. Thanks Barry; the epitome of an empty suit.
 
He's not unfit at all, especially this year with who he's up against. But when u say that the gov't shouldn't be involved in the climate fight (I know I know...the free market will solve all the worlds ills ::eye roll::) bc the sun will eventually explode in a billion years...well that's ridiculous and I can't get behind you. Libertarian philosophy is crazy to me in the way a lot of them want it applied.

Gary Johnson is so out of his league. The only reason he is polling at 10% is because the two major party candidates are unlikable. I don't know of one thing Gary Johnson has ever accomplished in New Mexico. The National Review had a pretty scathing article on him saying he was not a fiscal conservative at all especially when you compare spending under Bill Richardson and the present governor Martinez.

He does not seem to have any grasp of important international issues. Quite frankly, he is a kooky.

As far as who is to blame for giving us Trump and Hillary, it is not Obama. It's us, the people.
 
I wouldn't vote for Gary Johnson in a million years based on policy, but neither of the things referenced above disqualify him from anything. Particularly with the tongue sticking out thing, it seemed clear to me that the only reason he did that was to generate some publicity for himself because the garbage media refuses to cover either him or Stein unless they do something "outrageous". I use quotes bc it was harmless and silly what he did.

These guys are desperate for ANY coverage bc the standard tv stations, papers and sites ignore them bc of their hard-on for the two party horse race bullshit that does not represent a large portion of this country....but hey they gotta try & keep that 1 share on the ratings right? Screw actual journalism!
They are ignored cause no one cares and they are not strong candidates. Trump shows that one can overcome political newbess. Perot did too. These two don't have it. No one covered Harold Stasson either.
 
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They are ignored cause no one cares and they are not strong candidates. Trump shows that one can overcome political newbess. Perot did too. These two don't have it. No one covered Harold Stasson either.

Gary Johnson at it again! Asked about who is his favorite foreign leader. He admitted that he is having an "Aleppo Moment" and could not answer the question for a minute before his running mate Bill Weld saved the agony by answering Merkle.

His running mate Bill Weld would have been a serious candidate. But Johnson is an odd duck that has absolutely no knowledge in foreign affairs. He has far less knowledge than even Trump.
 
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Gary Johnson at it again! Asked about who is his favorite foreign leader. He admitted that he is having an "Aleppo Moment" and could not answer the question for a minute before answering Merkle.

His running mate Bill Weld would have been a serious candidate. But Johnson is an odd duck that has absolutely no knowledge in foreign affairs. He has far less knowledge than even Trump.

This election really is the epitome of #Murica ... Ugh.
 
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