We’re still not partnering with Frank The Tank?

[Fishjam]

When the Practice facility is complete we should have an "All Hands on Deck" meeting to introduce the new facility and an Open and Honest Discussion on NIL. Sha, Felt, McBride, Reilly and BoR should all be there and need to be honest and open.

Make the event open to all at no charge and it should honestly explain how far behind we are and exactly how much Sha needs to compete. Sha needs to speak from the heart and explain to the admins and the alumni what he feels he needs to compete at the top of the Big East. Dont pussyfoot around with mixed messages. If we are at $1Million and need $4Million say it. Launch a donation drive with a stated goal and deadline. Explain Revenue Sharing vs NIL and where they want to steer donations for largest impact.

If we cant give Sha all of the tools to do his job right for even 1 season, I feel it will be something we who are Seton Hall regret for a long, long time.

 

[HallGuy23]

Try to start something with it then. Pledge $1 to onward setonia for every mile Frank walks in the next year and try to get others to join you. Get some traction and maybe Frank and OS will jump on to help publicize it and recruit people to join you.

That doesn’t solve anything. That’s still just blindly donating.

We need the groundwork layed, a plan, a reason to do it.

This is Mike McBrides job. He should and needs to be doing this. Not me.

 

[STLPirate12]

That doesn’t solve anything. That’s still just blindly donating.

We need the groundwork layed, a plan, a reason to do it.

This is Mike McBrides job. He should and needs to be doing this. Not me.

The reason is we need money to compete and we don't have whale to write a huge check for us. Frank isn't going to and doesn't have the money to move the needle even if he wanted to. Barstool isn't going to either, what would be in it for them? That means the most realistic approach for us to generate funds is crowdfunding. Something like this would hit a lot better being lead organically by someone trying to help than by the organization asking for the money. So keep up the absolutely useless whining or actually try doing something to help.

 

[HallGuy23]

The reason is we need money to compete and we don't have whale to write a huge check for us. Frank isn't going to and doesn't have the money to move the needle even if he wanted to. Barstool isn't going to either, what would be in it for them? That means the most realistic approach for us to generate funds is crowdfunding. Something like this would hit a lot better being lead organically by someone trying to help than by the organization asking for the money. So keep up the absolutely useless whining or actually try doing something to help.

Again, this is Mike McBrides job. He needs to convince them that partnering with Seton Hall and putting out content is worth it. If he can’t do that then what are we paying him for?

Just giving up and telling the same fans to do it on their own is why we’re in the situation we are.

We have a popular fan at a premier sports company and all anybody wants to do is make excuses and belittle the thought.

Enjoy our 1-17 Big East season

 

[STLPirate12]

Again, this is Mike McBrides job. He needs to convince them that partnering with Seton Hall and putting out content is worth it. If he can’t do that then what are we paying him for?

Just giving up and telling the same fans to do it on their own is why we’re in the situation we are.

We have a popular fan at a premier sports company and all anybody wants to do is make excuses and belittle the thought.

Enjoy our 1-17 Big East season

Yes, he's said that corporate partnerships is the key to his NIL strategy, but part of that includes understanding where his leverage is and where he has none. Barstool Sports, for instance, has more than 700x as many Instagram followers as Seton Hall basketball. They won't pay us a dime to create content with us. More realistically, they'd request we pay them more than we're paying our whole team right now.

So yes, corporate partnerships is his goal and hopefully he's got a few realistic irons in the fire because we can't afford a barstool partnership. The best we can hope to do there is give Frank free tickets and try to piggyback off what he gives us organically.

 

[HallGuy23]

Yes, he's said that corporate partnerships is the key to his NIL strategy, but part of that includes understanding where his leverage is and where he has none. Barstool Sports, for instance, has more than 700x as many Instagram followers as Seton Hall basketball. They won't pay us a dime to create content with us. More realistically, they'd request we pay them more than we're paying our whole team right now.

So yes, corporate partnerships is his goal and hopefully he's got a few realistic irons in the fire because we can't afford a barstool partnership. The best we can hope to do there is give Frank free tickets and try to piggyback off what he gives us organically.

Nobody said partner with Barstool. I said partner with Frank on his walks. A logical, realistic opportunity. As usual, everything was taken far off base.

Regardless, what is Mike McBride doing? I didn’t realize he only worked during the off season. I thought this was a 12 month position. When’s the last time he made a statement?

 

[silkcitypirate]

When the Practice facility is complete we should have an "All Hands on Deck" meeting to introduce the new facility and an Open and Honest Discussion on NIL. Sha, Felt, McBride, Reilly and BoR should all be there and need to be honest and open.

Make the event open to all at no charge and it should honestly explain how far behind we are and exactly how much Sha needs to compete. Sha needs to speak from the heart and explain to the admins and the alumni what he feels he needs to compete at the top of the Big East. Dont pussyfoot around with mixed messages. If we are at $1Million and need $4Million say it. Launch a donation drive with a stated goal and deadline. Explain Revenue Sharing vs NIL and where they want to steer donations for largest impact.

If we cant give Sha all of the tools to do his job right for even 1 season, I feel it will be something we who are Seton Hall regret for a long, long time.

All the people who bought the legacy wall brick should be invited to an introduction to the new facility . In fact that should have been included with the purchase of the brick it would be more of an incentive to buy the brick . I think they dropped the ball on that one !!!! About the meeting you mention it is a good idea but I do not see that happening .

 

[STLPirate12]

Nobody said partner with Barstool. I said partner with Frank on his walks. A logical, realistic opportunity. As usual, everything was taken far off base.

Regardless, what is Mike McBride doing? I didn’t realize he only worked during the off season. I thought this was a 12 month position. When’s the last time he made a statement?

Frank also already has a significantly larger following than SHU hoops and all of it's players, so again, unless he just feels like doing us a favor at his own expense, we'd be the ones paying him for the content. Now you may think that spend is worthwhile and that's fine, but that would fall with marketing and it's not helping our NIL situation.

As for McBride, why do you expect him to tell you what he's doing? Just because you personally aren't aware of something doesn't mean it's not happening. Most people don't share regular updates on their work with the general public and would probably be fired if they did.

 

[SHUSA]

this guy has big rage for mcbride but i have no idea how to say he's wrong lol.

 

[HallGuy23]

Frank also already has a significantly larger following than SHU hoops and all of it's players, so again, unless he just feels like doing us a favor at his own expense, we'd be the ones paying him for the content. Now you may think that spend is worthwhile and that's fine, but that would fall with marketing and it's not helping our NIL situation.

As for McBride, why do you expect him to tell you what he's doing? Just because you personally aren't aware of something doesn't mean it's not happening. Most people don't share regular updates on their work with the general public and would probably be fired if they did.

So we don’t try? Got it. Think small, play small. Working out well so far

 

[STLPirate12]

So we don’t try? Got it. Think small, play small. Working out well so far

Didn't say that, in fact I said the opinion that it would be worthwhile spend is a perfectly valid one. The people making those decisions need to weigh that against their other options and how they fit in the marketing budget. And another note on what McBride's been doing, I'd guess he was our lead and put a lot of time into that 12-year Learfield contract extension that was announced a couple weeks ago.

 

[HallGuy23]

Didn't say that, in fact I said the opinion that it would be worthwhile spend is a perfectly valid one. The people making those decisions need to weigh that against their other options and how they fit in the marketing budget. And another note on what McBride's been doing, I'd guess he was our lead and put a lot of time into that 12-year Learfield contract extension that was announced a couple weeks ago.

I would hope not, that’s general athletics PR. Thts the AD’s and others jobs. Nothing to do with NIL.

 

[papacheesy2]

I feel like I'm going nuts here
The school *did* partner with Frank. That's why he's at the games at all. There was even a while article earlier this year about how it was all McBride's idea.

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[HallGuy23]

I feel like I'm going nuts here
The school *did* partner with Frank. That's why he's at the games at all. There was even a while article earlier this year about how it was all McBride's idea.

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Welp, I guess if a tree lands in the forest and nobody hears it, does it help NIL?

Seems like that was all last year. Hopefully something comes up soon for this season.

 

[STLPirate12]

I would hope not, that’s general athletics PR. Thts the AD’s and others jobs. Nothing to do with NIL.

What? You would hope the "Deputy AD for revenue generation, NIL & strategic initiatives" isn't the lead on the contract for the company that's going to be selling our 2 primary revenue generating assets (tickets and corporate partnerships) for the next 12 years?