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Sheeran was horrendous, ever wonder why the alum from his years pretty much don't donate at all?
I suspect because they don’t any better. Life lesson: don’t blame others for your lack of good times.

The jaded views and sourness here is breathtaking at times.
 
I suspect because they don’t any better. Life lesson: don’t blame others for your lack of good times.

The jaded views and sourness here is breathtaking at times.
no that's false. covering your eyes and being in the situation we're currently in which is horrendous giving rates.

its breathtaking to not wake up and realize it.
 
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its time to transcend into the secular world 🗣️🗣️🗣️

in all serious, im curious what the benefit actually is. can we skip out on taxes like the actual church?
If they could ditch the diocese and retain the identity of a Catholic University, I’d be all for it. But not going to happen.
 
no that's false. covering your eyes and being in the situation we're currently in which is horrendous giving rates.

its breathtaking to not wake up and realize it.
Check the mirror. Out on a limb here but I’m guessing you’re not a giver. Why do others give? Because we value our education. We understand what SHU is. And we want to make it better. And those that give don’t brook all the excuses.
 
what is the benefit to either?
Officially, the University reports to the bishop of the archdiocese of Newark. It would free the university from that oversight. In reality I’m not sure how much authority the bishop has over the University at this point.
 
Officially, the University reports to the bishop of the archdiocese of Newark. It would free the university from that oversight. In reality I’m not sure how much authority the bishop has over the University at this point.
Cardinal Tobin is on the board and I believe he also appoints a few clergy to the board as well. I think only one of two Diocesan Universities left so ultimately the Diocese can have a lot if day. Whether they do or not I’m not sure.
 
Check the mirror. Out on a limb here but I’m guessing you’re not a giver. Why do others give? Because we value our education. We understand what SHU is. And we want to make it better. And those that give don’t brook all the excuses.
great now go tell this to the thousands of students that attended seton hall int he 2000s. theyre all wrong right? that fixes everything. that valuable shu degree created such happy and successful students they must have forgotten to give back.

it is what it is. not sure how you can argue it.
 
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What's the drawback to either? If not for the Catholic Church, Seton Hall University wouldn't exist.
that was great back in 1856. and what is it doing to make sure it continues to exist? because if theres no benefit. whats the point?
 
The Catholic church problem. I guess that's a thread for life off the ship... so I'll leave it there. As someone who went to the school despite the Catholic affiliation, I would have appreciated a real national search. (And yes, I can still appreciate and support the school while hoping to see positive change.)
"There are not over a hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church — which is, of course, quite a different thing. "
 
"There are not over a hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church — which is, of course, quite a different thing. "

Sounds like a quote from someone inside the Catholic church. Again, not for this thread. I simply wish a real search was done.
 
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"There are not over a hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church — which is, of course, quite a different thing. "
Fulton Sheen quote
 
I’ve known Msgr Reilly since grade school, so consider me biased.

He recently married my nephew and one of our childhood friends, and presided over numerous other sacraments of my circle of friends. He is a wonderful man of the highest character and a devout and beloved priest…ask anyone who has had the pleasure of hearing his homilies.

He is considered a “rock star” at Our Lady of Blessed Sacrament in Livingston where he frequently presides over mass. He is completely down to earth and relatable to both younger and older generations which I think would help to bridge any gaps between the diocese and the university.

And of course he is SHU through and through. I would think SHU would be best served by a “favorite son” over an outsider, but that is TBD I guess. While I understand that my observations don’t amount to Presidential credentials, I hope they provide a little personal perspective beyond Msgr Reilly’s CV.
 
I’ve known Msgr Reilly since grade school, so consider me biased. He recently married my nephew and one of our childhood friends, and presided over numerous other sacraments of my circle of friends. He is a wonderful man of the highest character and a devout and beloved priest…ask anyone who has had the pleasure of hearing his homilies. He is considered a “rock star” at Our Lady of Blessed Sacrament in Livingston where he frequently presides over mass. He is completely down to earth and relatable to both younger and older generations which I think would help to bridge any gaps between the diocese and the university. And of course he is SHU through and through. I would think SHU would be best served by a “favorite son” over an outsider, but that is TBD I guess. While I understand that my observations don’t amount to Presidential credentials, I hope they provide a little personal perspective beyond Msgr Reilly’s CV.
Thank you for posting your experience. Wishing him the best and much success.
 
its time to transcend into the secular world 🗣️🗣️🗣️

in all serious, im curious what the benefit actually is. can we skip out on taxes like the actual church?
Your ignorance is on full display here. Educational institutions are tax-exempt, as are charitable ones. Seton Hall and any churches in South Orange make Payments in Lieu of Taxes (PILOT) to municipalities, it's usually a pretty significant number. So no "skipping out."

And if you're one of those "tax the churches" clowns, the volunteers that are religiously affiliated do the vast majority of charity work and take more money out-of-pocket to actually care for the poor than the non-affiliated.

Collectively, they save the government hundreds of millions every year. But, yeah, tax them out of existence -- I'm sure that you and your buddies will pick up the slack.

Not even going to get into your comment on the Catholic school moving away from Catholicism.
 
Your ignorance is on full display here. Educational institutions are tax-exempt, as are charitable ones. Seton Hall and any churches in South Orange make Payments in Lieu of Taxes (PILOT) to municipalities, it's usually a pretty significant number. So no "skipping out."

And if you're one of those "tax the churches" clowns, the volunteers that are religiously affiliated do the vast majority of charity work and take more money out-of-pocket to actually care for the poor than the non-affiliated.

Collectively, they save the government hundreds of millions every year. But, yeah, tax them out of existence -- I'm sure that you and your buddies will pick up the slack.

Not even going to get into your comment on the Catholic school moving away from Catholicism.
I think that's too many words for him to understand.

At least this was a distraction for him instead of trashing Dylan.
 
The Catholic church problem. I guess that's a thread for life off the ship... so I'll leave it there. As someone who went to the school despite the Catholic affiliation, I would have appreciated a real national search. (And yes, I can still appreciate and support the school while hoping to see positive change.)

You clearly have no understanding of the mission of Seton Hall University. I had several non-Catholic professors and friends while in school, but I don't recall any of them having a problem with it being a Catholic school. There is no "Catholic Church problem" as it relates to SHU, just your own bias.
 
I do not know Monsignor Reilly personally, but friends rave about his kindness and direct involvement with students. In addition to his many accomplishments, he has the support of Cardinal Tobin who is an outstanding leader and represents the spirit of the Beatitudes. I am confident that Monsignor Reilly will have the full support of the Cardinal in the quest to continue the growth in scholarship and the fulfillment of the Hall's vision.
 
We have a close relative of a Catholic religious order who spoke highly of Mnsgr Reilly when I called and asked him what his reaction was to his appointment. I am going to take a wait and see approach to this news as I believe it’s the best approach for now
 
I’ve known Msgr Reilly since grade school, so consider me biased. He recently married my nephew and one of our childhood friends, and presided over numerous other sacraments of my circle of friends. He is a wonderful man of the highest character and a devout and beloved priest…ask anyone who has had the pleasure of hearing his homilies. He is considered a “rock star” at Our Lady of Blessed Sacrament in Livingston where he frequently presides over mass. He is completely down to earth and relatable to both younger and older generations which I think would help to bridge any gaps between the diocese and the university. And of course he is SHU through and through. I would think SHU would be best served by a “favorite son” over an outsider, but that is TBD I guess. While I understand that my observations don’t amount to Presidential credentials, I hope they provide a little personal perspective beyond Msgr Reilly’s CV.

This is fantastic- challenge is does any of that make him equipped to run a tier 1 college institution in 2024? Guess time will tell, but having graduated Loyola I was really excited at our latest Pres pick outside the church.
 
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Last thing a lot of these posts are all about who he is as a person and what’s he’s accomplished in the church that’s all amazing.

But what about the education and fundraising part? You see where I am going? I wish him all the best and same for the Pirates but in paper I think it’s a a mistake. Excited to be wrong.
 
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