Yankees kneel before, but not during national anthem

[Halldan1]

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/...0200723-jkakxy442zfejniiwtyz4guwta-story.html

Yankees kneel before, but not during national anthem; Aaron Boone makes Black Lives Matter statement
By KRISTIE ACKERT
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |
JUL 23, 2020 AT 7:15 PM

Aaron Boone did his pregame press conference wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt on Thursday and several players were expected to wear them for batting practice, which was before most reporters could get into the building, the first sign of the Yankees’ intent to make a social justice statement before they played the first game of the 2020, coronavirus-shortened MLB season.

“I just feel like, I want to be part of it and we’ve had conversations as an organization, we’ve had conversations as a team,” The Yankees manager said. “We’ve had smaller group conversations, conversations with one another. And we’ve kind of decided as a team. Not that necessarily everyone will be wearing these for batting practice I know a lot of guys are. I felt like I wanted to wear it. And tonight, we’ll as a team have our own demonstration.”

Before the national anthem on Thursday night, every player and coach on the field for the Yankees and Nationals took a knee while all holding a single length of black rope. After a short moment of silence, they all stood up while “The Star-Spangled Banner” was performed.



During the baseball hiatus, the move for racial equality and justice has surged across the country and MLB players were part of that. Boone used his instagram to show how personal it was to his family, which includes two sons he and his wife adopted from Haiti.

Giancarlo Stanton, Aaron Hicks, Aaron Judge, James Paxton and Adam Ottavino went on social media to voice their support for Black Lives Matter.

MLB responded with the plan to allow players have the option of having a patch with “Black Lives Matter” or “United For Change” on a jersey sleeve on opening day.

Tuesday, Judge said that it was important for the Yankees to make their decision as a group on how to move forward.

“Some people express it online, some people express it with words, some people kneel or do what they need to do,” Judge explained. “But I think whatever message that we try to give out here is we want to try to express unity and that we’re all in this together. I think that’s the biggest message that we’re going to try to get across from here is just, we’re all in this together.Try to have those uncomfortable conversations that we need to have and bring up those uncomfortable talking points, but no matter what happens, we’re in this together.”

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Turned it off as soon as I saw the BLM behind the mound. Oh well, maybe hockey will stick to sports, if not I'll survive.

In other news the red Sox put a 250 foot mural in Fenway to Blm. That should go over like a turd in a punch bowl.

 

[Bobbie Solo]

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Turned it off as soon as I saw the BLM behind the mound. Oh well, maybe hockey will stick to sports, if not I'll survive.

In other news the red Sox put a 250 foot mural in Fenway to Blm. That should go over like a turd in a punch bowl.

Like i said in another thread this week i dont expect most of the population of this board to return to any pro sports

 

[MBF72]

Although not a popular position on this board, athletes either kneel during the Anthem or they don't. To posture by kneeling at another time is a posture and cop out.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Like i said in another thread this week i dont expect most of the population of this board to return to any pro sports

Try America. Sports are writing their own obituary.

 

[dehere23]

Although not a popular position on this board, athletes either kneel during the Anthem or they don't. To posture by kneeling at another time is a posture and cop out.

Or maybe it’s a happy medium.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Try America. Sports are writing their own obituary.

Nope this board....more diversity in america vs this board

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Nope this board....more diversity in america vs this board

Yeah that makes sense. A message board of fans based in the northeast is more conservative than the rest of the country... gives me a good laugh.

 

[Uncle Hectors Crab Farm]

Try America. Sports are writing their own obituary.

But they are kneeling in protest against cops but what about the domestic abuse, drug use, alcohol use and pro athletes that have killed people. It’s just sad and soft served!

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Yeah that makes sense. A message board of fans based in the northeast is more conservative than the rest of the country... gives me a good laugh.

What i am saying is that this message board is filled with middle aged to senior citizen white men stuck in their beliefs with no change coming...the usa has an 18-45 group that is filled with latins, blacks, asians, women etc...well let's have a litmus test...i want to see the espn release on monday for what their first weekend averaged, i was to see the fox release on monday and a week from monday i want to see the turner and espn release for what their first nba weekend averaged

 

[NYShoreGuy]

But they are kneeling in protest against cops but what about the domestic abuse, drug use, alcohol use and pro athletes that have killed people. It’s just sad and soft served!

Hector you should tune in to oj simpson's twitter video from earlier

 

[BayonneRay]

Turned it off as soon as I saw the BLM behind the mound. Oh well, maybe hockey will stick to sports, if not I'll survive.

In other news the red Sox put a 250 foot mural in Fenway to Blm. That should go over like a turd in a punch bowl.

Well it could be worse. They could put a mural up praising CLM(confederate lives matter). Now that would be an insult to any true American today.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Well it could be worse. They could put a mural up praising CLM(confederate lives matter). Now that would be an insult to any true American today.

If sports leagues want to lose fans keep doing what they're doing. Sports fans are typically not flaming liberals. We want to sit down, drink a beer and enjoy the game. We're not craving social justice messages

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Who won the game by the way? What a shitshow.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

If sports leagues want to lose fans keep doing what they're doing. Sports fans are typically not flaming liberals. We want to sit down, drink a beer and enjoy the game. We're not craving social justice messages

You are a bad person, you equate human rights advocacy to being a flaming liberal...athletes and entertainers are persons and people ahead of being performers

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

You are a bad person, you equate human rights advocacy to being a flaming liberal...athletes and entertainers are persons and people ahead of being performers

Facts are majority of sports fans are not liberals. This catering to liberal views will be bad for their leagues. If calling the facts makes me a bad person in your eyes so be it.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Facts are majority of sports fans are not liberals. This catering to liberal views will be bad for their leagues. If calling the facts makes me a bad person in your eyes so be it.

You and some others are big with anti left and liberal labeling. This is a human rights advocacy gesture. Has nothing to do being liberal, conservative, dem or republican.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

You and some others are big with anti left and liberal labeling. This is a human rights advocacy gesture. Has nothing to do being liberal, conservative, dem or republican.

You seem to miss the point of most posts on here. The fans don't want social messages in sports. If sports leagues want to be social justice warriors then they will lose plenty of fans. I know you're not in the business of unifying, just dividing.

 

[HALL85]

What i am saying is that this message board is filled with middle aged to senior citizen white men stuck in their beliefs with no change coming...the usa has an 18-45 group that is filled with latins, blacks, asians, women etc...well let's have a litmus test...i want to see the espn release on monday for what their first weekend averaged, i was to see the fox release on monday and a week from monday i want to see the turner and espn release for what their first nba weekend averaged

That’s a rather racist view, but we’ve leaned to expect that from you. One thing that history shows is that there has been constant change in this country. That’s what freedom and a republic provides.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

That’s a rather racist view, but we’ve leaned to expect that from you. One thing that history shows is that there has been constant change in this country. That’s what freedom and a republic provides.

I would say my opinion aligns more with data and inference than the concept that I despise older caucasian males.

 

[Uncle Hectors Crab Farm]

Hector you should tune in to oj simpson's twitter video from earlier

What he all about??

 

[NYShoreGuy]

You seem to miss the point of most posts on here. The fans don't want social messages in sports. If sports leagues want to be social justice warriors then they will lose plenty of fans. I know you're not in the business of unifying, just dividing.

You speak for all fans now? Sports leagues showed plenty of patriotism after 9/11. Sports leagues show committment to armed services on july 4, memorial day and veterans day.

You despise advocacy that you infer as a politcal stance for values you are against.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

What he all about??

LMAO he's citing a murderers opinion. This guy is a clown.

 

[Uncle Hectors Crab Farm]

What i am saying is that this message board is filled with middle aged to senior citizen white men stuck in their beliefs with no change coming...the usa has an 18-45 group that is filled with latins, blacks, asians, women etc...well let's have a litmus test...i want to see the espn release on monday for what their first weekend averaged, i was to see the fox release on monday and a week from monday i want to see the turner and espn release for what their first nba weekend averaged

Cuz I grew up in up in a rough area. 30 mins up the highest was Trenton, 30 mins south on highway was Camden, across the highway Willingboro. If u never to be the jungle in the Boro, can’t help you. Rough times but I saw stuff I would never wish on cats

 

[Uncle Hectors Crab Farm]

LMAO he's citing a murderers opinion. This guy is a clown.

He a murderer or his son is

 

[Abbo71]

You and some others are big with anti left and liberal labeling. This is a human rights advocacy gesture. Has nothing to do being liberal, conservative, dem or republican.

I'm all for human rights advocacy, but I just want to watch a baseball game. That's it! I think calling someone a bad person, and a racist on this board is bad, and so unfair.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

I'm all for human rights advocacy, but I just want to watch a baseball game. That's it! I think calling someone a bad person, and a racist on this board is bad, and so unfair.

You should have replied to Hall85 for the part on calling someone a racist and not me because he is the one calling me a racist.
Kniepolice is being a bad person by labeling a gesture of human rights advocacy as a liberal tactic. He is naive to the fact that the players are part of a union that has membership of Asian nationals, latin americans, black americans. He also comes off as if every player ever only votes Dem and never Republican which surely is not the case.
However, I called this out already early in the week most of this board won't be coming back to North American pro sports.
Let me ask you this, did you aim to seek American patriotism at sporting events after 9/11?
Do you care that many teams in a normal climate celebrate US service members and veterans routinely in pregame ceremonies? Those are all forms of social messaging.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

You should have replied to Hall85 for the part on calling someone a racist and not me because he is the one calling me a racist.
Kniepolice is being a bad person by labeling a gesture of human rights advocacy as a liberal tactic. He is naive to the fact that the players are part of a union that has membership of Asian nationals, latin americans, black americans. He also comes off as if every player ever only votes Dem and never Republican which surely is not the case.
However, I called this out already early in the week most of this board won't be coming back to North American pro sports.
Let me ask you this, did you aim to seek American patriotism at sporting events after 9/11?
Do you care that many teams in a normal climate celebrate US service members and veterans routinely in pregame ceremonies? Those are all forms of social messaging.

Yes BLM is a liberal and Marxist creation, you need to learn your facts wokeboy. Also since you constantly SPAM this board with drivel that is aimed to paint the average American as racist, I implore you to start calling on the NBA to cancel all relationships with China which enslaves people ( something the racist USA ended 157 years ago)

 

[dehere23]

I think the point is that many people who even support the general premise of the underlying cause do not see why that needs to make its way into a sporting event, when there are plenty of other ways that athletes with platforms and fame can accomplish the same goal or be supportive. Time will tell how fans react.

I watched the game tonight despite the BLM stencil behind the pitchers mound on TV. Which I didn’t and still don’t understand why MLB felt compelled to include it there. I saw the pre-game kneeling and was pleased it didn’t happen during the anthem based on my own personal view. I thought it was a happy medium.

By contrast, my Dad a lawyer who idolized certain civil rights leaders growing up and has spent thousands of hours representing minorities on pro bono legal matters, immediately texted me he was turning the game off. He later forwarded an email he sent to the Yankee ticket office saying he was cancelling his season tickets, which he’s had for a long time and spent plenty of coin on. He has no interest on the intersection of these issues, some of which he spends his days supporting via free legal work as an attorney now retired from private practice, when he turns on a sporting event to escape the reality of the real world.

 

[lr591902]

The beauty of America is that we are all allowed to make whatever political statements we want and then the populace can decide what we think about it. If too many people don’t like what they are doing the business will suffer. We will know the answer soon enough.

 

[HALL85]

You should have replied to Hall85 for the part on calling someone a racist and not me because he is the one calling me a racist.
Kniepolice is being a bad person by labeling a gesture of human rights advocacy as a liberal tactic. He is naive to the fact that the players are part of a union that has membership of Asian nationals, latin americans, black americans. He also comes off as if every player ever only votes Dem and never Republican which surely is not the case.
However, I called this out already early in the week most of this board won't be coming back to North American pro sports.
Let me ask you this, did you aim to seek American patriotism at sporting events after 9/11?
Do you care that many teams in a normal climate celebrate US service members and veterans routinely in pregame ceremonies? Those are all forms of social messaging.

Awww....I must’ve hurt your feelings again. Just pointing out that the biggest complainers about racism are the ones that stereotype others the most. Pot meet kettle.

 

[Section112]

I am ok with what they did. It’s a respectful compromise and they feel like they are responding and supporting a cause. Our culture is messed up. We idolize the wrong people. They are told they have to be role models by some and by others we don’t want their opinion just play the game. They are only baseball players and are good at playing a game that is it. Every little thing we do now has been politicized. Glad they stood for the anthem. I will take that as a positive.

My guess is this is the beginning of the end for the anthem at sporting events.

 

[hinson32]

Like i said in another thread this week i dont expect most of the population of this board to return to any pro sports

We shall see, but last night’s ratings are rumored to be record setting. They will be out today. If the “outrage” didn’t make fans tune out on day one, I doubt it will long term.

I was visiting with my Dad last night and we were talking about this. He mentioned he heard the same type of bold comments from people in 1947 when Jackie broke in, lots of people said it was the end of baseball.

 

[HALL85]

People are starved for entertainment right now So I’m not sure there will be any meaningful take away from the ratings. And at the end of day it’s about creating positive change anyway. Policing reform is a local issue and it remains to be seen how this will be addressed in those cities and towns where it might be a problem.

Walking around Bridgehampton, NY last weekend I counted half a dozen BLM signs on multi-million dollar home lawns. Driving around Allentown this week, I counted twice as many “Back The Blue” lawn signs. I don’t need to share the demographics of each town and their minority populations.

 

[TrueBlue1989]

What i am saying is that this message board is filled with middle aged to senior citizen white men stuck in their beliefs with no change coming...the usa has an 18-45 group that is filled with latins, blacks, asians, women etc...well let's have a litmus test...i want to see the espn release on monday for what their first weekend averaged, i was to see the fox release on monday and a week from monday i want to see the turner and espn release for what their first nba weekend averaged

What I’m saying is that away from abortion and lack of school choice, there is not systematic racism in the US. Dems are ardent supporters of both evil policies. What I’m also saying is that the Dems are the party of slavery, the KKK and Jim Crow. Most black murders occur in Dem controlled cities. Dems drive the media and now sports.

What I’m saying is that cops are 18.5 times more likely to be killed than an unarmed black man. The vast majority of black murder is black on black crime. Blacks (and whites) commit suicide far more frequently than are murdered by police. 99%+ of police (like lawyers, doctors, teachers and priests) are honorable people trying to serve society. One unjust death is appalling but more unarmed white men are killed each year by police than are black. There are 10 million arrests each year, how many unarmed men are killed? What I’m saying is is that BLM is founded by avowed Marxists who are anti-family.

What I’m saying is that the US is the least racist country in the world and where the median black income is higher than in any other country. What I’m saying is that 45 million people are trying to enter the US legally and virtually no one leaves. It is the freest and most prosperous country that ever existed despite its obvious flaws— every major civilization has practiced slavery.

What I’m saying is that most members of this board are aware of the aforementioned. What I’m saying is that most people on this board have studied Western Civilization. What I’m saying is that most people on this board have seen or studied the horrors of Marxism and Socialism; these evil ideologies have failed everywhere and have resulted in 50 million + deaths, poverty, oppression and authoritarianism. People flee from these regimes not to them. What I’m saying is the that the Catholic Church has taught from the onset of these odious ideologies that they are evil. What I’m saying is that many people on this board are Catholics.

What I’m saying is that far to many young people are unaware of the aforementioned. What I’m saying is that young people are more interested at virtue signaling and pointing out the failings of others. What I’m saying is that far too many people today believe that they more enlightened, accomplished, educated and virtuous, despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary, than our forefathers.

What I’m saying is that I’m tired of this garbage ripping apart our great country. It is propelled by hate and ignorance with the principal goal of defeating Trump. I’m no great lover of Trump but have no choice but to support him.

 

[HALL85]

Now that’s a mic drop!!!

 

[Merge]

If the crazies on both sides think kneeling before the anthem is too much / not enough, I think they landed in about the right spot.

 

[SPK145]

Now that’s a mic drop!!!

And how

 

[Pirata]

What i am saying is that this message board is filled with middle aged to senior citizen white men stuck in their beliefs with no change coming.

That is about as narrow minded as it gets.

Any time you want to go head to head with comparing the time, talent, and treasure we have poured into our communities across all races, creeds, and colors, I am happy to do so. I pretty confident it would stack up versus your angry, racist rants and categorizations.