And more importantly it is not good enough that blacks and minorities are treated "good enough" by now.
Yankees kneel before, but not during national anthem
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All of this was initiated based on Andrew McCutchen of the Phillies. Too bad he didn't mention China, I wonder why?
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...nats-pregame-ceremony-acknowledging-injustice
Phillies' Andrew McCutchen unites with Yankees, Nationals for pregame ceremony acknowledging injustice
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...nats-pregame-ceremony-acknowledging-injustice
Phillies' Andrew McCutchen unites with Yankees, Nationals for pregame ceremony acknowledging injustice
Nice try. You need to call a false equivalency violation on yourself, especially given you are the FE police.
The example you cite is always relative to the timing of some event or date. It typically has a half-life. We don't have a moment of silence at every game for the shooting victims of Sandy Hook.
And with you being the Last Worder in Chief, let's argue this one into the ground.
Not really though. This is the issue they want to stand up for. Has nothing to do with anything else. Even if you think they should be focusing on something else... you don't get to decide that.
Kind of like if you volunteer your time for a cause you believe in, it is still worthy of your time even if it is not the most prevalent issue facing our country, right? You probably wouldn't want someone dropping by and accusing you of not caring for other issues because your time was spent helping a specific cause?
Whataboutism here is doing exactly that.
Can we just at least appreciate for a moment that these players were at least attempting to remove the most divisive part about the protest?
Thank you for the title btw.
Merge, LWIC
This is not about social injustices. It's about police reform. Stop telling everyone you're social justice advocates when the only concern you have is police reform. You'll gladly pay top dollar and wear a shirt made by an 8 year old in a factor with horrible conditions. Heck you'll protest while wearing a jersey made that way. That's not something the group cares about. It's about police reform and police reform only. In the mean time since cops have to be on edge and can't do their job without everyone overlooking their every move, thousands get shot.
Equivalency...claiming to be vegan for animal rights purposes but owning a slaughter house pays the bills.
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Since this thread has covered both, I wonder if an unarmed person is more likely to be killed by a police officer or by a thief for their expensive Nike sneakers?
One minor point lost on McCutchen. There are fewer black players today because there are more Hispanic players. Are Hispanic players considered to be a minority or a player of color? Does BLM apply to them?
That is a misguided statement. Baseball has lost the african american player to sports like football and basketball.
1975 active rosters had 18.5 percent blacks, early to mid 90s it was down to 16 percent blacks believe it was down to 8 percent as of 2012
I always believe in this if there was a young boy coming up I would guide them towards tennis golf and basketball. Those are the 3 sports that award the eliteness of the participant for the longest range with on field compensation and off field marketing endorsements. If you are very good at tennis or golf and crushing the comp and always in the mix for tournies you will be doing extremely well. Nba system is geared to be so good to be drafted high and stay with your team for 7 to 8 years you get max money
What is the percentage of white players in the NBA and better yet, what is the percentage of white American players?
You are saying latins took black jobs, i am saying the blacks went to other sports for jobs
Are you away of baseball rules? Mlb you have a signing period for international free agents that are 16 and above. Usa canada and puerto rico have to go to the draft process...
Mlb teams can raid latin america give far discounted signing bonuses and then have a kid dev for 3 to 4 years in minors and then get 7 seasons out of him before free agency...again of I am an athlete why would I choose baseball? Only so many trouts harpers machados betts....golf tennis hoops is where its at
What about the college route? Latino kids have excelled; give them credit.
So are you saying that a black kid makes the majors on talent, but Latino kids do because other players choose a different career path?
On college...typically if you are a 3rd or 4th year kid out of college as a position player your chance at a real shot at MLB roster is smaller and shelf life of career is low. You really want to get drafted out of HS. Someone like Ryan Howard who was an older first few years player is a real exception to that above.
Kyler Murray was a top 10 pick in MLB chose football.
I am saying there are far less black baseball players at college and pro levels than at anytime in the past and the ability for a team to sign a latin kid at 16 for a realitively small investment and have 10 years of control via minors and then mlb service time allows for more latins to be in the game and a greater chance some of those Latins will become top tier.
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Where do you come up with this stuff? There are more latins in the game because they're really good at baseball and play jut religiously in that region. It's a kids meal ticket out of a miserable country.
There are more college stars in baseball than you alude to. Just off the top of my head the world champion Nationals had Ryan Zimmerman, Max Scherzer, Stephen Strasburg, Anthony Rendon all were college players.
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Lmao and your point? They went to college and they stayed the required 3 years.
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I'llname you a few more for shits and giggles.
Chase Utley
Pat Burell
Michael Conforto
Keston Hiura
Kris Bryant
Dustin Pedroia
Ryan Braun
George Springer
Alex Bregman
I could go on and on and on, you're just wrong as usual.
Chase Utley
Pat Burell
Michael Conforto
Keston Hiura
Kris Bryant
Dustin Pedroia
Ryan Braun
George Springer
Alex Bregman
I could go on and on and on, you're just wrong as usual.
Actually one can go juco and get drafted after first or second year...you can even be a 21 year old soph and get drafted.
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Ok none of the people I named in 30 seconds went juco. You keep talking circles
You are citing exceptions over a long window of time, not the rule but carry on
IMO, from a dollars standpoint, hoops, yes. golf & tennis, no.
With hoops, you have the foreign teams in addition to the NBA. You can make decent money there. So many more slots than golf and tennis
In golf the only tours to make good money on is PGA and the Euro. The big money drops off pretty quick on those lists. Even with sponsorships, the lesser players are not killing it.
I don't know tennis but can't imaging the list is long for big $.
Aside from money, golf and tennis are two great sports that you can play your entire life and can play with men and woman.
I golf regularly with wife and we plan to do so for as long as we can. This despite the fact that she drives me crazy.
"Did you see where my ball went dear?"
"Yeah, I think so, it's over there somewhere"
and my favorite:
"What did you have there dear?"
"Let me see um... drive, second shot behind the tree... do I have to count the flub?.. um 1, 2, 3, ...ok 4th over behind the trap..on the green...2 putts...oh wait I missed the second one.....I have to count the little one right?...OK. give me an 8.
I was at a function once and Mark Calcavecchia was the guest speaker. He said on any given week there are about 30 guys that believe they should win the event. Everybody else on tour is playing to keep their card. Money drops off dramatically after the top and pro golf is all about sponsorship money.
You just did, clown
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It's not even about ALL black lives. No concern for the worsening inner citiy violence as kids are killed in the crossfire.
I have received a few complaints involving personal attacks on posters. This is not acceptable & not permitted on this board. Several posts have been deleted. There is no reason you can't discuss issues rationally without resorting to personal attacks. We can ban posters but that is not what I want to do. As I've said before I created this page for intelligent discussion of non sports issues. If that can't be done there is a good chance that this page will be totally shut down.
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