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Well, MLB just like the other sports has done this to themselves with expanded playoffs, relentless “injuries”, pitchers being babied which eliminates the old fashioned pitchers dual, lineups with no diversification, etc etcWhat a joke!
Also, I miss when the MLB regular season was interesting.
Why is this only ever mentioned for MLB? I didn’t hear anybody begging for robot referees after Tyrese Maxey clearly traveled on his 4pt play against the Knicks to literally force an additional playoff game.bring in the robots
As a Knicks fan - yes bring on the robots. My only fear is the players getting hurt running into themWhy is this only ever mentioned for MLB? I didn’t hear anybody begging for robot referees after Tyrese Maxey clearly traveled on his 4pt play against the Knicks to literally force an additional playoff game.
I don’t think any Knicks fans want to make too much noise about the officiating in that series. If they had called it correctly, the Knicks would be booking tee times for this week. At worst — and I mean worst — there’d be a game 7.Why is this only ever mentioned for MLB? I didn’t hear anybody begging for robot referees after Tyrese Maxey clearly traveled on his 4pt play against the Knicks to literally force an additional playoff game.
I love the reg season still. Listen to gary keith and ron all summer and watch a ton on mlb, espn, fox.What a joke!
Also, I miss when the MLB regular season was interesting.
Pitchers arent hurt cause they are babyed. They are all hurt cause few humans can throw the ball so fast and not get hurt.Well, MLB just like the other sports has done this to themselves with expanded playoffs, relentless “injuries”, pitchers being babied which eliminates the old fashioned pitchers dual, lineups with no diversification, etc etc
Pitchers arent hurt cause they are babyed. They are all hurt cause few humans can throw the ball so fast and not get hurt.
Maddox and glavine would be told to check back when youre hitting 96.
Good point 75. Absolutely zero to do “Babying” has everything to do with the games obsession with maximum spin rate..even at the high school level.. max spin rate does result in the best ultimate pitches but is not sustainable whatsoever, the system does not reward length by starter but has little to do with them being babiedWell, MLB just like the other sports has done this to themselves with expanded playoffs, relentless “injuries”, pitchers being babied which eliminates the old fashioned pitchers dual, lineups with no diversification, etc etc
And when they’re here Judge and Altuve will have the same strike zone. One will swinging 8 inches below his knees. The other will be swinging at pitches at his eyes.bring in the robots
Also might have to do with the fact there was a time lifting weights in baseball was frowned upon. Guys have gotten stronger but also their tendons and ligaments are tighter more ripe for injury on such a violent motion.Good point 75. Absolutely zero to do “Babying” has everything to do with the games obsession with maximum spin rate..even at the high school level.. max spin rate does result in the best ultimate pitches but is not sustainable whatsoever, the system does not reward length by starter but has little to do with them being babied
Basketball would cease to exist if robots refereed the game by the rule book. Players today, even professionals have zero idea how to play the game correctly. There’s literally a carry or palm ball every single possession. Games would be 0-0As a Knicks fan - yes bring on the robots. My only fear is the players getting hurt running into them
eh. I don’t agree. Most of the injuries can be traced back to the poor biomechanics when they were young.Pitchers arent hurt cause they are babyed. They are all hurt cause few humans can throw the ball so fast and not get hurt.
Maddox and glavine would be told to check back when youre hitting 96.
eh. I don’t agree. Most of the injuries can be traced back to the poor biomechanics when they were young.
Coaches don’t know the need for mobility and connective tissue strength to sustain the force of throwing.
Factor in playing baseball year round and not playing other sports to move in different directions (to give the hard throwing a rest) and you have a recipe for tremendous compression on white/connective tissue. Plus the added poor movement quality and tons of compensations….
Injuries waiting to happen.
Again not really any of these and it’s not straight velocity..the entire game is built around spin rate and increasing spin rate…the mechanics “taught” are taught to increase spin rate..the arm can only spin a ball so much for so long before it snapsMaddux also threw consistently at 92/93 and the radar guns back then were often about 3-4 mph slower than the high tech ones today.
Don’t sell Maddox short. It’s always the change of speeds and movement on the pitch (spin rate is popular now).
A few other things are:
pitchers on average are bigger (not weight - lifting bigger),
They’re on pitch counts so they don’t have to pace themselves for long outings
And diagnosis of injuries are much more rampant and more common. I think tons of pitchers threw injured back then
Actually it is this. Trust me. I’ve worked with PT’s and strength and conditioning coaches who directly worked with many MLB pitchers.Again not really any of these and it’s not straight velocity..the entire game is built around spin rate and increasing spin rate…the mechanics “taught” are taught to increase spin rate..the arm can only spin a ball so much for so long before it snaps
As a matter of fact, when the coaches Ives worked with have evaluated the deliveries of the pitchers even before their injuries come to light they can predict exactly what happens months or longer in advance.Again not really any of these and it’s not straight velocity..the entire game is built around spin rate and increasing spin rate…the mechanics “taught” are taught to increase spin rate..the arm can only spin a ball so much for so long before it snaps
yea that’s great. Most of that comes from Tom house. Not what I’m saying..all talent evaluators know about a vertical vs horizontal elbow at break out, and throwing across bodyAs a matter of fact, when the coaches Ives worked with have evaluated the deliveries of the pitchers even before their injuries come to light they can predict exactly what happens months or longer in advance.
And then there’s guys like Mike Mussina who threw with what I’ll call a hitch in his shoulder who pitched 20 years with no major injuries at all.As a matter of fact, when the coaches Ives worked with have evaluated the deliveries of the pitchers even before their injuries come to light they can predict exactly what happens months or longer in advance.
A little more complicated than just throwing mechanics.yea that’s great. Most of that comes from Tom house. Not what I’m saying..all talent evaluators know about a vertical vs horizontal elbow at break out, and throwing across body
That isn’t what I’m saying
You’re missing the point..it’s fine..my dad was a mlb scout for 25 years…my point is spin rate is the current obsession and until that happens or they manipulate rules to force longer starts it won’t changeA little more complicated than just throwing mechanics.
It’s about things like thoracic mobility, scapular mobility, internal hip control on pushing leg, etc.
And that’s only a few
As a caveat, I am a Dodger fan. The playoffs are where we go to kill an otherwise terrific season lolI love the reg season still. Listen to gary keith and ron all summer and watch a ton on mlb, espn, fox.
I don’t disagree at all with any of that.You’re missing the point..it’s fine..my dad was a mlb scout for 25 years…my point is spin rate is the current obsession and until that happens or they manipulate rules to force longer starts it won’t change
Nothing in today’s game incentivizes starters to go long. And most instructors won’t change any kind of mechanics of a kid who is already successful and that is 100% not happening at a professional level
The two biggest farces in North American coaching are mlb hitting and pitching coaches
A kid in town broke his arm pitching in a youth league. He was in HS. Heard he had an awesome breaking ball. (Not meant as a pun, that was his rep I am told.) He threw a pitch and broke his arm.I don’t disagree at all with any of that.
All of what you’re saying isn’t wrong.
But all I’m saying is that a lot of injuries can be mitigated if true proper body control and mobility were taught. No one focuses on any of that—it’s all about the end product.
And yeah—the coaches of these travel and AAU leagues don’t know anything about any of this and they’re not going to ask a kid to change a thing if he’s throwing 97 as a 15 year old.
Game has evolved with emphasis on more power. Home run is king so kids lift, juice, develop swings that maximize power. Pitchers need a 95+ fastball or the path to MLB is limited at best. Why are so many players that are physical specimens always sitting with muscle pulls, tears, etc?A kid in town broke his arm pitching in a youth league. He was in HS. Herd he had an awesome breaking ball. (Not meant as a pun, that was his rep I am told.) He threw a pitch and broke his arm.
lol no they can’t. Knock it offAs a matter of fact, when the coaches Ives worked with have evaluated the deliveries of the pitchers even before their injuries come to light they can predict exactly what happens months or longer in advance.
Cant make it up.nba refs anyone? Lol what was worse the kicked ball or the moving screen
nba refs anyone? Lol what was worse the kicked ball or the moving screen