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Waiting For UConn To Make A Statement

CL82
catholicman said:
The Big East should bill UConn a hefty penalty every time they enter into negotiations with another conference. Make it a rule in the conference.
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Funny that you would say that, because there was a penalty built into our existing contract if Connecticut talked to any P5 conference after signing the contract, but prior to joining the big east. So the parties expressly decided that there would be no penalty provision for us looking for a P five spot once we were a member.

You can say what you want about Val Ackerman, but she's not an idiot. She and everyone else in the deal understood that if an opportunity to go to what was then the P5 opened up, we would take it our contract with the Big East conference considers that and has penalty provisions in place should that happen. But, reasonably, those penalty provisions decrease the longer where in conference. For example, I believe if we stay in the big East for 10 years or more, then we just have the normal exit fees of any other conference member. so, if we leave here before we're in conference for six years, we pay an extra $20 million for the privilege of leaving. If we leave here after six years of membership, but before 10 years of membership, we pay an extra five million dollars for the privilege of leaving.
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Waiting For UConn To Make A Statement

CL82
SPK145 said:
You are not getting a full Big12 share until at least 2031.
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Yep. Which is why I don't think will be buying out our big east contract. That means no move will take place for 27 1/2 months after we give notice and we will be ponying $15 million.

For what it's worth, the devil is going to be in the details here. If between now and 2031, we need to make certain infrastructure improvements, for example, either building on campus stadium, or increasing Rentschler field to 50,000 capacity, that's some thing I think the university will agree to. if there are performance requirements, say making six bowl games, or being ranked in the top 20 three out of the next seven years, then I'm not sure we move basketball to the big 12 and just hope for the best.

Right now there's not enough detail out there to know whether this is a feasible deal or not. All we know is the two sides are talking.
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Waiting For UConn To Make A Statement

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HallB said:
You act as though $500m is just a mere pittance to pay in the scheme of things. That’s just to start…while you may have good NIL now joining b12 in football will likely require a lot more. I’m just saying that my opinion is that I feel like we’ve seen this story many times and it very much tends to lead to relative poor to mediocre results on the field. See BC Syracuse Pitt Rutgers. But I guess they have more money whatever that means for public institutions.
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No, a half billion dollars is a shit ton of money, but it's an investment for the next 30 years at least. if the legislature is faced with a choice of investing $175 million in our current 20 something year old facility or a half billion on campus, I'm not sure which way they'll go. If the big 12 makes an on campus facility a condition of joining, there's not a doubt in my mind that the legislature will pony up.

Keep in mind when I say a half billion, it may well be less than that, but it's gonna be a big number, because that's what things cost. The good news is that we already have all the on-campus facilities that we need, so all we need to do is build the stadium. Could that only be say $375 million? Possibly, I just don't know.

As to NIL, we are currently beating out P4 programs for recruits. Granted it's only the Pittsburgh's and equivalent programs, but we're able to compete now. I'm inclined to believe that a jump up to the P4 would motivate our existing donors and create new donors so that those numbers will go up. That's just an expectation, though.
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Waiting For UConn To Make A Statement

CL82
SPK145 said:
15 million if you leave after the 2025-26 season but you can’t leave then per BE bylaws so you’d have to buy your way out then unless you wait another year.
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I'm not making the decision, obviously, but if you count forward 27 1/2 months, which is required, we end up in the $15 million buyout section of our contract, which is still more than than anyone else would pay to leave the conference. If we were getting a full share of big 12 money, then a buyout makes sense because it would be paid off in one year's worth of increased media distribution. If we are offered, it looks as if we will get a partial share, so I'm not sure the math works for an early buyout. We will see.

Keep in mind, though, Connecticut has been through this dance multiple times before. I'll believe that we are moving when somebody's painting big 12 logos on floor at Gampel. Until then, we continue to be members of the Big East conference and likely will be for at least another two years. So, hopefully, in addition to our exit fee, we will also be leaving 10 to 20,000,000 in NCAA tournament credits. If we leave the big east is going to be fine financially, at least for the near term.
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OT: Baseball, Judge and Ohtani

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Judge has been incredible. I originally thought he was just another overrated yankee when he first came up. He turned himself into a complete player. I remember years ago against the Astros in the playoffs where threw the ball to second base and Altuve was rounding 3rd to score the winning run. He's become a very good defensive outfielder. He's not a .235 hitter mashing, he's a .300 hitter mashing.

Baseball playoffs are so unpredictable. The best teams don't get to the world series, the hottest teams in October go. Cleveland, Philadelphia, Houston, Atlanta are all capable of getting hot and eliminating anyone who gets in their way. The only team I would want to play in the playoffs is the Orioles (I'm an orioles fan) because they're pitching is so depleted having lost so many starters for the year.
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SHallguy2 said:
Dangerous? No wars with Trump, only wars right now. Senile guy talks in front of 100,000 people without a telepromter. I cannot do that can you? We already know Kamala cannot. Dems should have embraced RFK jr. but party is so far left and controlled by big money. Kamala is a puppet reading a speech. Look not happy with either candidate, we should have done better as a country but Trump is far from being dangerous and senile. That’s brainwashing you are getting from main stream media. We just spent 3 days listening to who hates Trump more speeches so you get a pass.
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Democrats didn't need to embrace RFK, Jr. but they should have given him the platform to primary Joe. But anything the elites can't control and fix they want no part of in their party. Kamala for the people is really Kamala for the elite people because she owes them big time.

How brainwashed can he be that he still believes Joe would have won. He can't admit the people aren't voting for someone who struggles off a teleprompter. I think the polls should be interesting this week. I think the RFK voters who wouldn't vote for Joe or Trump left RFK weeks ago if they were willing to go for Kamala when Joe so patriotically dug deep and for the good of the country left the race by his own personal choice. Now anyone who was still left with the RFK will likely go to Trump. So while many could expect a Kamala boost from the DNC pep rally, Trump may get a boost here. Although maybe democratic voters are pissed Beyonce wasn't there and they abandon ship.
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OT: Baseball, Judge and Ohtani

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As i got older, the only sport that didn't lose my interest to some extent was college hoops as played by the Seton Hall Pirates.

But i watch baseball all season. What a game. And today, we can watch Judge and Ohtani (tho to be honest haven't watched a yankee game in years. But Judge, just incredible).

"All time great" gets thrown around a lot. But these two guys playing in NYC and LA at the same time. Give me a break. Last night Ohtani gets an infield hit and steals his 40th. No throw. Then a walk off grand slam to win the game in the bottom of the ninth. Judge hits his 49th.

Lots of Dodger and Yankee greats. But these two guys, man o man. Another Dodger/Yankee WS? (Oh the pain lol) or another LA first round exit? I don't know. But we don't get to see guys like this too often.
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Waiting For UConn To Make A Statement

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CL82 said:
No sport at Connecticut is in the black, although men's basketball may have a shot this year given that its season tickets are already sold out. Keep in mind, though that we have to pay Hurley more than the big east media distribution, in the new contract. It's fine, he's worth it.

The actual deficit is pretty much the same number as the full media distribution for the big 12. So theoretically, we could be at roughly breakeven in the Big 12.

As I noted above in this thread, Connecticut actually has great football facilities, with the exception of a new stadium on campus. That's probably a half billion dollar investment, but it's one that I think the legislature will make.

We're still ways away from Connecticut getting an invite. We know from last summer at the big 12 presidents don't want to invite anyone to the conference who isn't already in the P4 club. Can that be overcome this time? Who knows?

My attitude at this point is pretty much a shrug. It's becoming extraordinarily expensive to put on high major athletics. The P4 conferences provide a better opportunity to be able to compete in that world, the big 12 only distributes about half of what the SEC and Big Ten do. I think the move is necessary to maintain the ability of Connecticut to be able to compete at the highest levels, but as I've said before, I enjoy being back in the big east. So my attitude right now is a resigned "wait and see."
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You act as though $500m is just a mere pittance to pay in the scheme of things. That’s just to start…while you may have good NIL now joining b12 in football will likely require a lot more. I’m just saying that my opinion is that I feel like we’ve seen this story many times and it very much tends to lead to relative poor to mediocre results on the field. See BC Syracuse Pitt Rutgers. But I guess they have more money whatever that means for public and not for profit institutions.
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