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Just an old man dreaming. Looking at the oc schedule and having faith in our coach to mold a pretty decent team out of this year's gang of pirates, what do you think of the possibility of us going into the Rutgers game undefeated ? Don't think I am delusional. I am just a 91 year old, class of 1956, pirate who has seen a lot of pirate basketball since I was 6 years old. So humor me. Give me your opinions. GO PIRATES!
Joe, I think they’ll be undefeated going into Charleston where they’ll be underdogs. Not big underdogs though. If we want to make the tourney, we have to beat teams like VCU, Vandy and Nevada. 2-1 in Charleston wouldn’t be the end of the world though and a loss there can certainly be offset with a win at Rutgers, which would be Quad 1.

But I defer to you! 85 years watching Seton Hall basketball! God bless you!
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Why couldn't they pass that same bill that still requires background checks to family and friends literally taking away a very easy way to get around it. They're handing it to you on a silver platter to not do background checks with something not easy to prove. We have these murders. We have fraud. We have identity theft. Yet you want to believe people are going to act in good faith with a bill with so many holes in it. SMH

Because republicans would not vote for what you’re suggesting.

They only got three republicans on board with that one which was obvious and easy. Passing what you or I want was not possible.
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Exactly. Pass something small, world doesn’t end and we can do more.

God forbid we pass an imperfect bill.
The major problem with the bill was that it would have created a commission to study the issue and make recommendations. Gun lobby has been forceful against the government doing any studies on gun violence. I guess the study would have had loopholes or something so it’s dumb.
Why couldn't they pass that same bill that still requires background checks to family and friends literally taking away a very easy way to get around it. They're handing it to you on a silver platter to not do background checks with something not easy to prove. We have these murders. We have fraud. We have identity theft. Yet you want to believe people are going to act in good faith with a bill with so many holes in it. SMH

Another school shooting in America

Exactly. Pass something small, world doesn’t end and we can do more.

God forbid we pass an imperfect bill.
The major problem with the bill was that it would have created a commission to study the issue and make recommendations. Gun lobby has been forceful against the government doing any studies on gun violence. I guess the study would have had loopholes or something so it’s dumb.
Because a “small bill” ignores the vast majority of gun homicides, and restricts the rights of lawful and law abiding gun owners. It’s interesting that the vast majority of these school shooters are students, from dysfunctional families where a parent provided access to the gun. Charging and convicting these parents will have a greater impact than any “small bill”.

Another school shooting in America

You could write the perfect bill with the dozens of gun owners that you know, with whatever enforcement you want, but you know it would never pass until the gun lobby loses their hold on their politicians.

Gun owners want common sense laws. The gun lobby doesn't.

It's not a lack of compromise, or a lack of writing a good bill. It's what will the lobby allow us to do (just like many other issues on both sides) which right now is nothing.
We have lobbyists in every aspect of our economy. Guns no different and fighting the money is a steep climb. Those lobbyists don’t do what’s best for the public in many cases (food, Pharma, etc.). BTW, I wouldn’t be shocked to see that tons of legislators on both sides have weapon stocks in their portfolio. The lobby is not going to budge until there is legislation that deals with the primary causes of gun violence. Until then, you’re right…they won’t do anything.

But even gun owners do not have the passion to support any legislation that limits their ability to purchase and use their guns lawfully, when those other issues remain ignored.

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x1000 to your last statement. why does their have to be the perfect solution preventing from any solution. kids being trapped and shot in their classrooms is just about the worst thing you could think of on earth. and people are actively against making progress. tells you a lot

Exactly. Pass something small, world doesn’t end and we can do more.

God forbid we pass an imperfect bill.
The major problem with the bill was that it would have created a commission to study the issue and make recommendations. Gun lobby has been forceful against the government doing any studies on gun violence. I guess the study would have had loopholes or something so it’s dumb.

Another school shooting in America

x1000 to your last statement. why does their have to be the perfect solution preventing from any solution. kids being trapped and shot in their classrooms is just about the worst thing you could think of on earth. and people are actively against making progress. tells you a lot
People are for progress, but we disagree on what is progress. That bill wasn't worth the paper it was written on. It gave every sale a potential loophole plus it also did nothing for black market sales, which is nearly half the problem with guns in this country.

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Your assumption is that there are hobbyists which will now intentionally break the law.
If they are a hobbyists, and now required to get a background check under federal law, they will likely just get a background check rather than stick their neck out for a stranger.

Again - we agree that all sales should require a background check. Not sure why you're so adamant against making improvements when making something perfect isn't on the table.

You need $5? Sorry, I only have $1 on me, do you want that?
NO! I NEED $5.

Start with 1, worry about the next 4 afterwards.
x1000 to your last statement. why does their have to be the perfect solution preventing from any solution. kids being trapped and shot in their classrooms is just about the worst thing you could think of on earth. and people are actively against making progress. tells you a lot
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I disagree. I know dozens of gun owners, and they are unanimous in the point of view that I shared. It’s the way you asked the question. They would be for background checks if there was also legislation and enforcement that was strict.

At the end of the day, if you want any kind of gun legislation, you’re going to have to compromise on the criminal consequences. Otherwise, it’s just not going to happen.

You could write the perfect bill with the dozens of gun owners that you know, with whatever enforcement you want, but you know it would never pass until the gun lobby loses their hold on their politicians.

Gun owners want common sense laws. The gun lobby doesn't.

It's not a lack of compromise, or a lack of writing a good bill. It's what will the lobby allow us to do (just like many other issues on both sides) which right now is nothing.
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Your assumption is that there are hobbyists which will now intentionally break the law.
If they are a hobbyists, and now required to get a background check under federal law, they will likely just get a background check rather than stick their neck out for a stranger.

Again - we agree that all sales should require a background check. Not sure why you're so adamant against making improvements when making something perfect isn't on the table.

You need $5? Sorry, I only have $1 on me, do you want that?
NO! I NEED $5.

Start with 1, worry about the next 4 afterwards.
Yup that's my assumption because people will do what they have to do to make money, just like every pizzeria and landscaper out there is intentionally breaking the law with a few hires here and there, but they do it to make more money. But don't worry there's a loophole friend.
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