SHUHoopsFan said:

My friends are baseball card hobbyists. They go to shows and have become friends with many other hobbyists. I'm sure it's the same with gun hobbyists. Loophole, don't need to do a background check. But I guess I'm wrong.

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Your assumption is that there are hobbyists which will now intentionally break the law.
If they are a hobbyists, and now required to get a background check under federal law, they will likely just get a background check rather than stick their neck out for a stranger.

Again - we agree that all sales should require a background check. Not sure why you're so adamant against making improvements when making something perfect isn't on the table.

You need $5? Sorry, I only have $1 on me, do you want that?
NO! I NEED $5.

Start with 1, worry about the next 4 afterwards.

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Seton75 said:

That was my initial feeling. And how I feel after some thought.

Maybe the difference now is that there are fewer landing spots, and those spots are bloated already so expansion is unlikely?. Maybe 16, 16, 18 are enough? Would hate to go back to the unbalanced schedule.

Cant believe there are now 17 ACC teams?

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18 for basketball including Notre Dame.

many of us live in NNJ, you think Hall fans will drive in droves to Trenton?

Merge said:

You would be wrong though. It helped, especially in regards to "hobbyists" selling at gun shows.

All gun sales or transfers should require a background check and registration.
That's my view. That doesn't prevent me from seeing that small steps towards that can help.

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My friends are baseball card hobbyists. They go to shows and have become friends with many other hobbyists. I'm sure it's the same with gun hobbyists. Loophole, don't need to do a background check. But I guess I'm wrong.

newshu1 said:

Re headcovers if you have the demand why not produce more? I dont understand. Reminds me of this pizza shop in Connecticut that runs out of dough daily and closes, why not simply order more pizza dough. Guess some people are just allergic to making money

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They may make the dough on site. There is a place I frequent in Brookfield that makes their dough in the evening, presumably for the next day.

The place you go to may not have the capacity to make more than they do for a variety of reasons.

School sold their soul to the BIG loses tens of millions of taxpayer dollars yearly with no hope of ever having a competitive football program..

HALL85 said:

The problem with that line of thinking is that the small changes have the biggest impact on legal and law, abiding gun owners. It is a non-starter for them.

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That's just not true though. The majority of law abiding gun owners would be fine with background checks for all sales.
Anything suggested though becomes a non starter because the gun lobby doesn't want to give an inch. They move the debate towards fearmongering against the government and nothing happens.

HALL85 said:

If you really want to compromise and get things done, then you have to actually compromise.

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As if the Toomey Manchin bill wasn't a watered down compromise?

SHUHoopsFan said:

You see a small change, while I think every sale in the country could bypass that small change by just saying we're friends.

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You would be wrong though. It helped, especially in regards to "hobbyists" selling at gun shows.

All gun sales or transfers should require a background check and registration.
That's my view. That doesn't prevent me from seeing that small steps towards that can help.

newshu1 said:

Re headcovers if you have the demand why not produce more? I dont understand. Reminds me of this pizza shop in Connecticut that runs out of dough daily and closes, why not simply order more pizza dough. Guess some people are just allergic to making money

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I'm no marketing guy, but there is something about scarcity and urgency that motivates consumers, too. That is, if everyone knew they could get a pizza there at 9 p.m. or whenever the mood hit them, then the urgency dissipates and maybe they get Chinese takeout instead. When you only have a limited window in which to pounce, many will do so.

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Merge said:

I agree with you. No private sales or transfers should go without a background check, but that was not on the table as something that could possibly pass. So instead of passing the small change that could pass, we get nothing.

Start with the small change, do more as necessary and possible.

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The problem with that line of thinking is that the small changes have the biggest impact on legal and law, abiding gun owners. It is a non-starter for them.

Unless you address things like mandatory penalties for gun crimes, nothing is going to happen.

If you really want to compromise and get things done, then you have to actually compromise.

Merge said:

I agree with you. No private sales or transfers should go without a background check, but that was not on the table as something that could possibly pass. So instead of passing the small change that could pass, we get nothing.

Start with the small change, do more as necessary and possible.

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You see a small change, while I think every sale in the country could bypass that small change by just saying we're friends. A small change that isn't on the honor system would be a good small change. This is on the honor system.

lloyde dobler said:

That worked sooooo well before.

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That was my initial feeling. And how I feel after some thought.

Maybe the difference now is that there are fewer landing spots, and those spots are bloated already so expansion is unlikely?. Maybe 16, 16, 18 are enough? Would hate to go back to the unbalanced schedule.

Cant believe there are now 17 ACC teams?

SHUHoopsFan said:

My thoughts are the whole law is a loophole. As long as I can get my friend to buy a gun I want, then sell/transfer it to me, I can get anything I want. I'm not a criminal mastermind in anyway and I just skirted the system. Not to mention if I'm the gun owner and I want to sell my gun and don't want to do the paperwork, I'll just claim the buyer is my friend. How does someone prove he's not?

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I agree with you. No private sales or transfers should go without a background check, but that was not on the table as something that could possibly pass. So instead of passing the small change that could pass, we get nothing.

Start with the small change, do more as necessary and possible.

HALL85 said:

Dan, I’m thinking taxing if he has to guard a big five, like Ousamane, etc.

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Maybe burly centers will take a seat cause he runs circles round them on O.

Stats under the federal ban under Bill Clinton show the huge reduction in mass shootings and the spike when the ban sunset under George Bush. I have stated this before during other school shootings. Every gun should be registered and tracked from manufacturer to buyer and then subsequent owner. When the chain is broken on ownership, that person should be held criminally liable for not transferring and registering the new owner.

Moreover, a ballistics data base should be done for every firearm to better track the people who use guns in crimes.

ivyhillparkk1963 said:

Once Clemson and Fla St bolt the ACC should merge with Big East forming an east coast super basketball conference..

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That worked sooooo well before.

ivyhillparkk1963 said:

Once Clemson and Fla St bolt the ACC should merge with Big East forming an east coast super basketball conference..

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statenman said:

hybrid conference with football schools and basketball only schools??

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Exactly. Isn't the notion of a hybrid conference with differing distributions the reason why you guys split off from the old big east? Keep in mind that a hybrid conference might be inclined to view compensating players much more favorably. That might mean the basketball only schools would be at a competitive disadvantage, not only with other conferences, but within their own conference.

I think that ship has largely sailed. (In many ways, it would be the best of all possible worlds for Connecticut, though.)

SPK145 said:

Pay the man:

https://www.mynilpay.com/

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Wow

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Re headcovers if you have the demand why not produce more? I dont understand. Reminds me of this pizza shop in Connecticut that runs out of dough daily and closes, why not simply order more pizza dough. Guess some people are just allergic to making money

Merge said:

Right... could you do that once? Probably. Twice? Maybe. Three times?
At some point there is a pattern where you are intentionally selling guns to people who would not be able to get them on their own and you're intentionally committing a crime but a loophole allows it.

That bill would have helped, albeit slightly..

But we'll never get to the more impactful laws because the gun lobby makes you think any progress to help close loopholes isn't worth it and they own our politicians.

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My thoughts are the whole law is a loophole. As long as I can get my friend to buy a gun I want, then sell/transfer it to me, I can get anything I want. I'm not a criminal mastermind in anyway and I just skirted the system. Not to mention if I'm the gun owner and I want to sell my gun and don't want to do the paperwork, I'll just claim the buyer is my friend. How does someone prove he's not?

What I agree on is lobbyists are a huge problem. Gun lobbyists are not the only one, food, pharma, etc all own the politicians. Getting rid of lobbyists I'm all for that.