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No doubt…police are brave and deserve our full support. Not defunding.
I don't think many Dems called for defunding the police back two years ago and certainly not now. But, Trump and other Republican Congressmen are calling to defund the FBI and DOJ. And this is now.
 
I don't think many Dems called for defunding the police back two years ago and certainly not now. But, Trump and other Republican Congressmen are calling to defund the FBI and DOJ. And this is now.
Way to deflect. Very few Dems spoke out against defunding when the call went out by the extremists in the party. The minute they saw it effect poll numbers, the backpedaling began.
 
Way to deflect. Very few Dems spoke out against defunding when the call went out by the extremists in the party. The minute they saw it effect poll numbers, the backpedaling began.
The head of the Party Joe Biden spoke out against it almost immediately. So stop. You don’t say a word about Trump calling for the FBI to be defunded along with the rest of the yahoos. The leader of the republicans.Party called for it. Not some councilman or 1st term congresswoman.
 
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The head of the Party Joe Biden spoke out against it almost immediately. So stop. You don’t say a word about Trump calling for the FBI to be defunded along with the rest of the yahoos. The leader of the republicans.Party called for it. Not some councilman or 1st term congresswoman.
No you stop with the whatsboutism, The original line was created by the Dem extremists, and everyone in the party either parroted the line or was silent. Even Biden gave a tepid response to it originally.

I really don’t care what Trump says and it has no bearing on this conversation. But funny you are now trying to make the slogan a Republican thing. Did Dems create the line Blue Lives Matter too?
 
Wrong obviously to defund FBI and DOJ,but also wrong for DOJ to forget threats on Supreme Court justices,investigate parents at school board meetings who disagree with teaching CRT,having FBI investigate traditional catholic parishes for teriorists but can’t prosecute people who bomb offices that are anti abortion because dopey Garland says bombers do it at night but abortion protesters do it in the daylight.Garland likely goes down as the most biased and dumb AG in modern history a distinction he earned.Who needs to worry about funding when the lapdog AG does Biden’s bidding the fake Catholic who doesn’t agree with his church on abortion,same sex marriage,( which he has officiated at) etc.
 
No you stop with the whatsboutism, The original line was created by the Dem extremists, and everyone in the party either parroted the line or was silent. Even Biden gave a tepid response to it originally.

I really don’t care what Trump says and it has no bearing on this conversation. But funny you are now trying to make the slogan a Republican thing. Did Dems create the line Blue Lives Matter too?
check your hall85 bingo card for "whataboutism"
 
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No you stop with the whatsboutism, The original line was created by the Dem extremists, and everyone in the party either parroted the line or was silent. Even Biden gave a tepid response to it originally.

I really don’t care what Trump says and it has no bearing on this conversation. But funny you are now trying to make the slogan a Republican thing. Did Dems create the line Blue Lives Matter too?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/democrats-congress-defund-police-movement/index.html. This is on June 8. Floyd died on May 25.

It’s great to ignore facts the way you do. The leadership of the Democratic Party was always against it. Contrast that to what the leader of the Republican Party states. It’s not a fringe movement from the extreme.
 
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How does another massacre turn into another he said she said argument about defund the police?

Either you're okay with these events continuing to happen or you're not. If you're okay with it than we should keep the status quo, but if you think parents should send their kids to school without fear of them being massacred, then the country must take action.

This problem is bigger than any individual rights to own weapons of war IMO.
 
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How does another massacre turn into another he said she said argument about defund the police?
Because cern called out the bravery of police which I agreed.
Either you're okay with these events continuing to happen or you're not. If you're okay with it then we should keep the status quo, but if you think parents should send their kids to school without fear of them being massacred, then the country must take action.
I’m against all gun violence, especially children. But more of those deaths happen outside school grounds. I don’t here the same outrage from you on those deaths.
This problem is bigger than any individual rights to own weapons of war IMO.
 
Because cern called out the bravery of police which I agreed.

I’m against all gun violence, especially children. But more of those deaths happen outside school grounds. I don’t here the same outrage from you on those deaths.

I'm against all violence, but it's more outrageous when little kids are being slaughtered in our schools than when a gangbanger gets killed on the street due to gang violence from making poor life choices.

There is a big distinction in those events.

The fact our country just offers thoughts and prayers is a joke.
 
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I'm against all violence, but it's more outrageous when little kids are being slaughtered in our schools than when a gangbanger gets killed on the street due to gang violence from making poor life choices.

There is a big distinction in those events.

The fact our country just offers thoughts and prayers is a joke.
Well we disagree because an innocent 8 year old kid in Philly that gets caught in the crossfire on the street or babies of a junkie mother that get shot or a 12 year old that doesn’t have the benefit of parents that give a shit and has no choice but to join a gang count the same to me. I never hear anyone even offering those kids thoughts and prayers.
 
Well we disagree because an innocent 8 year old kid in Philly that gets caught in the crossfire on the street or a 12 year old that doesn’t have the benefit of parents that give a shit and has no choice but to join a gang count the same to me. I never hear anyone even offering those kids thoughts and prayers.

I said gangbanger, not an 8- or 12-year-old caught in crossfire. Don't even get me started on how many POS parents there are that choose alcohol or drugs over providing for their kids, it's incredibly sad. My heart aches for the kids that go to bed at night with an empty belly and a parent passed out under the influence. We could sit here all-day commiserating on it.
 
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I said gangbanger, not an 8- or 12-year-old caught in crossfire. Don't even get me started on how many POS parents there are that choose alcohol or drugs over providing for their kids, it's incredibly sad. My heart aches for the kids that go to bed at night with an empty belly and a parent passed out under the influence. We could sit here all-day commiserating on it.
Well that’s exactly what I was referring to. Those kids matter just as much and we don’t hear politicians doing anything about getting the murderers arrested and put in jail.

Once again, don’t even get a thought or prayer from anyone about these kids.
 
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How does another massacre turn into another he said she said argument about defund the police?

Either you're okay with these events continuing to happen or you're not. If you're okay with it than we should keep the status quo, but if you think parents should send their kids to school without fear of them being massacred, then the country must take action.

This problem is bigger than any individual rights to own weapons of war IMO.

This push in recent years by utopian thinking people who think we can eliminate every single risk in life is nauseating to me. We saw it with covid, we see it with global warming, now we see it with this.

The chance of anyone being "massacred" at school is infinitesimal. It's not a risk that can be reasonably managed without going overboard.
 
Lol…”Steering clear”…not exactly “speaking out. Try harder cern.
Did you read the article or just the headline? Congressional leaders were against it.

Defunding police departments are not the answer,” House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, a Democrat of Maryland, told CNN on Monday. “We need police departments; we need to keep peace and order. This effort is about making sure that those who we give the authority to exercise that authority in a way that’s positive and expected by the American people.”

Others were more blunt. “That’s stupid. OK, that’s crazy and anyone that talks about that is nuts,” said Sen. Joe Manchin, a conservative West Virginia Democrat.

“I do not support defunding the police,” said Sen. Gary Peters, a Michigan Democrat facing voters in the fall. “The police departments are out there protecting citizens, and the overwhelming majority of law enforcement and police are protecting citizens.”

“I don’t think that’s a good idea,” said Sen. Doug Jones, an Alabama Democrat facing a tough road to reelection. “Defunding and disbanding is not something I would ever, ever support.”

senior House Democrats raised concerns, with House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn warning that talk about “defunding the police” could “hijack” efforts on police reform.
 
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This push in recent years by utopian thinking people who think we can eliminate every single risk in life is nauseating to me. We saw it with covid, we see it with global warming, now we see it with this.

The chance of anyone being "massacred" at school is infinitesimal. It's not a risk that can be reasonably managed without going overboard.

Utopian is thinking you can somehow force shitty people to provide basic necessities for the children in their home. Removing weapons of war from the population would be common sense, not going overboard.
 
Removing weapons of war from the population would be common sense, not going overboard.
I'd like to know the plan on how we're doing this? Are armed guards showing up to every house where one is registered? Are we just taking ammo off the shelves for these products? It sounds great, but how's it getting done. My bet is the enforcers will be tough in Upper Montclair and not so tough in the projects of major cities.
 
Utopian is thinking you can somehow force shitty people to provide basic necessities for the children in their home. Removing weapons of war from the population would be common sense, not going overboard.

Gun confiscation is not common sense. That will lead to more violence.
 
To each their own, we won't change each other's minds, but it's not utopian to think kids shouldn't be murdered in school.
Everyone is against that but no one wants to talk about comprehensive laws and enforcement that will mitigate the risk of children (and adult) homicides.
 
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I'm against all violence, but it's more outrageous when little kids are being slaughtered in our schools than when a gangbanger gets killed on the street due to gang violence from making poor life choices.

There is a big distinction in those events.

The fact our country just offers thoughts and prayers is a joke.
the pretend righteous right board desperately tries to make thise distinctions to justify and deflect. awful people.terrible morals. especially the ones youre responding to
 
the pretend righteous right board desperately tries to make thise distinctions to justify and deflect. awful people.terrible morals. especially the ones youre responding to
Typical response from the “I don’t like guns” whiner. Why don’t you volunteer to lead the gun confiscation task force? You would do an awesome job:).
 
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