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Bravo Lindsey Graham

Is there a special on straw today? I wouldn’t vote for someone of Trump’s ilk if they were a blood relative, agreed 100% with every policy position I have, and offered me a lifetime of riches for my support. I’m glad you’ve rationalized it for yourself. Kudos. Meanwhile Trump has turned the GOP into something that resembles a European populist party. But hey, what’s the harm?

We have a 2 choices a populist party or a socialist party....in my mind that leaves only 1 choice.
 
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Got ya. Nothing wrong with politicians lying as long as you don't do it as much as Trump. The system is a joke, but if you're content to fight for the guys who lie to the American people less than Trump, you have the bar set really low. People are willing to put up with Trump's lies because he's putting money in people's wallets and portfolios. That's their choice it doesn't make it right. At the same time it might be the best option because the other options flat out suck. But at least they see something positive out of it. It's a better option than trying socialism where people don't feel the need to get ouf of bed to go to work. I don't want any politician lying to us. But if they're all going to lie....they might as well help the people while lying. But maybe you prefer being lied to and screwed at the same time.
Serious question did you some how end up paying less taxes this year? I mean I got raped as designed.

Do you really think farmers are thinking man these trade tariffs are really helping? And no the farmers don't believe their socialistic handouts (which get to some of them) are a long term solution.

All he has to do is say the brown girl likes socialism and is a communist and the racist chants commence.

Btw Obama will never get the credit he deserves but the dow was up 65% in the same time frame that trump is up 32%.
Job growth soared under Obama that has slowed under Trump although still going in the same direction.
Any where from a dip to a crash is coming within the next two years. And it could play a big part in the election.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Lol.. look at that graph and tell me with a serious face that Trump is the one that should be celebrated for his low unemployment rate.
 
Serious question did you some how end up paying less taxes this year? I mean I got raped as designed.

Do you really think farmers are thinking man these trade tariffs are really helping? And no the farmers don't believe their socialistic their socialism handouts (which get to some of them) are a long term solution?

All he has to do is say the brown girl likes socialism and is a communist and the racist chants commence.

Btw Obama will never get the credit he deserves but the dow was up 65% in his first two years compared to trumps 32%.
Job growth soared under Obama that has slowed under Trump although still going in the same direction.
Any where from a dip to a crash is coming within the next two years. And it could play a big part in the election.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Lol.. look at that graph and tell me with a serious face that Trump is the one that should be celebrated for his low unemployment rate.

Answer yes. I'm not paying $25,000 in real estate taxes so I didn't lose out tremendously on schedule A and section 199a helped. Serious question....Do you think you will pay less in taxes with a socialist regime? And do you think that money will be spent on you or any Tom, Dick, and Harry that just decides to cross our border that day?

Ask all the famous people that have mansions in our state that raise animals, harvest Christmas trees, etc and qualify their mansions as farms to pay less real estate taxes than me and you do. Those tremendous farmers we have in this state. It's such a joke.

He actually said the brown girl? I never heard that. Shame on him if he did. But AOC and Omar need to get together and actually discuss things. Omar says 9/11 was caused by Americas getting involved other countries while AOC says we need to fix the problems in Central America. Which is it? Get involved or don't get involved. I'm so confused.

100% agree the economy is huge the next 16 months for the next election.

Trump should be celebrated for his unemployment rate. That doesn't mean Obama shouldn't be either. But when you combine the unemployment rate with the markets all time highs, that's what should truly be celebrated.
 
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Answer yes. I'm not paying $25,000 in real estate taxes so I didn't lose out tremendously on schedule A and section 199a helped.

Ask all the famous people that have mansions in our state that raise animals, harvest Christmas trees, etc and qualify their mansions as farms to pay less real estate taxes than me and you do. Those tremendous farmers we have in this state. It's such a joke.

He actually said the brown girl? I never heard that. Shame on him if he did. But AOC and Omar need to get together and actually discuss things. Omar says 9/11 was caused by Americas getting involved other countries while AOC says we need to fix the problems in Central America. Which is it? Get involved or don't get involved. I'm so confused.

100% agree the economy is huge the next 16 months for the next election.

Trump should be celebrated for his unemployment rate. That doesn't mean Obama shouldn't be either. But when you combine the unemployment rate with the markets all time highs, that's what should truly be celebrated.
lol.. actually looking at what Obama did with the stock market is pretty damn impressive dow $8,000 to $21,000 while president. It continues to trend up a little and Trump claims all the glory similar to the unemployment rate.

As you said the unemployment rate 9.9 down to 4.1 and dow up $8k to $21k should be celebrated! Give my man some props.
 
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lol.. actually looking at what Obama did with the stock market is pretty damn impressive dow $8,000 to $26,000 while president. It continues to trend up a little and Trump claims all the glory similar to the unemployment rate.

As you said the unemployment rate 9.9 down to 4.1 and dow up $8k to $26k should be celebrated! Give my man some props.
Thanks for ignoring the rest of my answer. I attempted to be fair and answer everything. You cherry picked what you wanted. Very nice.

You couldn't careless that the millionaires are not paying real estate tax in NJ with a democratic governor?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...on-jovi-tax-bills-after-new-jersey-law-change

Both guys spew their left wing BS but they're finding every loophole to protect their wealth.

You couldn't careless to answer about Omar and AOC telling us how to handle the rest of the world.

Heck you couldn't careless about paying more taxes with a socialist economy and where that money goes.
 
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How anyone could side with these Democrats blows my mind... healthcare for all illegal immigrants, no thanks. My wife and I dont work our ass off to support illegals. If that comes to pass you can expect a revolt in this country.
 
Omar and AOC might have a difference in a opinion on that topic. I don’t know.

I don’t know what your getting at with your nj farmers story but some swingstate farmers have taken it to the chin with trump’s tariff debacle. (any end in sight?)
 
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Omar and AOC might have a difference in a opinion on that topic. I don’t know.

I don’t know what your getting at with your nj farmers story.

They have a difference of opinion, but they never discuss it.

Look how all these liberal advocates are protecting themselves. They want us all to pay for everything but they don't want to pay it themselves. You're buying into what most of these people don't want to practice themselves.
 
How anyone could side with these Democrats blows my mind... healthcare for all illegal immigrants, no thanks. My wife and I dont work our ass off to support illegals. If that comes to pass you can expect a revolt in this country.

Blame Reagan.
He is the one who signed into law that hospitals need to accept anyone.

If we have amnesty AND medicare for all.. Of course illegal immigrants will have access to what they are paying into especially since they would no longer be illegal.

Though... you are talking about idealism in what is far left policy right now vs what will actually happen, so you can stop sharpening the pitchforks and put them away.
 
Blame Reagan.
He is the one who signed into law that hospitals need to accept anyone.

If we have amnesty AND medicare for all.. Of course illegal immigrants will have access to what they are paying into especially since they would no longer be illegal.

Though... you are talking about idealism in what is far left policy right now vs what will actually happen, so you can stop sharpening the pitchforks and put them away.
So when a day worker gets hired on an urban street corner to do construction or manual labor and makes a mistake and gets hurt the company that brought them in to the job can just get them to an er and wash their hands of it
 
Answer yes. I'm not paying $25,000 in real estate taxes so I didn't lose out tremendously on schedule A and section 199a helped. Serious question....Do you think you will pay less in taxes with a socialist regime? And do you think that money will be spent on you or any Tom, Dick, and Harry that just decides to cross our border that day?

Ask all the famous people that have mansions in our state that raise animals, harvest Christmas trees, etc and qualify their mansions as farms to pay less real estate taxes than me and you do. Those tremendous farmers we have in this state. It's such a joke.

He actually said the brown girl? I never heard that. Shame on him if he did. But AOC and Omar need to get together and actually discuss things. Omar says 9/11 was caused by Americas getting involved other countries while AOC says we need to fix the problems in Central America. Which is it? Get involved or don't get involved. I'm so confused.

100% agree the economy is huge the next 16 months for the next election.

Trump should be celebrated for his unemployment rate. That doesn't mean Obama shouldn't be either. But when you combine the unemployment rate with the markets all time highs, that's what should truly be celebrated.
A president should be celebrated for getting an unemployment rate down where a significant amount of the jobs filled were minimum wage or slightly above?
 
And there is a big difference between what Reagan signed into law and offering healthcare to all. The law just meant hospitals can’t deny healthcare to someone in need. That doesn’t cover everything else like preventative care, pharmaceuticals, routine check ups, non-emergency surgery, etc.
 
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Blame Reagan.
He is the one who signed into law that hospitals need to accept anyone.

If we have amnesty AND medicare for all.. Of course illegal immigrants will have access to what they are paying into especially since they would no longer be illegal.

Though... you are talking about idealism in what is far left policy right now vs what will actually happen, so you can stop sharpening the pitchforks and put them away.
Guarantee you a small business company would rather seek out undocumented day workers for maybe 50-100 dollars of compensation per day than actively find motivated people would gladly work for a decent living wage with health benefits. I have lived and worked nyc, LA and suburban NJ have seen morning recruiters at all 3 find undocumented day workers that have no English communication for the sake of having a no strings attached situation, and knowing any on site or job injury they can just pass them off to an er
 
And there is a big difference between what Reagan signed into law and offering healthcare to all. The law just meant hospitals can’t deny healthcare to someone in need. That doesn’t cover everything else like preventative care, pharmaceuticals, routine check ups, non-emergency surgery, etc.

Sure.
The question is where we go from here.

Deport 11 milion people or acknowlege they are here and get them on the books. Of you choose the second option, then they should have access to healthcare.
 
Guarantee you a small business company would rather seek out undocumented day workers for maybe 50-100 dollars of compensation per day than actively find motivated people would gladly work for a decent living wage with health benefits. I have lived and worked nyc, LA and suburban NJ have seen morning recruiters at all 3 find undocumented day workers that have no English communication for the sake of having a no strings attached situation, and knowing any on site or job injury they can just pass them off to an er

Of course. Let's change the laws so we can stop exploiting them.
 
Blame Reagan.
He is the one who signed into law that hospitals need to accept anyone.

If we have amnesty AND medicare for all.. Of course illegal immigrants will have access to what they are paying into especially since they would no longer be illegal.

Though... you are talking about idealism in what is far left policy right now vs what will actually happen, so you can stop sharpening the pitchforks and put them away.
So when a day worker gets hired on an urban street corner to do construction or manual labor and makes a mistake and gets hurt the company that brought them in to the job can just get them to an er and wash their hands of it

If the hospital accepts any payments from Medicare then it is required to stabilize anyone who shows up at their door. After stabilization they can discharge them if the person is unable to pay. That would apply to illegal aliens and US citizens also.
 
Sure.
The question is where we go from here.

Deport 11 milion people or acknowlege they are here and get them on the books. Of you choose the second option, then they should have access to healthcare.
No one is advocating wholesale deportation of 11 million. Amnesty, No. A path to citizenship that they have to adhere (and respects those who stood in line. Yes.
 
Is there a special on straw today? I wouldn’t vote for someone of Trump’s ilk if they were a blood relative, agreed 100% with every policy position I have, and offered me a lifetime of riches for my support. I’m glad you’ve rationalized it for yourself. Kudos. Meanwhile Trump has turned the GOP into something that resembles a European populist party. But hey, what’s the harm?

"Stop bitchin about Trump! "

 
I’m not the author of unhinged rants...mirror time Stevie

I think we hit the cycle!

Accuses someone of TDS. Check.
Claims of unhinged rants. Check.
Deflect and/or throw a bunch of questions out instead of providing an answer. Check.
Petty sniping. Cycle!
 
A president should be celebrated for getting an unemployment rate down where a significant amount of the jobs filled were minimum wage or slightly above?
Getting the bottom 5% jobs is the toughest group to get jobs for. When you have an unemployment rate of 10% there’s a decent number of qualified workers out there. When you get down to 5% the majority of the qualified candidates got their jobs already.

It would be great if everyone could make $50,000 minimum. It’s just not feasible in a capitalistic society at this point in time. You could do that in a socialist society, but why would anyone wake up to pick up the trash, if they could get the same for sitting at home?
 
I think we hit the cycle!

Accuses someone of TDS. Check.
Claims of unhinged rants. Check.
Deflect and/or throw a bunch of questions out instead of providing an answer. Check.
Petty sniping. Cycle!
Lol...you just can’t help yourself...you’re textbook Stevie Boy.
 
What are you talking about here? I know your viewpoint is that people are lazy and are mooching off of you and other hard working people.
Obama got the unemployment to 4 and it has continued to go under 4. What is an acceptable unemployment rate before you realize that people actually do want to work/need to work?
Unemployment rate has nothing to do with people wanting to work. If you do not attempt to find a job, you’re not considered unemployed so those people don’t factor into the rate. A ton of people who don’t want to go to work and do the bare minimum at their jobs. In our society you need to work for our nation to prosper. The vast majority do want to work. However show them a system where people get the same reward for not working. See what happens.
 
Look we can argue policy all day and I get that it is should be policy that will win the election.

For me, as an independent (who has voted for both parties.) I draw the line at rape allegations , many sexual assualt allegations (ranging from a 13 year old child to his 2nd wife), being caught on camera bragging about being a sexual predator, racist remarks, calling a women horse face whose the pornstar that you paid off for cheating on your other pornstar wife and got your lawyer (and maybe hope hicks?) thrown into jail, obstruction of justice, more racist comments, just overall being a shitty person, the lying, the narcissism, etc.

But I understand those things don’t matter for you. It does for me.
 
Unemployment rate has nothing to do with people wanting to work. If you do not attempt to find a job, you’re not considered unemployed so those people don’t factor into the rate. A ton of people who don’t want to go to work and do the bare minimum at their jobs. In our society you need to work for our nation to prosper. The vast majority do want to work. However show them a system where people get the same reward for not working. See what happens.
If you don’t qualify as unemployed (not seeking work) then you don’t get an unemployment check correct? And if so you aren’t getting same reward.
 
Look we can argue policy all day and I get that it is should be policy that will win the election.

For me, as an independent (who has voted for both parties.) I draw the line at rape allegations , many sexual assualt allegations (ranging from a 13 year old child to his 2nd wife), being caught on camera bragging about being a sexual predator, racist remarks, calling a women horse face whose the pornstar that you paid off for cheating on your other pornstar wife and got your lawyer (and maybe hope hicks?) thrown into jail, obstruction of justice, more racist comments, just overall being a shitty person, the lying, the narcissism, etc.

But I understand those things don’t matter for you. It does for me.
I agree with you, that leadership matters. Probably why Congress is failing us today because there is such a grave lack of it. Roughly 130million people voted for two morally corrupt candidates in 2016. They didn’t have to, but they did. Demand better candidates and don’t fall into the blind ideology.
 
If you don’t qualify as unemployed (not seeking work) then you don’t get an unemployment check correct? And if so you aren’t getting same reward.
No unemployment check but plenty of government programs that support them. We will reclass the funds to welfare, food stamps etc. Don’t get me wrong, I believe those things are needed. That’s not even the real issue. The real issue is if people who don’t participate get the rewards(socialism) then what percentage of other people will stop working.
 
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Look we can argue policy all day and I get that it is should be policy that will win the election.

For me, as an independent (who has voted for both parties.) I draw the line at rape allegations , many sexual assualt allegations (ranging from a 13 year old child to his 2nd wife), being caught on camera bragging about being a sexual predator, racist remarks, calling a women horse face whose the pornstar that you paid off for cheating on your other pornstar wife and got your lawyer (and maybe hope hicks?) thrown into jail, obstruction of justice, more racist comments, just overall being a shitty person, the lying, the narcissism, etc.

But I understand those things don’t matter for you. It does for me.

We have a Congressional slush fund for sexual harassment in this country. All of our politicians knew about it and instead of stopping sexual harassment kept it hush hush and protected their fellow members. Go ahead pick on Trump but be fair everyone else is equally disgusting. So when you listen to Chuck and Nancy get on moral high ground, why didn’t they step up in all their time there to stop this. They’ve essentially protected sexual predators for years.
 
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