Cooper is a more boring version Beshear. Steady and good governor. Just boring. And boring in this country loses.
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I don’t think that’s the case. She have been a bad VP. No one will be mad that she is not nominated for President. That is a sure way to lose.
That is sad . I guess the word moderate is " Passe" . Steady and being a good governor is not enough too bad .
You're incorrectly trying to use performance or competence for the role as reasons anyone would be upset that she gets "passed over" in this hypothetical. It's all about her skin color and XX chromosomes.
Harris did horribly drawing black voters during the primary in 2020. And it’s been downhill since.
There needs to be a minority on the ticket, but it won’t be her.
Dems should roll with Wes Moore- Maryland governor. Young, enthusiastic, smart, business man, veteran.
Anyone who thinks Biden wasn’t in this state for the last 4 years is delusional. He’s been pumped with drugs for every appearance since he’s been elected. This was all a democrat ploy to replace him before November. Trump should have never agreed to debating this early and playing into their cards
Anyone who thinks Biden wasn’t in this state for the last 4 years is delusional. He’s been pumped with drugs for every appearance since he’s been elected. This was all a democrat ploy to replace him before November. Trump should have never agreed to debating this early and playing into their cards
I'd rather go with Shapiro of all the Democrat governors. But they will pick a partisan hack like Whitmer, Newsom, or Pritzker. Maybe even our own Phil Murphy LOL.
I agree this debate was a ploy to replace Biden, but Trump wasn't really hurt by it. The muted mics actually helped him and didn't make him appear unhinged. He knew he wouldn't be heard if he interrupted so he didn't even try. He started very strong but couldn't hold that discipline for 90 minutes. That said, I thought it was a decent night for him. The contrast was crystal clear.
If you believe Biden will now step down, what’s the over/under on his decision/announcement? My guess is before next Friday.
I’m not buying the statements from him about staying in or from Obama, etc. The dreaded vote of confidence.
Dropping out in the first 48 hours would be knee-jerk. It needs to look measured and that he made a thoughtful decision. Dems also have to have public messaging on the replacement plan.
I’m not buying the statements from him about staying in or from Obama, etc. The dreaded vote of confidence.
Dropping out in the first 48 hours would be knee-jerk. It needs to look measured and that he made a thoughtful decision. Dems also have to have public messaging on the replacement plan.
Beshear would never run now. He’s popular in Kentucky, which is red, but wouldn’t beat Trump in Kentucky. I think he has his goal set on 2028.
The problem with Beshear and most of the cast of characters is that they have zero or little name recognition nationally and never having been under a national spotlight, run the risk of having a flame out moment (see Sarah Palin). Also I’m sure there are piles of op research being collected that will be used immediately.
Newsome is most logical but what do you do with Harris? Keep her as VP (two Californians?), or jettison for another minority?
You know Bernie will be positioning for something.
I don't see Biden resigning the presidency, but I do see him exiting the race. I'd expect that decision within two weeks. They will likely make the move right before the GOP convention.
Dr. Jill is in Allentown tomorrow. Traffic on Rt. 22 in the afternoon will be brutal. Thinking Friday or next Monday for Joe to exit race.
GOP Convention begins Monday 7/15. If he is going to go, it would be wise to do so just before that in order to throw off their messaging. I do see this Friday as a possibility though.
I think the meeting at Camp David yesterday was a red herring. Of course his family stands behind him - that's the story they wanted out. But party leaders and other influential figures, including two former presidents, will likely get their way. Money will dry up from the big fish and the political pressure will force him out of the race. Dems would be smart to go with Whitmer or Shapiro, but I think they'll go with Newsom or Harris. Would love to find out how the sausage gets made there with two products of the San Francisco political machine. I'm sure Nancy will be involved as well.
Will be interesting to see if any dark horses emerge. Would Crooked Hillary give it another shot? Everyone talks about Michelle Obama but she's been quite clear she has no interest. Though I bet Barack feels differently and would love to get back in the White House...
I think they need to get their own house in order because every day is critical. GOP convention IMO means very little.
Newsom most logical as he did well against DeSantis in the debate they had. Also has national name recognition. Newsom assures Harris won’t be ticket. They will pay her to go away.
Everyone still hates Hillary and she’s more miserable that she was eight years ago. Barack would be intriguing but does he want to jump back in and potentially risk his legacy? Michell….lol. So if I need open heart surgery do I have the credentialed cardiac surgeon do it or trust his stay at home wife to do it.
Barack wouldn't risk his legacy at all. He'd be running the show in the background as First Gentleman.
Biden is not dropping out, the debate will be memory holed in a few weeks. The Dems have already shifted to increasingly hysterical messaging that Trump will be assassinate his political opponents and the Supreme Court is going to help him!
As the Dems plans fall apart I truly fear the next 4 months. If 2020 was any indication we may in for some pain to shift the trend in the election.
As the Dems plans fall apart I truly fear the next 4 months. If 2020 was any indication we may in for some pain to shift the trend in the election.
Tim Ryan just gave an interview where he unequivocally said Biden needs to step down and Harris should be the nominee. That’s a complete 180 from his interview on Sunday where he said was fully supporting Biden.
CNN ran polls that shows the gap has widened nationally.
CNN ran polls that shows the gap has widened nationally.
I think most are disgusted with both parties.
I know you are a D but I don’t get any D’s interest in Newsome for any other reason except that he would probably win. The guy makes normal politicians look like frauds and phonies and his record in CA is awful from everything I read (and no I don’t read right wing sites, this is normal mainstream stuff). He’s a skilled talker, etc, but there are so many better candidates with actual accomplishments they could run.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/conspiracy-of-silence-to-protect-joe-biden.html
This is pretty damning disturbing….not a recent problem.
This is pretty damning disturbing….not a recent problem.
The interview tonight went about as well as it could for Trump. Not bad enough to force Biden to drop out, not good enough to reassure anyone. If Trump has any discipline at all he will keep a low profile and let this get even uglier for Biden & dems.
Joe is delusional, out of touch, or both. No vision for a second term, just talking points and overstating what he's done in 3.5 years.
Sounds like the Dems aren't stupid though and will rally to get him out of the race soon. House Dems meeting Sunday and another one came out tonight calling for Joe to drop out. The governor's meeting wasn't exactly a vote of confidence either. Only three went out to talk to the media (none named Newsom, Whitmer, or Pritzker), which was telling.
Sounds like the Dems aren't stupid though and will rally to get him out of the race soon. House Dems meeting Sunday and another one came out tonight calling for Joe to drop out. The governor's meeting wasn't exactly a vote of confidence either. Only three went out to talk to the media (none named Newsom, Whitmer, or Pritzker), which was telling.
Do you see where we are as a nation? 16 20 24 same type of candidates in both parties.
