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I'm surprised his name has never been mention . Governor Roy Cooper of North Carolina .Maybe because he is not interested . A moderate D in a red state . Solid background. I would like to read some comments on him .
Cooper is a more boring version Beshear. Steady and good governor. Just boring. And boring in this country loses.
 
Axelrod has been in the not-Biden column for months.

Can't believe he'd step aside but if he does, sadly, Harris get right of first refusal.

Only person who can make him step aside is Jill.
 
I don’t think that’s the case. She have been a bad VP. No one will be mad that she is not nominated for President. That is a sure way to lose.

You're incorrectly trying to use performance or competence for the role as reasons anyone would be upset that she gets "passed over" in this hypothetical. It's all about her skin color and XX chromosomes.
 
I don’t think that’s the case. She have been a bad VP. No one will be mad that she is not nominated for President. That is a sure way to lose.
Harris did horribly drawing black voters during the primary in 2020. And it’s been downhill since.

There needs to be a minority on the ticket, but it won’t be her.
 
Dems should roll with Wes Moore- Maryland governor. Young, enthusiastic, smart, business man, veteran.

Anyone who thinks Biden wasn’t in this state for the last 4 years is delusional. He’s been pumped with drugs for every appearance since he’s been elected. This was all a democrat ploy to replace him before November. Trump should have never agreed to debating this early and playing into their cards
 
Dems should roll with Wes Moore- Maryland governor. Young, enthusiastic, smart, business man, veteran.

Anyone who thinks Biden wasn’t in this state for the last 4 years is delusional. He’s been pumped with drugs for every appearance since he’s been elected. This was all a democrat ploy to replace him before November. Trump should have never agreed to debating this early and playing into their cards

I'd rather go with Shapiro of all the Democrat governors. But they will pick a partisan hack like Whitmer, Newsom, or Pritzker. Maybe even our own Phil Murphy LOL.

I agree this debate was a ploy to replace Biden, but Trump wasn't really hurt by it. The muted mics actually helped him and didn't make him appear unhinged. He knew he wouldn't be heard if he interrupted so he didn't even try. He started very strong but couldn't hold that discipline for 90 minutes. That said, I thought it was a decent night for him. The contrast was crystal clear.
 
If you believe Biden will now step down, what’s the over/under on his decision/announcement? My guess is before next Friday.

I’m not buying the statements from him about staying in or from Obama, etc. The dreaded vote of confidence.

Dropping out in the first 48 hours would be knee-jerk. It needs to look measured and that he made a thoughtful decision. Dems also have to have public messaging on the replacement plan.
 
Beshear would never run now. He’s popular in Kentucky, which is red, but wouldn’t beat Trump in Kentucky. I think he has his goal set on 2028.
 
Beshear would never run now. He’s popular in Kentucky, which is red, but wouldn’t beat Trump in Kentucky. I think he has his goal set on 2028.
The problem with Beshear and most of the cast of characters is that they have zero or little name recognition nationally and never having been under a national spotlight, run the risk of having a flame out moment (see Sarah Palin). Also I’m sure there are piles of op research being collected that will be used immediately.

Newsome is most logical but what do you do with Harris? Keep her as VP (two Californians?), or jettison for another minority?

You know Bernie will be positioning for something.
 
If you believe Biden will now step down, what’s the over/under on his decision/announcement? My guess is before next Friday.

I’m not buying the statements from him about staying in or from Obama, etc. The dreaded vote of confidence.

Dropping out in the first 48 hours would be knee-jerk. It needs to look measured and that he made a thoughtful decision. Dems also have to have public messaging on the replacement plan.

I don't see Biden resigning the presidency, but I do see him exiting the race. I'd expect that decision within two weeks. They will likely make the move right before the GOP convention.
 
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I don't see Biden resigning the presidency, but I do see him exiting the race. I'd expect that decision within two weeks. They will likely make the move right before the GOP convention.
Yes, I meant exit not step down.
 
I don't see Biden resigning the presidency, but I do see him exiting the race. I'd expect that decision within two weeks. They will likely make the move right before the GOP convention.
Friday july 5th news dump
 
Kinda funny Biden collapses big Dem lie exposed and comeback is both were bad in debate.Trump crushes him and Obama chalks it up to nothing but bad debate.Condescending Dems continue to think the great unwashed will believe them.
 
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Dr. Jill is in Allentown tomorrow. Traffic on Rt. 22 in the afternoon will be brutal. Thinking Friday or next Monday for Joe to exit race.

GOP Convention begins Monday 7/15. If he is going to go, it would be wise to do so just before that in order to throw off their messaging. I do see this Friday as a possibility though.

I think the meeting at Camp David yesterday was a red herring. Of course his family stands behind him - that's the story they wanted out. But party leaders and other influential figures, including two former presidents, will likely get their way. Money will dry up from the big fish and the political pressure will force him out of the race. Dems would be smart to go with Whitmer or Shapiro, but I think they'll go with Newsom or Harris. Would love to find out how the sausage gets made there with two products of the San Francisco political machine. I'm sure Nancy will be involved as well.

Will be interesting to see if any dark horses emerge. Would Crooked Hillary give it another shot? Everyone talks about Michelle Obama but she's been quite clear she has no interest. Though I bet Barack feels differently and would love to get back in the White House...
 
GOP Convention begins Monday 7/15. If he is going to go, it would be wise to do so just before that in order to throw off their messaging. I do see this Friday as a possibility though.
I think they need to get their own house in order because every day is critical. GOP convention IMO means very little.
I think the meeting at Camp David yesterday was a red herring. Of course his family stands behind him - that's the story they wanted out. But party leaders and other influential figures, including two former presidents, will likely get their way. Money will dry up from the big fish and the political pressure will force him out of the race. Dems would be smart to go with Whitmer or Shapiro, but I think they'll go with Newsom or Harris. Would love to find out how the sausage gets made there with two products of the San Francisco political machine. I'm sure Nancy will be involved as well.
Newsom most logical as he did well against DeSantis in the debate they had. Also has national name recognition. Newsom assures Harris won’t be ticket. They will pay her to go away.
Will be interesting to see if any dark horses emerge. Would Crooked Hillary give it another shot? Everyone talks about Michelle Obama but she's been quite clear she has no interest. Though I bet Barack feels differently and would love to get back in the White House...
Everyone still hates Hillary and she’s more miserable that she was eight years ago. Barack would be intriguing but does he want to jump back in and potentially risk his legacy? Michell….lol. So if I need open heart surgery do I have the credentialed cardiac surgeon do it or trust his stay at home wife to do it.
 
I think they need to get their own house in order because every day is critical. GOP convention IMO means very little.

Newsom most logical as he did well against DeSantis in the debate they had. Also has national name recognition. Newsom assures Harris won’t be ticket. They will pay her to go away.

Everyone still hates Hillary and she’s more miserable that she was eight years ago. Barack would be intriguing but does he want to jump back in and potentially risk his legacy? Michell….lol. So if I need open heart surgery do I have the credentialed cardiac surgeon do it or trust his stay at home wife to do it.

Barack wouldn't risk his legacy at all. He'd be running the show in the background as First Gentleman.
 
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