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Brookings piece 2000
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A Surplus, If We Can Keep It: How the Federal Budget Surplus Happened
Brookings Review article by Allen Schick (Winter 2000)
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Elon Musk’s DOGE Posts Classified Data On Its New Website
“People are scrambling” to see if their sensitive information has been accessed by Musk’s programmers, said one federal intelligence employee.
You and I don’t have total visibility into what’s actually happening. It’s anecdotal but I have a friend whose son works for the FAA. Received the letter but was told he was essential and would not be eligible. Another friend whose sister works at the navy shipyard in DC and was going to retire this year. She is taking the package. And if you haven’t noticed the deficit has skyrocketed so there is an urgency to address it.
They hated him but he obviously got GOP support. How?
Look at the last four years. All Biden did was spend money. Did nothing to address the deficit and Kamala said let’s not change anything.
Trump's 4 year he exploded the deficit. Did he not? And even under the Republican's budgetary plan, the deficit will increase another 4 trillion. Please do not tell me you believe Trump is going to do nothing but increase the national debt.
Yes, the deficit exploded during Trump 1.0 and Biden, primarily because of the pandemic. Did you forget that? I have no idea what he is going to do and what he is going to accomplish. Everything we are talking about here is what he’s doing and why he’s doing it. I’ve said repeatedly that he and Republicans are on the clock.
I don't recall seeing you crying when Biden was told by the Supreme Court that he didn't have the authority to forgive student loans and he continued to do it anyway. If your team isn't the one breaking the rules I guess its ok then?
He increased the debt before the pandemic. The debt during his 4 years increased by 8 trillion dollars. Less than half was due to the pandemic. About $3.6 trillion of that was due to the pandemic and this was during a time of good economic times with low unemployment. A time when the deficit should have been reduced.
You have no idea what he is going to do this time??? Did you see the budget pro prof the Republicans? Another 4 trillion in debt.
If you’re this upset, find a better candidate in 2028. I’m not going to predict the outcome of his four years. I hope he’s successful as I would hope for any President.
This is a focus group of eleven people, all were selected because they swung from Biden to Trump. Am I supposed to be surprised that most of them came to this conclusion?
The authors helpfully point out that this is "...not a statistically significant sample like a poll."
Yeah, can't a guy do some sieg heils without people concluding he's a Nazi? What's the world coming to?
I think we all know what a focus group is….
I guess Obama and Biden were Nazi lovers too?
That’s a cop out that you don’t know what the outcome will be. He has already told you that the debt will be going up.
Tariffs will bring inflation to the country. He is trying to end the war to get OPEC to produce more oil to get gas prices down. Ukraine will be sacrificed to get more oil production out of OPEC. He is ruining our relations with our allies in Europe and is looking to break NATO.
What is there to predict? He is telling you.
Meanwhile, the masses are doing cartwheels over DOGE because they are firing people and closing down agencies.
In 2028, there will be a much better candidate. Shapiro, Mark Kelly, Andy Beshear and Newsome ( dem Billionaire Mark Cuban) will all be very formidable candidates.
Not statistically significant, but I’d bet a a significant sample would be very similar.
Many of them voted for a “shakeup” and they are getting that. It will take some time before we know how the shakeup is impacting people.
I haven’t seen much from the administration that will actually help everyday Americans, so I’d guess buyers remorse will show up over time if all of his accomplishments are cuts to spending and tax cuts. Will take time though.
Come on… You know the difference between raising a hand to the right and a nazi salute, as does Musk. He knew what he was doing.
Wasn’t my point….Obama and Biden welcomed Musk’s support when he was on their side. Can’t have it both ways.
Exactly…right now it’s all about understanding what he’s doing and why. No one can predict how things will shake out in 2-4 years. Most people care about 1) can they provide for themselves and their family and 2) safety of their family. It’s a combination of statistics and feel.
The budget process will be a good test. How comprehensive will the immigration/border bill be? At the same time, what happens in the Middle East, Ukraine/Russia and China.
DOGE has been a fascinating study….identifying government waste every day and then publishing it on a platform (X), without having the MSM control the narrative. There has been a steady flow of information and no immediate end in sight. Now you see cabinet members re-posting the waste examples. 75,000 RIF is material too.
We can’t see that he did a Nazi salute because Obama embraced him?
No one called him a Nazi until he did a Nazi salute.
I like Musk as a visionary and his understanding of where humanity is going but I dislike the version of him that has embraced being a troll and vengeance against those who may have slighted him.
Musk has always been a troll of sorts on social media. So many examples of it over the years, which would piss off his investors. It’s not new….just in a bigger stage now and a media target.
Flow of information, much of which has been wrong or misleading is not a good thing.
A reduction in force may be a good thing as far as government spending, but that doesn’t really help everyday Americans, and if those cuts get large enough, it will be the opposite where it starts to hurt the economy.
I almost think that’s the plan. Flood X with non-stop waste, some of which is inaccurate. People pick and choose what is “outrageous” to them personally.
It is an example of Trump following through on what he ran on. The is tons of waste and fraud in government and it aggravates the average America. Also not a lot of sympathy for government workers in general. It won’t have an immediate impact on everyday Americans but if the streamlining continues it will be a good thing. The Congressional hearing this week on DOGE was a good example of how much waste/fraud we could be talking about.
He tweeted out misleading information which impacted the price of TSLA shares, and then trolled the SEC about it and he is currently tweeting more in a day than he used to tweet in a month, so it's not just a bigger state and being a target - It is that his trolling has increased significantly and his behavior erratic.
People want someone to blame. When people assume the bloated size of the government as something that is hurting them, they will assume that reducing the size of the government will benefit them. Eventually the realization will occur that less people working for the government will not help the rest of the country at all, and has far more potential for the opposite depending on the size of the cuts.
I would disagree on that…two separate issues.
Someone who plays by the rules while others get away with “cutting in line”, are unhappy and want those in charge to address the issues: Illegal immigrants, government agencies that spend money foolishly with no accountability, policies that favor the criminal over the victim, government employees that continue to be completely remote….etc. They just want life to be fair.
Affordability is a separate issue and is more complex since so many things enter the equation that effect how the public feels. Cutting 200-300,000 federal workers is not going to have a material impact on what a consumer pays/feels, even if it’s the right thing.
You have a friend for every situation. it's uncanny how many relevant people you know.
Exactly. They feel slighted. They feel someone is getting something they are not and will always feel that way if they are not happy regardless of how much the government is spending.
You give them someone to blame and they are happy to blame them. They will eventually realize that a bloated government is not the cause of their unhappiness and if we had the leanest government in the world, they would somehow be better off but that's just not true.
Not talking about affordability. I'm talking about the overall impact to the economy.
Hundreds of thousands of jobs disappearing rapidly plus a federal hiring freeze is going to negatively impact the overall economy.
Disagree for the same reason as before. If you address lawlessness and waste, average Americans will feel that it’s a level playing field. It will make them feel better about government and that someone’s listening.
Read something this week on Axios that said it would be more of a “blip” for a couple of months. Some of those will retire early or move to private sector.
Good, then you know that it's not particularly valuable. But yes, this focus group of eleven people means just as much as actual polling because it supports your narrative.
I consider Biden and Obama to both be pretty soulless as politicians (and people, too, probably). So no, it doesn't surprise me that they would accept the support of a very rich person when it's convenient.
What are you talking about? Biden absolutely accepted this ruling. He canceled student loans through other existing programs. He did not continue with his original plan to cancel up to $20K per borrower under the HEROES Act because the Supreme Court said the Biden admin overstepped its authority.
The Biden DOE also accepted a federal court's ruling to prevent the implementation of the Biden admin's SAVE income-driven repayment plan. Because of the court's injunction, and the DOE's acceptance of the injunction, borrowers who switched to this plan have been in general forbearance for months with no end in sight.
This is very easy stuff to look up. You guys really have to stop taking this freak at his word, he either doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, or he's deliberately misleading.
